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Can anyone help trying to find out about the history around Whalley Road, Accrington (near the Oaklea). Does anyone know when the houses were built? What was there before the houses were built? It seems I've got myself a friend who insists on knocking on the wall every morining at around 4am. Any information anyone can give me would really be appreciated, been doing a bit of research myself but to no avail so far.
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Sorry can't help you, but that friend sounds a bit spooky. Good luck.

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Just a bit, left tape recorder running last night from 2.30am picked up a noise at the end of the tape, you can hear movement then a door moving just as the tape ends typical. Was hoping to hear mice!

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Hi Vicks,

Very interesting relationship you have here, any chance of you providing a bit more detail? How long have you been there? Did it start right away, if not when?

Describe you property, Detached, Semi or Terraced. Is the knocking wall a party wall or an external wall?

Irrespective of which what aspect is it. North, south facing etc. How close the knocking wall to trees, cables, TV Ariel/satellite dish etc?

Can you describe the sound of the knock? Is it wooden, metallic, or stony? Is it loud, soft? Is it like we would knock or is it different in any way; is there any reverberation or echo?

Is there any associated smell or physical contact, have you actually seen anything? What other phenomena occurs around you when you’re away from the property. Can I ask your religious or cultural background and have you ever been involved in the occult.

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I have moved in with my partner been there about two months, my partner works nights so he has not noticed it. However, he has sensed things in the past but dismissed it. It is a terraced end house. The wall that the knocking happens on is the adjoining bedroom wall (which is empty), there are no cables or anything on either side of the wall that could cause the knocking. I have been in the loft to check if there could be anything up there that could cause this problem. I am very sceptical and am trying to rule every possibility out. I do not practice the occult as I think this is a very dangerous practice. I am from a christian background. I have not seen anything.

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Thanks for that Vicks. Have you had a walk down the Terrace to see if there’s a Date Stone of any type, if there isn’t one look at the next terrace along and across the road they won’t be necessary be of the same date but looking at the architecture if might give some idea has to the period your was built.

You didn’t describe the knocking, in relation to the wall is low down the wall, middle or higher up, is it close to a neighbouring property or more to an internal wall? What is the knocking sound like (not that daft a question?) any noticeable smells around at the time?

How close are you to the Oak lea pub or any other pub, and on which side of the street?

Just to be sure check with the neighbours and establish that they aren’t knocking up a loved one for work and to establish if they have any experiences.

If you’re brave enough, converse. They might not necessarily be there for you are even interested in you. But common courtesy won’t go amiss. Talk to them in a welcoming manner and treat them as part of the family. It could be a recording of a long past activity, a visitation or then again it could be someone close just paying you a visit.

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How close are you to the Oak lea pub or any other pub, and on which side of the street?

That just sounds like Doug is looking for somewhere to stop on Saturday night! lol

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Ooh vicks, maybe its someone wanting to keep you company whilst your fellas on nights ;)

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Maybe lol. the knocking is from the spare bedroom next to where I sleep the knocking is in the middle of the wall. The wall that the knocking appears on is an internal wall adjoined to our spare room. It is not adjoining next door. I live just around the corner from Oaklea. I am going to ask our next door neighbour if they have heard anything or know anything. I have only noticed it lately, although I did put it down to paranoir at first, the banging appears to happen when I close the bedroom door. If the door is open then I do feel a presence in the room but just ignore it. Then it seems to pass.

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The shutting of the door may be symbolic of cutting off contact; the knocking would then represent an alert to his or her presence. I would suggest that the presence wants to be known to you and wishes you to extend a welcome. Leaving the door open represents an invitation to enter your private space, “that’s in the physical sense not the spiritual” if you close the door the meaning would be the same to them as it is to us. ****** off “I vant to ve alone”. Sorry.

If you are comfortable with it, shut the door tonight and say out loud “When you ask me to, I will open it” If you get the knocking again Say out loud “ok I’ll open the door your welcome to come in, should you wish” again converse using normal tones and always be welcoming. Ask questions in order to gain information such as a name or a relationship or just chat away about how you feel about things in general.

If you do become emotional, even tearful then it will mostly likely be that of a loved ones spirit coming close to you. You might not miserly know them, but they will be someone who cares about you.

If at any time you feel unhappy with the situation just ask firmly, but respectfully for the presence to leave you now.

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You 'aint half going to look a pratt Doug if it turns out to be the plumbing ...:D

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Just presumed you may have volunteered to ghost hunt with the young lady Doug .. :D

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Ahhh, Well Kate, you see that’s what happens when you participate in gossip, how wrong could you be? I think the young lady ask for some help as to the local history of the area in which she lives and perhaps a little advise as too her new friend.

That’s all that’s being offered. These things can be a little daunting, if not frightening. I think people being able to talk about these things is terribly important particularly if you’re going through an experience like this alone, the disappointing side to these type of open discussions is when people are ridiculed or the subject is gutterised, that’s when people stop talking and end up dealing with these situations alone, unnecessarily.

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Is this your way of making me feel reeeeally bad Doug ?? Seems you may have double standards yerself a little as you sometimes are the main culprit of turning a serious thread into one big laugh.

It was bound to attract some sort of opposite response as lots of people on here do not believe in such 'hauntings' and your explanations and help do seem a little extreme and mirthful, and scare her more really. Anyway, I think it will turn out to be something completely innocent .. :kiss: and make up then ?

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Here we go………Interesting comments Kate; yes I’d agree with you that many so called serious posts get trashed, and yes I’m often involved, but by the same turn of the page those same posts often aren’t of significant content. Most people take many posts with a pinch of salt and like many people say on here, much of isn’t real life; flirting and **** taking are part of the make up

However, I’d like to think that serious issues are respected and contributions are made in good faith. I think sometimes it is nice to be able to respond to someone’s requests without fear of counter criticism. This is a particular subject that I’m close to and something I respect and have lived through the extremes of.

Just because you don’t believe, doesn’t mean that others shouldn’t offer assistance, I’m sure if Vicks are anyone else didn’t want the advice are help that wouldn’t have posted, and I’m sure if they decided they didn’t want to receive contributions from a particular member they could always add one to there ignore list.

In regards to making you feel bad? Have I? Maybe I was just responding in the same vain as you where.

Kiss and make up? Kiss my arse.

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Thanks for the support Doug it is appreciated. Our friend seems to be growing in confidence, it started with things only happening at night. But yesterday my partner could not sleep during the day he could hear noises in the room and said someone was pressing down on the bed. My partner is becoming quite upset with the situation, although I am alot more open minded and am not too scared of the situation. I am more interested in getting to the bottom of the problem and hopefully sleeping the full night again without anyone waking me. I am contemplating going and speaking to the local vicar to see if he can offer any insight in to the situation or see if he knows more about what it is that I am dealing with.

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You’re welcome. I can sympathise with your partner, this something that happened to me many years ago when I was going through a divorce and financial stress. For me it turned out to be a very close relative coming forward to give comfort and support (this I only found out in October this year, 20 years after the event). It scared the **** out of me at the time until I accepted it and spoke openly to my visitor.

The problem is that we don’t always realise that these situations are nothing to fear; often it’s our fear of fear that causes the harm.

The Vicar should be able to offer some help and comfort, so could the Spiritualise Church, Don’t be fooled by good intentioned people offering to come and excise your friend, it doesn’t work like that, a simple blessing would remedy most situations, but ask yourself if you want to send your visitor away.

The best way of dealing with these issues is to talk openly to it, Use normal tones and explain your feelings and fears. You might find that adjustments and accommodations being made. Tell your partner there’s more to be concerned about in this world than that of the next.

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doug no jokes but have heard lots of stories similAr to yours. appparently there was once a market there and some people can still hear the hustle and bustle of the market, horses and the lot

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Very Interesting thread guys..........keep us posted Vicks

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as any1 sin any ghostly sightings around hawksworth rd??

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I grew up around that area. I lived there nearly 12 years. Can't say I ever noticed anything strange! but my mum and dads bedroom used to scare the living day lights out of me!! and I would never go in there on my own :o

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av u herd anything in the house or bedrooms??

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I haven't seen anything in the houses!! just bad feelings. But that's when I was a kid. My mum was brought up around there too!! and she had a spooky experience or two in the bedroom where she lived.

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:banlama: :Banane42: :Banane09: :D

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hi vicks i used to live on east creasant just around the corner from u i had a couple of things that happened there first of all my then partner now ex was playing his ps 1 1 nite then when i walked in the livingroom wich is were he was his ps1 just wouldnt work and when he checked the back of the telly nothin was plugged in iv allso had things go flying around the room there was another time when i had some freinds staying the nite there i was in bed it was freezing the heating was on full and just as my freind walked in through the back door he said he felt a strong cold draft go past him but allso as he walked in i suddenly got warm iv had allsorts of things happen in that house

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It's weird you say that Carl......as I mentioned my mum grew up around there, and had odd things happen to her as a child. I didn't mention that this was on west crescent. I lived on Ribblesdale Avenue when I felt un-easy about the dreaded bedroom that still makes me shudder just thinking about it. Also Tinks Lived on west crescent when she left home, and she hated a certain bedroom in her house and had uneasy feelings. So it's weird that quite a few of us have had different dealings in the same area. Wonder if there are any more people out there that live/lived in that area that have a tale to tell.

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there are quite a few ppl who here and sea things on there some just try to think its something else and others believe the same as me wich is hauntings i found a site wich tells u about that area and it comes up with something to do with apple trees ill c if i can find the link and ill post it

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k just found the link out for u

http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/la...e/lancdata.php

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Hi Carl I've had a look at your link sounds a bit weird, wonder if anyone actually witnessed this that still lives in the area? I do think it is weird that there have been other people who have sensed, heard or seen things in the same area. Very strange, as much as I am a sceptic and have looked for every explanination that is possible from having an animal stuck in the house some where, to a window being open. Having left the tape on overnight and unable to give any reasonable explanation for the strange noises, I do except that the strange happenings or caused by something or someone else. Although it does seem strange that is only recently things have started to happen it is still unnearthing, not only that but the whole atmosphere in the house has changed. :eek:

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it did the same with me and i got fed up with it as i couldnt sleep so i told it to stop it well that it did but after a couple of days thats when my pictures came flying at me and the rest

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I did hate that back bedroom. It often smelt of a perfume that I couldn't place, it was a perfume I'd probably associate with an elderly lady. I can't say it was a bad feeling, it just felt like someone was in there with me. It was the only room in the house I felt uncomfortable in. The room never bothered the kids when they were sleeping in there though.

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Don’t antagonise it. Respect applies to both sides of the vale and lets face it your on the weaker side of the fence. If you can’t communicate respectful, ignore what’s there.

There is a difference between spiritual presences, haunting and poltergeist activity if there’s a spiritual presence of a form friend or relative that wishes to communicate with you or your partner and you miss out on that opportunity because you buggered about, then more fool you.

If you have a spirit person in visitation then most likely once it’s made itself known it will come and go without interference with this world. It will be interested in the house not you. Knockings maybe simply a result of reliving events of an earlier time, all you need do is ask politely and respectfully for it to stop.

If you have poltergeist activity it maybe a simple case of an adolescent connected to the home, you or your partner burning off energy. If however, it is an elemental spirit or a negative human presence then you’d be better keeping to a respectful approach and seek help of someone qualified to deal with its removal.

Do not watch an episode of Most Haunted and think you can go dictating terms, marking demands or go mocking and challenging the presence. If you chose to do so then you might well get the biggest surprise of you life, and believe me it will take some time to get over it.

Show respect regardless of what you’ve got, even if it turns out to be nothing a positive atmosphere will always act as a barrier against negativity and improve your home.

Finally, the mind is a powerful tool but can easily be damaged or weakened unless you are mentally strong enough to deal with these matters. In all these matters we are born ignorant for a purpose.

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We've been living in the Oaklea for just over a week now, & have had a couple of strange experiences. These seem to all be about items being taken. When we were moving in i had all the screws & pins for our bed in a small clear plastic bag, which i placed on a cupboard in the bedroom for safe keeping. The following day when i was about to re-construct the bed, i couldn't find the bag. We moved every item of furniture in the room whilst trying to find them. I was getting quite frustrated so i asked (aloud) for them back. Two days later the bag appeared on the staircase at the opposite end of the building. We had walked up & down the stairs countless times & would have seen them if they had been simply dropped by mistake.

We also had a set of keys that went missing around the same time. The keys were also on the same cupboard as the screws. These turned up in my old house. At first i thought that i'd dropped them during the removal process. However, i realised that the last time i was in my old house was on the Wednesday, & i didn't receive the keys until Thursday.

This morning i went downstairs to let the cleaner in & noticed that there was a pen in the middle of the floor behind the bar. I know that this wasn't there last night, as the floor was swept & mopped after we closed. The pen couldn't have rolled off the bar because they are kept at the back of the bar, & also the pen has a retractable clip on it which is about the size of a 50 pence piece & is flat.

All three items have two things in common.............

1. They are all shiney (metalic).

2. They have all been handled by myself.

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accyjay things like that happened to me then the front door kept opening when it was locked wich i allways double check that then things started braking and so on ect ect so i kno how u feel with that annoying isnt it lol

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OOps it's started then Accyjay :( My mum used to work in the oaklea ( when it was the marlbrough ............ that place is haunted!!! the upstairs that is now the function room used to be a spare room!! and when I was a kid me and a mate used to doss up there playing table tennis!! it was always very eerie and in the end we stopped going up there because it was very scary. Some of the tales my mum used to tell me still make my hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Apparently it's a lady haunting........and you may be able to understand when I say " getting the smell of bacon " whaffting through the place at odd times of the day..... just watch out for it, you'll know what I mean when it happens. Also very strong smells of PIPE smoke when no-one else is about.

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That, I can confirm. I've smelt it myself in the Marlborough

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Oh dear Accyjay no surprise, besides we thought after the alterations that would awaken a few ghostly spirits making themselves known:D

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This morning when i went downstairs there was a small pool of water in exactly the same place as where the pen was the other day.

Last night Kate asked me to check the function room, because she thought that she saw somebody sat in the corner. When i checked, there was nobody there.

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I know, we'd be better off with Windy Rindy. No mediums would be the order of the night me think's. I rather see for myself than be told by a medium that their's a ghost of an old woman piddling on the floor.

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i reckon if you look far enough back in the history books you might find that that area was maybe once some sort of burial ground....thats what i reckon anyway, just a thought :)

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If there is then it must pre date the OS maps of the area. I don't know if the old house had it's brurial Ground or not but they may have been some kind of mound where the Oaklea now stands, two points of interest is the sub station if it's still there and the possiblity of the Oaklea being built over running water.

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i seem to always end up working in places people think are haunted!! the old Apollo cinema in Blackburn and now the Oaklea! worked there since its re-opening and i haven't seen/heard/felt anything ghostly, but saying that i don't believe in anything paranormal one bit

but will keep my eyes peeled!!! :D hahahahah

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In the event of Accyjay accepting an offer of a friendly investigation, I take it that you are volunteering your services Mr Timmins, you being a non believer an all would make an interesting contribution to the sitting.

One point, in the interest of security, once you are in someone else’s property there’s no running away in the middle of the night……… :D

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I'm sure they said it was a ghost from when the property was residential. I wish I could remember the stories but it's so long ago, I'd hate to be incorrect.

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First I've heard of this, do you still get visits?

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Yeah Jay?? have you had anything else??

You really should do a Investigation like has been said!! would be great to see what comes of it!

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A few scared girlies running down Whalley Road at 4 in the morning, but I agree about the investigation. :)

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LOL well I will volunteer to do the sitting, and I wouldn't be running down Whalley Road scared either lol


Would be better to get a few believers and a few non believers to even things out a bit!:D

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I’d say no more than six people, all volunteers, all sober. You can then go two groups of three or three groups of two; covering all floors, no one goes anywhere alone that way any sightings are potentially collaborated. Take digital kit, voice records, cameras, video etc and run test objects in secured areas. I’d try and get a medium involved and a history researcher to look over the property and the sites history. A presence may not necessarily come with the current building. Oh and you don’t need a ghost to be scared ****less. Just spend a night with me….:D

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You know we should set our own ACCY WEB ghost busting team up!!! :D

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Very interesting, keep us informed of future progress.

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I have just joined the forum and I am catching up on old articles.
This thread is like a novel with last few pages missing.

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I have only been on this forum for 18 months and so I haven't seen it before.
AccyJay doesn't come on much now - busy running the pub I suppose.

There is one snippet of info that I can add to this -
In the late 1940s my brother had a TB gland in his neck and went for 'sun ray' treatment at that building which later became the Marlborough Club. It was an early NHS clinic then.

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If someone could call in the pub and ask about it, I am interested in the outcome.
Show your spouse this thread if they ask why you are going out.
It would be rude to go in and not have a drink, wouldn't it.

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I found this thread interesting. Has anything else happened?

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well i shall be in sunday afternoon wi wynonie n yonmon, so if theres spooks about we will kick ass.:D