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Retlaw 05-03-2008 22:50

War Memorials
 
For the past few years I have been researching all the World War Soldiers, in what was then known as Greater Accrington, now called Hyndburn.

As the work has progressed, it has shown that there are 161 names missing from the local war memorials.

87 from Accrington
8 from Church
4 from Clayton
13 from Gt Harwood
2 from Huncote
37 from Oswaldtwistle's R-O-H.
10 from Rishton.
Accrington's Memorial has also the greatest number of mistakes, amongst these clangers besides spelling mistakes, five men are listed twice.

Retlaw.

garinda 05-03-2008 22:58

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That's shocking, and very sad.

I do know that plans are underway for Oswaldtwistle's war memorial to include the names of those members of the armed services killed in World War II, Korea, and all subsequent wars, thanks to Roy and Jean Lockwood.

Perhaps those earlier omissions and mistakes could also be rectified at the same time?

claytonender 05-03-2008 23:22

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My mother's cousin (who was killed on 30 October 1916 whilst serving with the Canadian forces) is wrongly recorded on Accrington War Memorial. His Name was Harry Scambler - he was born in Church on 29 December 1893 and he emigrated to Canada with his parents.

Search Details - Veterans Affairs Canada
These are his enlistment forms

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/080767a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/080767b.gif

jaysay 06-03-2008 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 541329)
That's shocking, and very sad.

I do know that plans are underway for Oswaldtwistle's war memorial to include the names of those members of the armed services killed in World War II, Korea, and all subsequent wars, thanks to Roy and Jean Lockwood.

Perhaps those earlier omissions and mistakes could also be rectified at the same time?

I'm sure Roy and Jean would help with this, their phone number is 01254 394226

Retlaw 06-03-2008 11:05

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I know of the Oswaldtwistle project, I have 422 names and 165 pictures in my Ossy file for World War I. I doubt if people of other towns would want their relatives on other War Memorials.
Some time ago someone was agitating about Gt Harwoods War Memorial, some of the metal letters are missing, but the local Tzar started moaning about money.

Retlaw.

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 541329)
That's shocking, and very sad.

I do know that plans are underway for Oswaldtwistle's war memorial to include the names of those members of the armed services killed in World War II, Korea, and all subsequent wars, thanks to Roy and Jean Lockwood.

Perhaps those earlier omissions and mistakes could also be rectified at the same time?


garinda 06-03-2008 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 541453)
I know of the Oswaldtwistle project, I have 422 names and 165 pictures in my Ossy file for World War I. I doubt if people of other towns would want their relatives on other War Memorials.
Some time ago someone was agitating about Gt Harwoods War Memorial, some of the metal letters are missing, but the local Tzar started moaning about money.

Retlaw.

I wasn't suggesting that all the missing names be added to Oswaldtwistle's memorial, just the relevant ones.

garinda 20-01-2010 18:01

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Photographs of Accrington's War Memorial, and information about the sculptor Herbert Tyson Smith.

Herbert Tyson Smith (1883-1972), Sculptor - Your Archives

DaveinGermany 20-01-2010 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 541453)
I know of the Oswaldtwistle project, I have 422 names and 165 pictures in my Ossy file for World War I. I doubt if people of other towns would want their relatives on other War Memorials.
Some time ago someone was agitating about Gt Harwoods War Memorial, some of the metal letters are missing, but the local Tzar started moaning about money.

Retlaw.

Bitching over a few bob for letters is pitiful! what price to the families who lost loved ones, haven't they paid up front ? the local council should be ashamed & falling over their miserable petty little selves to put it right!!

Bob Dobson 20-01-2010 19:52

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Clearly the corporation employed a man they believed to be the top man in the country to design and execute the memorial. All credit to Garinda for posting this.

garinda 20-01-2010 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 780415)
Clearly the corporation employed a man they believed to be the top man in the country to design and execute the memorial. All credit to Garinda for posting this.

I don't know the costs, because most of the old Urban Council's records aren't easily accessible, but I know Oswaldtwistle's War Memorial was funded by public subscription, paid for by the townsfolk, and I presume Accrington's was the same, along with many others throughout the country.

There's no denying, that as well as being fitting tributes to aid rememberance, some are truly exquisite works of art in their own right, and as you say, that's due in no small part to the calibre of sculptors who were commissioned to work on them.

Atarah 20-01-2010 23:29

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Thanks again Garinda for supplying some "first class" information.
Atarah

garinda 21-01-2010 00:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 780492)
Thanks again Garinda for supplying some "first class" information.
Atarah


My pleasure. I'm enjoying researching the subject.

It's a miniscule amount of information, when compared to what yourself, Bob, and Retlaw have done, and continue to do.

I think any achievements connected to the area are worth recording, so I shall continue my late night delving, especially into Accrington's art history.

garinda 21-01-2010 02:46

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Cassidy, John, R. B. S. (1860 - 1939)
Public war memorials are in several English towns, including Skipton, Clayton-le-Moors, Stourbridge and Heaton Moor, now in Greater Manchester. The commission for Skipton was to execute and erect the memorial for a cost not exceeding £3,000.
John Cassidy - Sculptor

John Cassidy - Sculptor

garinda 31-01-2010 23:12

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Same site, but a better photograph, and information, about the War Memorial at Clayton-le-Moors.

John Cassidy - Sculptor - Clayton-le-Moors War Memorial

Retlaw 31-01-2010 23:46

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 784202)
Same site, but a better photograph, and information, about the War Memorial at Clayton-le-Moors.

John Cassidy - Sculptor - Clayton-le-Moors War Memorial

Garinda.
A picture and explanation of the memorial from the Accy observer in 1919.


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