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Mrs B 13-02-2009 20:15

Primitive Methodist Chapel, Accrington
 
I wondered if anyone could tell me where this is/was?

I am looking for the Chapel that would have been in existence in 1871.

I am wondering if it was the one that was demolished/replaced on Whalley Road - but I could very well be wrong.

Any information/link to picture would be interesting.

churchman phil 13-02-2009 20:50

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Any name? Whalley road is a long one!!

Mrs B 13-02-2009 21:32

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No - 'cause my guess at Whalley Road is just that.

I just assumed there couldn't have been that many Primitive Methodist Chapels in Accrington.

But perhaps I should know better - in our village there were three Methodist Chapels (only one Prim though).

cashman 14-02-2009 00:14

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memory aint that good mrsb but i think it was the one on Whalley Rd were the vets is now, was at the top of the pleck,ollets butcher was across the street on the corner.:) someone will correct if that aint right,i'm near sure.

Mrs B 14-02-2009 06:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 679696)
memory aint that good mrsb

And there was me thinking there'd be one or two 150 year old Lancastrians on here, still going strong.












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ossy kid 14-02-2009 06:22

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Olletts butchers, there,s a name from the past Cash. Did you know Walter? He was a mate of mine from way back. Mrs B here,s a bit of info on Accy churches
www.lan-opc.org.uk/accrington

Mrs B 14-02-2009 06:44

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Thanks Ossy Kid.

The linky you put in took me to an invalid file, but I think I tracked the information down - which confirms Whalley Road.

Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerk Project -

Looks like a good place for more historical information for me too.

jaysay 14-02-2009 09:59

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Originally Posted by Mrs B (Post 679727)
And there was me thinking there'd be one or two 150 year old Lancastrians on here, still going strong.











(You may or may not become accustomed to my sense of humour!)

There are but we just won't admit it:D

cashman 14-02-2009 11:15

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Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 679729)
Olletts butchers, there,s a name from the past Cash. Did you know Walter? He was a mate of mine from way back. Mrs B here,s a bit of info on Accy churches
www.lan-opc.org.uk/accrington

yeh ossykid, his daughter kathleen,a very nice lass was in my class at st.johns, never saw her again when i left fer the tech, ya don't know what became of her do you?:)

Retlaw 14-02-2009 11:33

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Primitive Methodist Chapels
Just had a look thro my list of WW1 soldiers.
in A's there were 3
Primitive Methodists Oswaldtwistle.
Primitive Methodists Whalley Rd Accrington
Primitive Methodists Higher Antley.

Retlaw.

ossy kid 14-02-2009 15:24

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Don,t know a Kathleen Cash but I knew Dorothy but lost touch when we moved. I see Walt when we,re over, he lives up Stanhill.

ossylass 14-02-2009 19:57

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I remember being connected with the Whalley Road Methodist Youth Club and Amateur dramatic society back in the late'50s early 60's and both were well-attended.

cashman 14-02-2009 21:08

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Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 680164)
I remember being connected with the Whalley Road Methodist Youth Club and Amateur dramatic society back in the late'50s early 60's and both were well-attended.

our paths musta crossed then, i went yon wi david whitely from the sweet shop on whalley rd.:)

ossylass 14-02-2009 22:47

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I remember David Whiteley, tall, good-looking lad, think we were in one or two plays together, but 40 odd years is stretching my memory!

cashman 14-02-2009 22:54

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Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 680261)
I remember David Whiteley, tall, good-looking lad, think we were in one or two plays together, but 40 odd years is stretching my memory!

don't i know it.:D

Mrs B 15-02-2009 20:52

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Well I've certainly learnt more than I bargained for in starting this thread ......... :D

And there was me thinking that it was a pretty boring question.

I'll have to start thinking about what question to ask next ........... and what I might find out as a result!

cashman 15-02-2009 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs B (Post 680629)
Well I've certainly learnt more than I bargained for in starting this thread ......... :D

And there was me thinking that it was a pretty boring question.

I'll have to start thinking about what question to ask next ........... and what I might find out as a result!

hey always remember,whats boring to some,is interesting to others, ask whatever Mrs B, plenty on here will try n help.:)

Bob Dobson 16-02-2009 20:41

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When Union St methodis Chapel was closed down in the late 50s/early 60s, the congregation, or a lot of them, moved to Whalley Rd. By this time the various divisions within the Methodist Church, such as Wesleyans, Primitives, must have unified.
I recall the name of Jimmy Ollet. He lived in Castle St I think. Went to St John's School.will be 70yrs now. A big fat lad.

ossy kid 17-02-2009 01:06

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Not sure about this Bob but I remember Jimmy Ollett, if it,s the same person I,m thinking about didn,t he work at the gas board showrooms on St James St? I THINK I remember his obit quite a few years back, BUT I could be wrong.

ossy kid 17-02-2009 01:58

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Forget the previous one Bob, memory returned. I did know Jimmy Ollett but it wasn,t him who worked at the gas board or his obit. Sorry about that, also to Jimmy if you see this.

Atarah 18-02-2009 03:21

Primitive Methodist Chapel, Accrington
 
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Hi photo here for you all to see.

Atarah

Mrs B 18-02-2009 12:06

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I'm ever so slightly confused (but you have to remember I'm not a native).

The photograph looks more like a Weslyan Chapel than a Primitive one - certainly the Primitive ones where I grew up and around this County are quite distinctively plain, small and well, they just say "Primitive Methodist".

This looks more like a Weslyan ..........................

I am now going to :hidewall:

garinda 18-02-2009 13:40

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Originally Posted by Mrs B (Post 681808)
I'm ever so slightly confused (but you have to remember I'm not a native).

The photograph looks more like a Weslyan Chapel than a Primitive one - certainly the Primitive ones where I grew up and around this County are quite distinctively plain, small and well, they just say "Primitive Methodist".

This looks more like a Weslyan ..........................

I am now going to :hidewall:

I agree. I wouldn't have guessed that it was a Primitive Methodist Chapel. It looks more like an Anglian church to me, especially the neo-Gothic window, and shows no sign of the usual simpler architecture normally seen.

:confused:

garinda 18-02-2009 13:47

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'Methodism was introduced a century ago and the Wesleyans built a chapel in Union Street in 1807, replaced by the present church in 1845. An additional one was opened in 1866 and more recently others at Antley and Baxenden; there are also three school-chapels and a mission room. The Primitive Methodists built a chapel about 1828 and it was rebuilt in 1894; they have also another, and the United Free Methodists have one also.'

Townships - Old and New Accrington | British History Online

garinda 18-02-2009 13:50

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The reason it's style of architecture is so different from the norm might be because it was built in 1894, and most other Chapels were constructed earlier (?)

cashman 18-02-2009 15:02

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its certainly the church,remember it well, great photo atarah:)

Mrs B 01-03-2009 10:59

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I was thinking I'd killed this thread and it was time for another inane question.

However, I realise there's something else bugging me slightly about this.

Accordingly to the Lancashire On Line Parish Information, the Primitive Methodist Chapel, Whalley Road was built in 1859 - so why was it necessary to build another one one on Whalley Road in 1894? I presume it replaced the first one, but 35 years wasn't long for a Chapel to be around?

Any thoughts?

Atarah 02-03-2009 06:20

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Hi, will solve this puzzle if its the last thing I do! :-)
trying to remember what I have been told. Was this the church which USED to be on the site across from Barbara Kays shoe shop in Whalley Road, Accrington. There certainly was an old church building there, which I believe was where the old Kings Hall used to be. Do you all remember a bank was eventually on the site - TSB???
will post more thoughts as they "appear in my head" tee hee

cashman 02-03-2009 08:12

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all i know about that building was from early 50s, was then the "Kings Hall" cinema, with the "Central Billiards Hall" in the cellar, later building became "LLOyds" bank. would love to know what came before all this.:confused:

Mrs B 02-03-2009 08:27

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I'm not sure whether it's great that I'm provoking the stirring of all these grey cells, or bizarre that I can just sit here on the other side of the country and just pose random questions as they appear amongst my grey cells. :D

Atarah 03-03-2009 18:54

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Hi, quoting information which our member Bob Dobson reseached for his book "An Accrington Mixture" - page 89 states - KING'S HALL, the actual date this former Methodist Chapel opened does not appear to have been recorded in the local press. All I can find is that Methodism appeared mid 1800's and that for whatever reason, a new church was built in Whalley Road in 1928. This closed in 1983, the vets being on the same site.

Retlaw 04-03-2009 21:54

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 688341)
Hi, quoting information which our member Bob Dobson reseached for his book "An Accrington Mixture" - page 89 states - KING'S HALL, the actual date this former Methodist Chapel opened does not appear to have been recorded in the local press. All I can find is that Methodism appeared mid 1800's and that for whatever reason, a new church was built in Whalley Road in 1928. This closed in 1983, the vets being on the same site.

This is the Kings Hall, aka Bugut, Flea Pit, Ranch, they showed that many westerns, they had to close once a month to pick all the lead out of the walls.

Retlaw

Dizzy Lizzy 16-03-2009 15:50

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Hi folks – interesting thread you started Mrs B!

The photo of the Primitive Methodist Chapel (c/o Atarah #21 ) looks like it is situated opposite Britcliffe Row inWhalley Road.

Take a look at the interesting link below of the Britcliffe Family history.
There is photograph which shows Britcliffe Row with the corner of the above Church wall #21 in the foreground.

THE HERBERT BRITCLIFFE MEMORIAL GENEALOGY WEBSITE

There is a later picture of Britcliffe row here:-

WHALLEY ROAD. - Accrington Gallery

Note that the Church wall is different and also there is a gas street lamp.

Perhaps the Britcliffes funded the building of one of the Chapels?

Lizzy


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