Paradise Works
 

Has anyone any information about the Paradise Works that used to be on Paradise Street C.1890's.I wondered if this was mill?
The link for the old map can be found on this LCC site.
Lancashire County Council: Environment Directorate: Old Maps

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Certainly can't help you here Lampman, but the maps are great, thanks for the link

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I believe EWBANK were based on Paradise Street before they moved to Hyndburn Road

Atarah

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hell thats come as a surprise Atarah.

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Lang Bridges had a factory on Paradise St, founded by Lang Bridge junr irca 1859. before moving to Exchange St, in 1905. When they were in Paradise St, they did a lot of work for Bulloughs. They also made wringers, iron bedsteads and such, just like Ewbank did.

Don't get upset Atarah it did'nt happen.
Retlaw.

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I noticed on the linked 1890 map, that Ewbank had a factory there.I was wondering if there had been a mill there at sometime,due to the fact that there is an underground water course running there.
I know that previously that area has had a tech.college and training school for the Bulloughs factory,but I was thinking prior to this.

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Thanks Retlaw,I will continue my research.

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http://www.ewbank.co.uk/pdfs/1896Ewbank.pdf

Thread wander...
Just found this 1896 Ewbank catalogue. Fascinating pictures, and look at the prices, lol :)

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A great find find Caz,I'm old enough to remember the Ewbank sweeper,they used to be fine until full then they would deposit the already collectd dust back on the floor!
As you say fascinating photos!
Cheers.

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1912 map of the area, there were several old mills behind where they've built the new med center.
I used to get spring steel and wrought iron from blacksmiths that was behind the old baths, on the east side of Woodnook Water.
Retlaw.
Its buggering me about tried 3 times to attach the map.

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Trying again
Retlaw.

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great find caz, noticed the ewbank telephone number= 68.:)

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Thanks for that Retlaw,I notice a sewing machine works around the area of Barnes's furniture shop/New Era site.

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Yes I saw that but never heard of any sewing machines made in Acc, on the corner where the entrance to the Ritz used to be, there was a stone just above pavement level which had Accrington Higher Bridge cut into it, it vanished when Barnes's took over, behind that and under Barnes's frontage was a little known street, Water St, that was before the present Water St, and in that area was another known as Butchers Alley.

Retlaw.

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Water Street and Higher Bridge?I think this is all linked to the now covered waterways in the area which were linked to the Bull Bridge area and the stream in the Grange Lane area.

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ya could go on expeditions up the stink from Bull Bridge n come out at Grange lane.:) under the long red brick arch that was where the old covered market was built.

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This map is a bit earlier, 1848, back in 1840 most of the waterway was open, there were several bridges, Cross St, Warner St, Blackburn Rd, Marquis St, and Bull Bridge.
Retlaw.

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Thanks again for that Retlaw,I find it interesting how the face of the town has changed over the years,could also explain the problem with damp that some of the existing buildings are having.
I came across this link for future plans for Accrington.
http://www.urbed.coop/journal_docs/A...art%202(1).pdf

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interesting link lampman, would like to see accy develop to that, aint holding me breath though.

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No neither will I!

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Pipe dreams, it'l never happen, wheres the money coming from.
There have been umpteen similar schemes in the past, what happened to them. Just look at the cockup they made of the traffic flow thro East Gate.

Retlaw.

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We have seen it all before,in the Paradise Street area the Accrington Pals Health Centre is an improvement.Nearby the regeneration of the old Barnes's furniture shop has stalled.
I can't help thinking there will be further regeneration of the areas near the Health centre.
What's the point of upgrading the site when it has adjacent boarded up buildings and run down factories?Time willtell I suppose.

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I started to write a post last week but Retlaw beat me to it. Just found this
Its Lang Bridge's Old Paradise Work's, the buildings facing the camera(?)
are (were) Barns furniture shop. If anyone is interested in 1903 Lang's
supplied a double diagonal steam engine, probably with a printing machine,
to Bollington Print Work's, near Macclesfield, this engine has now been restored
and can be seen running under steam at the Northern Mill Engines Society's
Museum in Bolton. As far as I know this is the only exsisting machine built
in Paradise Works. Someone will surely prove me wrong. A company called
Polly Model Engineering Ltd. produce a set of castings to make a model of this
engine.

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Thanks for that Tetti,amazing what changes have taken place.

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When Lang Bridge moved from Paradise Works (Church St.) to their new premises in Exchange St., the exact date I do'nt know, probably between 1902-05.They called the new works Paradise Works because they were known worldwide as Lang Bridge, Paradise Works, Accrington and wanted to continue being known as that. That left the old Church St. works with no name, so they called it the Sewing Machine Works. Why?? Was it because the last machines to be produced there were sewing machines? That's what I think.

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Know this is a bit of a digression, just wondered what you consider a cock up through Eastgate Retlaw ? I have never had any difficulty going through here both ways .. quite easy ?

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Progressive flow traffic lights, they use that method in lots of places outside Lancashire to keep the traffic flowing, the main hold up is that set of lights between Abbey St and Avenue parade, one of the local councellors who were responcible for the timing of those lights told me the timing on that set of lights was done deliberately. You want try going through at some of the busy times of the day. What makes me laugh is the number of pedestrians who press the buttons on whats known as the Netto lights, when there is no need, if you watch when there is no traffic on East Gate, those lights still go thro the same cycle. Lights on Red on East Gate, lights on green for the Netto car park, yet no one goes in or out of Netto, then onto green for pedestrians when there are none.

Retlaw.

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Originally there was only going to be two sets of traffic lights on eastgate. But at the time when eastgate was built we were told there would have to be an additional set of lights for people to cross to get to the post office.

I wasn't personally convinced at the time that an extra set of lights was needed, and I'm still not convinced.

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The use of traffic lights snarling up the flow of traffic is nothing new really, take Church Lights, at peak times there is always a Queue in all directions, the only time there is no problem is when the lights are actually broken down and the traffic is allowed to flow naturally

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Sorry again for the thread wander ... have asked re. this, hope it helps:

'He's talking about co-ordination of the signal timings so that traffic
flows along Eastgate continuously. The idea is that when one signal
goes green, the next signal goes green before the traffic has
approached the stop line so that traffic keeps flowing. Unfortunately,
it's not always that simple. In principle, if Eastgate was the
principal route with no major flows on the crossing arms, then this
would be no problem to implement. However, there are major arms that
join traffic flows on Eastgate or cross Eastgate. Burnley Road is a
major radial route into Accrington, is dedicated as a strategic bus
corridor for the 20 group of services and carries significant amounts of
traffic in the inbound peak period. In addition, Avenue Parade is
relatively busy because it is a key exit point from a major,
high-density residential area. This is why the signals cannot be
co-ordinated to give the sort of priority to Eastgate that he is
thinking.

Traffic signals are co-ordinated using two methods: fixed timing phases
or responsive timing phases. If the signals are fixed timing then the
dominant flow will be given greater priority (unless it conflicts with a
major public transport corridor). If the signals are responsive, then
they will adapt their signal timings to react with changes in the
dominant flow on each of the approach arms. The ones on Eastgate are
fixed timing but will probably have different timings depending on the
time of day (I would think that Eastgate would have priority in the
peaks on all arms except Burnley Road).

The lights at the retail park should work on a fixed series of signal
phases until the pedestrian 'calls in' the signal by pushing the button.
The pedestrian green, and subsequent traffic all red, phase should not
come on without a pedestrian 'calling in' the signal. If it is coming
on without pedestrian being at the crossing then this needs fixing. As
for people calling in the signal and walking away... annoying...
fixable... but very expensive.'

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I still think that there's one set of lights too many on Eastgate. If we only had the lights at Plantation St and at Burnley Rd the traffic would flow a lot better than it does now.

And I don't believe it would inconvenience pedestrians too much.

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And how would the buses get down to our current 'bus station' Bernard ?

Perhaps when we get the new one .. may be able to block it off then ... LOL.

(These are my comments by the way).

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I don't think it will be changed Kate anyway, irrespective of where the bus station might go.

I think people by and large have got used to the traffic lights system on Eastgate

Although when Eastgate was first built, there was a lot of opposition to three sets of traffic lights.

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I'm sure you are correct ... we are attempting to regenerate the town and residents need access to the centre ... not to be cut off by a small ring road.