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Atarah 11-08-2009 22:14

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Think I have recently read that the bus stop on Union Road, known as "The Palladium" is to have its name change to "Ossy Mills" as this is a popular venue these days. The Palladium of course no longer exists, but .. when it did, what an brilliant place it must have been.

The "cinema hall" was erected around 1920, built on the site of some old delapidated cottages on Union Road, facing the Technical School. Built to accommodate 275 folk in the balcony and seating for 1000 in the main body, just think of the stories connected with this hall.

Sketch of the cinema which appeared in the local papers in 1920.

MargaretR 11-08-2009 22:20

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I remember it as the poshest of the 3 cinemas in Ossy.
I recall many visits with my mum to see Fred Astaire musicals, and in teen years to see Rock Around the Clock, and the Elvis movies

It doesn't seem all that long ago that I played bingo there a couple of times.

cashman 11-08-2009 23:33

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will always be the palladium to owd gits like me atarah, whatever they call it.:) did a bit of courting yon wi n ossy lass early teens.:)

ossy kid 12-08-2009 05:28

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Palladium and Empire, that,s where we did most of our courting, happy days.

jaysay 12-08-2009 09:19

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Palladium, Empire and the Palace on Rhyddings Street, three cinemas in such small town, when I was little the films used to change 3 times a week at all three, Monday and Tuesday, then change Wednesday and Thursday, then Friday Saturday Sunday, whats more it was only about 5d (old pence) in the cheap seats. Bag of sweets from Makinsons on the way there, then a bag of chips at the chippy on the way home

flashy 12-08-2009 09:40

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wow has that pub been there as long as the Palladium then? looks to be the same one in Atarah's picture

wasnt it the Palladium that Winston Whittaker had?

MargaretR 12-08-2009 10:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 735642)
Palladium, Empire and the Palace on Rhyddings Street, three cinemas in such small town, when I was little the films used to change 3 times a week at all three, Monday and Tuesday, then change Wednesday and Thursday, then Friday Saturday Sunday, whats more it was only about 5d (old pence) in the cheap seats. Bag of sweets from Makinsons on the way there, then a bag of chips at the chippy on the way home

My recollection matches that but for one exception.
There was only ONE cinema in Hyndburn which operated on Sundays.
That was the Odeon - and only one evening 'house' starting at 8pm

Tealeaf 12-08-2009 10:31

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This pigeon loft is an eyesore even for Ossy. It has no architectural or historic merit and the sooner it's pulled down, the better.

cashman 12-08-2009 10:34

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 735659)
My recollection matches that but for one exception.
There was only ONE cinema in Hyndburn which operated on Sundays.
That was the Odeon - and only one evening 'house' starting at 8pm

think yer mistaken there the "Kings Hall" (Bug Hut) was open sundays, i lived just around the corner on burnley rd (now demolished) am sure i used to go yon regular on sundays.:)

MargaretR 12-08-2009 14:17

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think yer mistaken there the "Kings Hall" (Bug Hut) was open sundays, i lived just around the corner on burnley rd (now demolished) am sure i used to go yon regular on sundays.:)

That was a place I never visited.
No cinema in Ossy opened sundays, is what I should have said.
Ossy was more 'religous':rolleyes: - I recall getting disapproving looks for wearing slacks on a sunday.

I once got some nasty flea bites from the Palace in Ossy. That would have been about '54.

cashman 12-08-2009 14:55

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I once got some nasty flea bites from the Palace in Ossy. That would have been about '54.

Jeez thats a lot of bites.:D

MargaretR 12-08-2009 15:32

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Jeez thats a lot of bites.:D

Thanks for the sympathy

jaysay 12-08-2009 16:05

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 735659)
My recollection matches that but for one exception.
There was only ONE cinema in Hyndburn which operated on Sundays.
That was the Odeon - and only one evening 'house' starting at 8pm

Your right Margaret, when I think about it cinemas didn't open in Ossy, because if they had I'd have been there:D

jaysay 12-08-2009 16:10

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wow has that pub been there as long as the Palladium then? looks to be the same one in Atarah's picture

wasnt it the Palladium that Winston Whittaker had?

I think your right flashy Winston owned the Palladium and the Empire too, I think the Place was owned by a bloke called Sapereetie (don't know if that's spelt right) an Italian

MargaretR 12-08-2009 16:41

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I think your right flashy Winston owned the Palladium and the Empire too, I think the Place was owned by a bloke called Sapereetie (don't know if that's spelt right) an Italian

Mr Saporiti owned the Palace - he lived in a semi in that small area of (then new) houses bounded on 3 sides by Fielding Lane, Park Lane, and Hornby St
His lad Eric was about my age and used to play out with the Hornby St lot

jaysay 13-08-2009 09:35

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 735725)
Mr Saporiti owned the Palace - he lived in a semi in that small area of (then new) houses bounded on 3 sides by Fielding Lane, Park Lane, and Hornby St
His lad Eric was about my age and used to play out with the Hornby St lot

When were they built Margaret, I used to court a lass that lived at 21 Fielding lane and my Mums Bosses son lived next door at 19. Did Saporiti sell the Palace to another owner or was it him that sold it to Shopfitters? I know Shopfitters owned it in the early 70s and used it as a recreation centre for Table Tennis and Badminton for a while then turned it into a storage place.

MargaretR 13-08-2009 09:55

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When were they built Margaret, I used to court a lass that lived at 21 Fielding lane and my Mums Bosses son lived next door at 19. Did Saporiti sell the Palace to another owner or was it him that sold it to Shopfitters? I know Shopfitters owned it in the early 70s and used it as a recreation centre for Table Tennis and Badminton for a while then turned it into a storage place.

I wasn't in touch with Ossy news after 1961
....so I don't know

katex 13-08-2009 19:17

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Didn't realise it originally had that huge entrance canopy originally, is that why the road is now a little wider on Union Road now it is not there then ?

As an aside ... hope I am correct about this. Noticed an insolvency notice in the Observer for Vincent Whitehead. As I understand it, he bought the Palladium and the Church Commercial.

cashman 13-08-2009 19:36

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Didn't realise it originally had that huge entrance canopy originally, is that why the road is now a little wider on Union Road now it is not there then ?

As an aside ... hope I am correct about this. Noticed an insolvency notice in the Observer for Vincent Whitehead. As I understand it, he bought the Palladium and the Church Commercial.

sure hope that aint Vinnie?:confused: top geezer.:(

katex 13-08-2009 20:15

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sure hope that aint Vinnie?:confused: top geezer.:(

That's where I am not sure if is the same Vincent Whitehead Cashy .. not many around here though .. so sorry, if I have got it wrong. Is he abour 61 ?

Gayle 13-08-2009 21:06

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About two years ago my Dad phoned the number on the side to enquire if it was for sale. He was told that the owners had taken it off the market - then there were rumours that Ossy Mills had bought it but I don't think they had - the FOR SALE sign is still there and there's been no action in all this time.

Lilly 13-08-2009 21:40

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We live very near to Ossy Mills.

If I told my 8 year old son to get off the bus at the Palladium he wouldn't know what I was talking about.

He knows exactly what Ossy Mills is though.

The Palladium is obsolete now to kids.

cashman 13-08-2009 22:30

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That's where I am not sure if is the same Vincent Whitehead Cashy .. not many around here though .. so sorry, if I have got it wrong. Is he abour 61 ?

Bit older than me kate.:) more your age i think.:D has a brother my age.

jaysay 14-08-2009 10:10

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Bit older than me kate.:) more your age i think.:D has a brother my age.

I think you'll find it is Vinny cashy, he's younger than me, lives on Badge Brow, a purpose built house right at the end, he's a very innovative bloke he was doing a waste paper collection before HBC started theirs, used to chat to him regularly, I also know his wife Pauline, was brought up on Spring Terrace Ossy

south aussie 14-08-2009 10:13

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Your right Margaret, when I think about it cinemas didn't open in Ossy, because if they had I'd have been there:D


The Palladium did open on Sundays,showing Pakistani movies.
Coach loads from all around the East Lanc,s area every week!

garinda 14-08-2009 10:26

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I remember in the very late sixties and early seventies it was still a cinema, but it only showed Asian films.

Since there were no other cinemas in Ossy by this time I felt very cheated that I wasn't able to go.

The Bollywood posters made it look very exciting.

MargaretR 14-08-2009 12:43

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Originally Posted by south aussie (Post 736236)
The Palladium did open on Sundays,showing Pakistani movies.
Coach loads from all around the East Lanc,s area every week!

I am referring to the 1940s & 50s era - when it didn't

Bernard Dawson 14-08-2009 15:20

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Just a slight deviation. Does anybody still ask for the Load of Mischief stop in Clayton , when they are getting of the bus at the Hare and Hounds?

I

BERNADETTE 14-08-2009 15:50

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I just ask for Hare and Hounds

Bernard Dawson 14-08-2009 17:27

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I just ask for Hare and Hounds

It was just the nostalgia thing Bernie. I doubt there will be many people who will remember the Load of Mischief, never mind bus drivers.

BERNADETTE 14-08-2009 17:29

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It was just the nostalgia thing Bernie. I doubt there will be many people who will remember the Load of Mischief, never mind bus drivers.

I remember it vaguely, it was across from the Hare and Hounds wasn't it? Was the bingo hall next door?

katex 14-08-2009 17:35

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It was just the nostalgia thing Bernie. I doubt there will be many people who will remember the Load of Mischief, never mind bus drivers.

LOL .. I still refer to that junction as the Load of Mischief, Bernard .. old habits die hard. Have to reword any directions (or whatever), and usually use the funeral parlour as a marker... :D

Bernard Dawson 14-08-2009 17:42

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I remember it vaguely, it was across from the Hare and Hounds wasn't it? Was the bingo hall next door?

If I remember right it was about where the bus stop is now, right at top of the road when you turn left at the lights to go down to Rishton.

I don't remember the bingo hall. There could well have been one.

BERNADETTE 14-08-2009 17:51

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 736416)
If I remember right it was about where the bus stop is now, right at top of the road when you turn left at the lights to go down to Rishton.

I don't remember the bingo hall. There could well have been one.

There was definetly a bingo hall in that area but not sure exactly where.

garinda 14-08-2009 17:57

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Was the fancy frontage, as shown in the illustration, still like that in the forties/fifties?

Architecturally it makes more sense with that facade, than it does now.

It's always looked unbalanced to me.

garinda 14-08-2009 18:02

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 736362)
Just a slight deviation. Does anybody still ask for the Load of Mischief stop in Clayton , when they are getting of the bus at the Hare and Hounds?

I


I only remember it from seeing it on the front of the old Accy buses.

I also remember the conductors shouting that out as a destination whilst they were at the terminal.

To me it sounded like they were shouting Lord of Mischief.

Which I always felt would be a good job to have.

Sadly I never even made it to Master of Mischief.

:D

Gayle 14-08-2009 18:06

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Sadly I never even made it to Master of Mischief.

:D

Oh, I think you did! :tongueout

garinda 14-08-2009 18:15

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Oh, I think you did! :tongueout

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Flatterer!

:angel:

cashman 14-08-2009 18:53

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 736362)
Just a slight deviation. Does anybody still ask for the Load of Mischief stop in Clayton , when they are getting of the bus at the Hare and Hounds?

I

when i left school n started work (Easter63) always asked fer load of mischief going yon, rare i catch bus that far on now, but still n probably always will call it so, as kate says think its n age thing. near sure there used to be a bus from accy just went yon?:) most went to clayton though. was a good little boozer in its day also.

Bernard Dawson 14-08-2009 20:07

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when i left school n started work (Easter63) always asked fer load of mischief going yon, rare i catch bus that far on now, but still n probably always will call it so, as kate says think its n age thing. near sure there used to be a bus from accy just went yon?:) most went to clayton though. was a good little boozer in its day also.

People still said the Load of Mischief on the bus, when asked where they bound for.This was long after the pub had vanished. The name has always fascinated me as well.

West Ender 14-08-2009 20:50

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It was just the nostalgia thing Bernie. I doubt there will be many people who will remember the Load of Mischief, never mind bus drivers.

I remember it well, though I was hardly ever in Clayton. When I was at Paddock House there were girls at the school from quite a distance away, as far as Colne and surrounding areas, and there were special buses that came into the school grounds to collect at 4 p.m. It always amused me that one of the buses went to Clayton and would be full of schoolgirls, with "Load of Mischief" on the destination sign.

jaysay 15-08-2009 09:24

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It was just the nostalgia thing Bernie. I doubt there will be many people who will remember the Load of Mischief, never mind bus drivers.

Think your right there Bernard I can just about remember it, when was it knocked down anybody remember:confused:

katex 15-08-2009 10:16

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Think your right there Bernard I can just about remember it, when was it knocked down anybody remember:confused:

It actually closed in 1980 Jaysay ... after 160 years of trading, and was demolished to make way for the M65, which was completed in 1996 ... so somewhere around then I guess.

jaysay 15-08-2009 10:42

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It actually closed in 1980 Jaysay ... after 160 years of trading, and was demolished to make way for the M65, which was completed in 1996 ... so somewhere around then I guess.

That surprises me kate, I thought it was long before that, I used to go in the Hare and Hounds most Saturday lunchtimes in the late seventies when Big Alan had it, we used to meet the before going to the Rovers and Al used to come with us, I can't for the life in me picture the pub still being there, can remember the Bank on the opposite corner, but not the pub:confused:

katex 15-08-2009 11:01

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Remember it being demolished due to the M65, but can't be sure what year ... when did they start building the motorway ? ...:D

All references seem to confirm this, including Wikipedia :

Clayton-le-Moors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ah-ha, just found another link in Wikipedia ... Junction 6-7 was opened in 1984 !! Gosh, how time flies..

M65 motorway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

katex 15-08-2009 11:15

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In other words ... Junction 7 is the Dunkenhalgh area .. so the Load of Mischief will have been demolished early 80's ... your memory of it not being there is intact then ... :D

Bernard Dawson 15-08-2009 11:17

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LOL .. I still refer to that junction as the Load of Mischief, Bernard .. old habits die hard. Have to reword any directions (or whatever), and usually use the funeral parlour as a marker... :D

One of the reasons I remember it well, is because when we kids use to go to Rishton a lot.Quite a few of my of my family lived there. Always got of the bus at the Load of Mischief, and walked to Rishton.

For years I never knew what lay beyond the lights at Clayton,we never ventured that far.

Any idea where the name Load of Mischief comes from?

katex 15-08-2009 11:22

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Any idea where the name Load of Mischief comes from?

Seems was called the Land of Mischief originally and evolved into this .. where the first name came from ... just seen it somewhere whilst googling .. LOL .. will have to search again. !

jaysay 15-08-2009 15:24

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In other words ... Junction 7 is the Dunkenhalgh area .. so the Load of Mischief will have been demolished early 80's ... your memory of it not being there is intact then ... :D

Thank God for that thought I was losing it for a moment there kate:D

joaner3 15-08-2009 21:20

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I used to go and watch all the Scary Movies at the Palladium, remember when I was under age to go see the A rated movies. Used to slap the make on real thick.
I don't remember the Palace? I only knew it as the Shopfitters because half of all the students at Rhyddings ended up there, (except me) Where was the Empire?

cashman 15-08-2009 22:52

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I used to go and watch all the Scary Movies at the Palladium, remember when I was under age to go see the A rated movies. Used to slap the make on real thick.
I don't remember the Palace? I only knew it as the Shopfitters because half of all the students at Rhyddings ended up there, (except me) Where was the Empire?

would assume up the ginnel just lower than the palladium on other side just below the tech joaner, don't remember it as the flicks, but thats were the Empire dance was, am sure some "Gobbin" will correct me if thats wrong.:D

ossy kid 16-08-2009 02:02

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That,s where it was cash and what a great place to go in the 60s, every Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday. I think it was the Stag pub at the corner and a bank on the other corner.

jaysay 16-08-2009 09:53

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That,s where it was cash and what a great place to go in the 60s, every Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday. I think it was the Stag pub at the corner and a bank on the other corner.

The Stags down Church and is still there, the pub on the corner was the Royal, Twas my granddads local in the 50s

wadey 16-08-2009 16:03

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If you look at this photo "Full Size" you can see that where the wood is breaking away on the corner the original "Palladium" sign

cashman 16-08-2009 16:15

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The Stags down Church and is still there, the pub on the corner was the Royal, Twas my granddads local in the 50s

twas the royal a good thwaites house, became my local when i worked at enfield mill, Joe was landlord at the time, had some great friday nights in yon late 60s n have some funny tales to tell at some point.:)

wadey 16-08-2009 16:17

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There's a better photo by Ian at Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire (UK) - Palladium Picture on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

wadey 16-08-2009 20:58

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Another great photo at 98OswaldPalladium on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

wadey 16-08-2009 21:03

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The Accrington Corporation Steam Tramways Company was a joint venture between the Corporation and a private concern, under the Accrington Corporation Tramways Act of 1882.

Construction began in 1884 with three routes radiating from the Market Place. The first ran to the Commercial Hotel in Church, via Blackburn Road, travelling past the Town Hall and the tram depot in Ellison Street. The second route terminated at the 'Load of Mischief' in Clayton-le-Moors and ran via Whalley Road. The third route ran to Baxenden Station on the boundary with Haslingden, along Abbey Street and Manchester Road. The infrastructure and depot were owned by the Corporation and leased to the company for a period of 21 years
Thanks to Accrington Corporation Steam Tramways Co. Ltd. 1886-1907

West Ender 16-08-2009 22:58

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Sad to see the Palladium looking derelict. As an exile of 47 years my image of Oswaldtwistle/Accrington is in a time-warp and I see the Palladium, in my mind's eye, as a cinema that's beginning to lose out to television but still attracts an audience and still looks quite smart. :)

I saw "Rock Around the Clock" there (nobody ripped up any seats) and wept my way through "Carousel" (oh....when Gordon McRae died and they sang "You'll Never Walk Alone" to his widow. Eat your heart out Gerry Marsden). I watched Errol Flynn fight the Sheriff of Nottingham and rode the range with Roy Rodgers. I also got off the 267 Ribble bus there from 1948 to 1959, going to St Mary's and then Paddock House.

I see Union Rd as full of thriving shops, Church train station looking just as it had when my mother lived there, the Urban District Council offices at Church Commercial, all soot-blackened and busy, with that fascinating curved wall.

I sometimes went to the Palace where the manager used to creep around the auditorium looking for courting couples "up to no good". If he found one doing something he disapproved of (God alone knows what) he would grab the male by the collar and forcibly eject him on to the pavement outside; such a guardian of public morality. :D

jaysay 17-08-2009 09:46

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No body ripped up sets when you saw Rock round The Clock, West Ender, I must have gone on another night then:D:D

West Ender 17-08-2009 14:22

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No body ripped up sets when you saw Rock round The Clock, West Ender, I must have gone on another night then:D:D


You probably went a few years later than me. ;)

jaysay 17-08-2009 16:15

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 737179)
You probably went a few years later than me. ;)

No West Ender, I was probably a bit younger:D


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