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garinda 04-07-2010 16:04

Listed buildings in Hyndburn.
 
The list of buildings and monuments, with listed status in our area.

Including the now dilapidated Conservative Club in Paradise Street.

Listed Buildings in Accrington, Lancashire, England | British Listed Buildings

(Click on the blue heading, for more details of each building.)

Gayle 04-07-2010 16:22

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I've always thought it a bit strange that the Civic Theatre wasn't listed, BUT it's good that it wasn't or else we wouldn't have been able to make some of the changes that we have. :D

garinda 04-07-2010 18:53

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 826360)
I've always thought it a bit strange that the Civic Theatre wasn't listed, BUT it's good that it wasn't or else we wouldn't have been able to make some of the changes that we have. :D

I've always thought it quite an anonymous looking building, albeit one of imposing size.

Not very grand, or fancy, compared to neighbouring Town Halls, and considering the vast amount of brass that must have been rolling into the town's coffers, from the numerous mills etc., when it was built in 1874.

It can hardly be described as being the height of mid to late Victoriana in style. It's quite puritanical, and utilitarian, by design. Perhaps my Primitive Methodist anscestors had a say in choosing the winning architectural design.

:rolleyes:

It used to house the Fire Station too, when the engines were horse drawn.

Gayle 04-07-2010 21:09

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 826382)
I've always thought it quite an anonymous looking building, albeit one of imposing size.

Not very grand, or fancy, compared to neighbouring Town Halls, and considering the vast amount of brass that must have been rolling into the town's coffers, from the numerous mills etc., when it was built in 1874.

It can hardly be described as being the height of mid to late Victoriana in style. It's quite puritanical, and utilitarian, by design. Perhaps my Primitive Methodist anscestors had a say in choosing the winning architectural design.

:rolleyes:

It used to house the Fire Station too, when the engines were horse drawn.


I agree, it's not the most attractive of facades but I just thought that its age and past usage might have qualified it to be listed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make a case for it, I'm glad it isn't.

cashman 04-07-2010 21:12

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 826395)
I agree, it's not the most attractive of facades but I just thought that its age and past usage might have qualified it to be listed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make a case for it, I'm glad it isn't.

Dont be too sure Gayle, its much easier to get a demolition order on it.:D:D

garinda 04-07-2010 21:36

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 826395)
I agree, it's not the most attractive of facades but I just thought that its age and past usage might have qualified it to be listed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make a case for it, I'm glad it isn't.

As you say, it's good it isn't, otherwise there would have been a whole hosts of problems with the current work to turn it into an arts centre.

Old isn't always good, and worth saving.

I hate bland, toy town generic architecture. Think what was built on the old out door market. Naff.

Personally I'd have listed the old sixties outdoor market, with it's curved concrete roof, and abstract panels The old fish market, with it's kitsch mosaic. Even the old space age loo in Union Street. At least they were unique, and very of thier time. Unlike Prince Charles's vision of new builds, that everything should be a pastoral mish-mash of quaintness.

Yuk.

Atarah 04-07-2010 21:55

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Hi, take a look at this earlier site
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ings-3247.html

BERNADETTE 04-07-2010 21:56

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 826358)
The list of buildings and monuments, with listed status in our area.

Including the now dilapidated Conservative Club in Paradise Street.

Listed Buildings in Accrington, Lancashire, England | British Listed Buildings

(Click on the blue heading, for more details of each building.)

Would have thought the address for the Con Club would have been Cannon Street as that is where the front entrance is. Will be interesting to see if the council carries out on its promise to make sure the owners of such buildings begin to maintain them. Pretty sure Cannon Street Baptist Church is another listed building that has been allowed to fall into disrepair. About time the council followed through with the owners or take the buildings from them IMO

garinda 04-07-2010 23:33

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According to English Heritage, the canal basin, and coke ovens, known locally as the Fairy Caves, at the side of the Leeds/Liverpool canal, are classed as being in a 'very bad condition', on their At Risk Register.

English Heritage | English Heritage

garinda 05-07-2010 00:43

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You can download the whole list of listed buildings in Hyndburn.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa..._buildings.pdf

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/sc...downloadID=726

jaysay 05-07-2010 08:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 826382)
I've always thought it quite an anonymous looking building, albeit one of imposing size.

Not very grand, or fancy, compared to neighbouring Town Halls, and considering the vast amount of brass that must have been rolling into the town's coffers, from the numerous mills etc., when it was built in 1874.

It can hardly be described as being the height of mid to late Victoriana in style. It's quite puritanical, and utilitarian, by design. Perhaps my Primitive Methodist anscestors had a say in choosing the winning architectural design.

:rolleyes:

It used to house the Fire Station too, when the engines were horse drawn.

If you pop in the heritage centre at the top of Monarch Street there is a photo of the Fire Brigade outside the Town Hall, the horses were kept in stables down the Straits, I actually reproduced that photo for the civic society from one my father had, his father was on the pick

garinda 05-07-2010 10:13

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 826497)
If you pop in the heritage centre at the top of Monarch Street there is a photo of the Fire Brigade outside the Town Hall, the horses were kept in stables down the Straits, I actually reproduced that photo for the civic society from one my father had, his father was on the pick

How long did your father work for the Fire Brigade?

jaysay 05-07-2010 10:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 826520)
How long did your father work for the Fire Brigade?

It was his Father G, not my father, my Granddad, who like yourself I never knew, was a part time fireman from the end of the 1st World War until he died in 1934, the reason for his early death was partly because he was gassed while serving in France

garinda 05-07-2010 10:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 826525)
It was his Father G, not my father, my Granddad, who like yourself I never knew, was a part time fireman from the end of the 1st World War until he died in 1934, the reason for his early death was partly because he was gassed while serving in France

Oh, ok, sorry to hear that.

Had a distant relative who worked as a fireman, but think that was in the late thirties.

garinda 07-07-2010 10:58

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Rather more detail, than on the offical listed building/monument site, of Ossy War Memorial and Rhyddings Mill. (Page 66.)

War Memorial, Union Road, c.1920, Grade II - 183899. Polished
Cornish granite with bronze statues. Up 3 steps an oblong plinth with
curved ends carrying a tapered obelisk; mounted in front of the
obelisk are statues of a soldier with rifle and bayonet protecting a
fallen comrade, at each side is a rostrum bearing a bronze angel
crouching with a wreath, and the apex is surmounted by a large angel
with wings aloft standing on a globe. Plinth is inscribed:
Erected By Public Subscription To The Memory Of The Men
Of This Town Who Fell In The Great War 1914 - 1918
Greater Love Hath No Man Than This, That He Lay Down His
Life For His Friends / 1939 - 1945 To The Memory Of Those
Who Gave Their Lives In The World War Also Those Who
Died In The Korean War 1950 - 1953.
(listed in UK National Inventory of War Memorials)

Rhyddings Mill, Rhyddings Street, 1856, Grade II – 183911. Former
cotton weaving mill. Coursed rubble, much of it rusticated, with
Welsh slate roofs. The listed items consist of the principal warehouse
and preparation block with weaving shed to rear, the works entrance
and engine house adjacent to left, the chimney stack, and the front
perimeter walls and two entrance lodges. Internally only the principal
range and weaving sheds are of special interest: the warehouse was
not fireproof, with timber floors and chamfered beams supported by
iron cradles on piers of circular section with rudimentary moulded
capitals; similar columns to weaving sheds. Rhyddings Mill is an
interesting example of a mid-19th century textile mill designed with
considerable architectural pretensions as part of a larger-scale urban
development consisting of employees' housing, speculative housing
and the parish church. This was the first independent weaving mill in
Oswaldtwistle, built by Watson Brothers, later Robert Watson &
Sons, who also had a mill at Stonebridge, on the other side of the
river. In 1930, the mill had 280 employees and 699 looms worked by
a 270 hp beam engine; manufactured fabrics were mainly printers,
dhooties, jacconettes and dobby cloth. A second weaving shed was
erected in 1951 and equipped with 250 electrically driven looms.
Production ceased on the site in 1957.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa..._CAA_Final.pdf

garinda 06-09-2011 17:10

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A question about the Town Hall/the old Peel Institute building.

On the portico, either side of the front entrance, there are two circular niches, with decorative stone work above them, which look like they used to contain two roundels.

If you look closely, you can see two rusted hooks in each, which adds to the evidence they once had something attached to them.

Does anyone know, or remember if they did used to have something in them, and if so what were they?

Thanks.

garinda 06-09-2011 17:15

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 931621)
A question about the Town Hall/the old Peel Institute building.

On the portico, either side of the front entrance, there are two circular niches, with decorative stone work above them, which look like they used to contain two roundels.

If you look closely, you can see two rusted hooks in each, which adds to the evidence they once had something attached to them.

Does anyone know, or remember if they did used to have something in them, and if so what were they?

Thanks.

You can sort of see them on here.

The two dark circles either side the centre arch, just below the balcony parapet.

wadey 06-09-2011 20:02

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Would they have been lamps perhaps

garinda 07-09-2011 00:39

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Originally Posted by wadey (Post 931682)
Would they have been lamps perhaps

That would make sense, lighting the entrance way, but would they have had gas in 1858?

Plus, the only things that are visible in the circles are two little hooks at either side. There's nothing in the middle.

To me it looks like plaques hung in there.

Searching for evidence, came across this site, which has some wonderful photographs of bygone Accrington.

Accrington|Historic Lancashire

garinda 07-09-2011 00:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 931740)
That would make sense, lighting the entrance way, but would they have had gas in 1858?

Plus, the only things that are visible in the circles are two little hooks at either side. There's nothing in the middle.

To me it looks like plaques hung in there.

Searching for evidence, came across this site, which has some wonderful photographs of bygone Accrington.

Accrington|Historic Lancashire

Just found the Moors in Spain employed people to light their gas fuelled street lamps in 1000 AD, so it could have made it's way to Accy by 1858 AD.

:o

jaysay 07-09-2011 09:11

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 931741)
Just found the Moors in Spain employed people to light their gas fuelled street lamps in 1000 AD, so it could have made it's way to Accy by 1858 AD.

:o

Well from what I have heard they had those in Ossy too at one time Rindi maybe was the same bloke who was the knocker up first thing in a morning, multi tasking:D

garinda 07-09-2011 09:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 931791)
Well from what I have heard they had those in Ossy too at one time Rindi maybe was the same bloke who was the knocker up first thing in a morning, multi tasking:D

Could be right.

Though one of my great-grandmother didn't do both.

She was a knocker upper, but wouldn't have lit gas lamps.

She thought it was so dangerous she wouldn't have gas in her home in Ash Street, even in the sixties, which was when she died.

http://edcmania.com/forum/images/smi...miley_fire.gif

jaysay 07-09-2011 10:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 931796)
Could be right.

Though one of my great-grandmother didn't do both.

She was a knocker upper, but wouldn't have lit gas lamps.

She thought it was so dangerous she wouldn't have gas in her home in Ash Street, even in the sixties, which was when she died.

http://edcmania.com/forum/images/smi...miley_fire.gif

Ya my Grans sister was like that, terrified of gas, her house burnt down when she knocked a candle over:D

garinda 07-10-2011 17:44

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(Didn't want to start a new thread - not sure if all are listed.)

Architects of various Accrington buildings.

http://archiseek.com/2009/1908-holli...on-lancashire/

Hollins Hill.

The Carnegie Public Library.

St. Peter's Church.

High Lea.

garinda 07-10-2011 17:48

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Plus Peel Park School.

1906 – Peel Park Council Schools, Accrington, Lancashire | Architecture News & Discussion - Archiseek.com

Atarah 07-10-2011 17:58

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Mmm, have my reservations about High Lea? This is a property I believe on Queens Road and one of our members once wrote about his grandparents having lived there? But, I dont recall seeing it being listed? And for that matter, my old school Peel Park. If it is listed, I certainly havent seen it mentioned anywhere?

garinda 07-10-2011 18:11

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 938504)
Mmm, have my reservations about High Lea? This is a property I believe on Queens Road and one of our members once wrote about his grandparents having lived there? But, I dont recall seeing it being listed? And for that matter, my old school Peel Park. If it is listed, I certainly havent seen it mentioned anywhere?

Sorry, not sure if any are listed.

Just wanted to record the names of the architects used on the local buildings mentioned, and couldn't find a suitable thread, and didn't think it warranted a new one.

garinda 07-10-2011 18:42

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Information on link about James Green of Todmorden, architect of Accrington's Peel Institute, now the Town Hall.

portsmouthmill

mobertol 07-10-2011 19:54

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OMG!! - Link between Accrington and "Alice in Wonderland" Miaoww!

/www.oakhillpark.com/?page=hargreaves

garinda 07-10-2011 20:06

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 938533)
OMG!! - Link between Accrington and "Alice in Wonderland" Miaoww!

/www.oakhillpark.com/?page=hargreaves

There's more about Alice Liddell's connection to Accrington in this thread (#83).

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...s-51415-6.html


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