Accrington Web

Accrington Web (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/index.php)
-   Heritage and History (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f124/)
-   -   Arden Pub (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f124/arden-pub-54433.html)

Atarah 12-08-2010 12:26

Arden Pub
 
3 Attachment(s)
Hi I have mentioned this pub very recently when I spotted two young lads re-painting. (and making an excellent job of it too).

Now I have heard they intend to revert back to the old name of THE FLYING DUTCHMAN.

If this is so, may I ask ................ WHY?

I think some of our members frequent this pub, anyone know the reason for the possible name change?

Tealeaf 12-08-2010 13:00

Re: Arden Pub
 
Well, the Flying Dutchman is/was a ghost ship, deemed to sail the seven seas for eternity. Maybe the Arden will be a ghost pub, where spirits will be found other than on the top shelf and lost souls will prop up the bar contemplating loudly the meaning of life while the wailing banshee (aka the barmaid) tells 'em to sup up and get out.

Not much different, then, than most pubs in Accy.

Atarah 12-08-2010 13:09

Re: Arden Pub
 
Nice one Tealeaf!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_..._the_Caribbean)

davebtelford 12-08-2010 14:12

Re: Arden Pub
 
I think I've supped in the Arden - is it the one that (oddly) has a working fireplace under a window ? (The ground floor window on the side elevation below the pub name I believe.)

I can't remember it being called The Flying Dutchman - when was that?

Retlaw 12-08-2010 14:21

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 836617)
I think I've supped in the Arden - is it the one that (oddly) has a working fireplace under a window ? (The ground floor window on the side elevation below the pub name I believe.)

I can't remember it being called The Flying Dutchman - when was that?

Thats because it was back in 1869 & only for a brief period.
The real Flying Dutchman was at 34 Bank St, it was later used by Daltons Printers before they moved to Hyndburn Rd.

Retlaw.

cashman 12-08-2010 14:25

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 836574)
Hi I have mentioned this pub very recently when I spotted two young lads re-painting. (and making an excellent job of it too).

Now I have heard they intend to revert back to the old name of THE FLYING DUTCHMAN.

If this is so, may I ask ................ WHY?

I think some of our members frequent this pub, anyone know the reason for the possible name change?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 836620)
Thats because it was back in 1869 & only for a brief period.
The real Flying Dutchman was at 34 Bank St, it was later used by Daltons Printers before they moved to Hyndburn Rd.

Retlaw.

Seems a bit daft to change the name, if thats the case?:confused:

Tealeaf 12-08-2010 14:42

Re: Arden Pub
 
I can't understand it, either. Publicans have a very good argument about the need to crack down on unfair competition from supermarkets. Why then, spend silly money on changing the name of a pub? An expensive rebranding exercise may well be suitable for a chocolate bar, but not a local boozer.

About ten years ago they changed the name of the Tanpits pub in Church to the Plough. It may well have been done to avoid confusion with the Tanpits Club but in the end it did neither of 'em any good because they are both now permanently shut.

Retlaw 12-08-2010 18:01

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 836620)
Thats because it was back in 1869 & only for a brief period.
The real Flying Dutchman was at 34 Bank St, it was later used by Daltons Printers before they moved to Hyndburn Rd.

Retlaw.

I think some of you may remember there was a thread on the Arden Inn not long ago, when 1/2 of Accy Webbers were calling in to look at a picture,
Dob Bodson have a lot to say on the subject.
Retlaw.

Taggy 12-08-2010 20:04

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 836617)
I think I've supped in the Arden - is it the one that (oddly) has a working fireplace under a window ? (The ground floor window on the side elevation below the pub name I believe.)

I can't remember it being called The Flying Dutchman - when was that?

They do have a modern but old style looking fire within the fireplace but its not under the window its in the room to the left of the bar as soon as you go in. They used to have one in the darts room too, with the board over it, but think thats blocked in now....its a bit since i was in, might pop in next Sat before i go Syndey Street!

Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay 13-08-2010 09:31

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 836627)
I can't understand it, either. Publicans have a very good argument about the need to crack down on unfair competition from supermarkets. Why then, spend silly money on changing the name of a pub? An expensive rebranding exercise may well be suitable for a chocolate bar, but not a local boozer.

About ten years ago they changed the name of the Tanpits pub in Church to the Plough. It may well have been done to avoid confusion with the Tanpits Club but in the end it did neither of 'em any good because they are both now permanently shut.

Have to agree with you on that one Tealeaf, they did it with the Hargreaves Arms too, why. Every pub has its regulars, and I know if the were changing the name of my local I wouldn't be to happy:(

davebtelford 13-08-2010 10:17

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 836738)
They do have a modern but old style looking fire within the fireplace but its not under the window its in the room to the left of the bar as soon as you go in. They used to have one in the darts room too, with the board over it, but think thats blocked in now....its a bit since i was in, might pop in next Sat before i go Syndey Street!

Best Regards - Taggy

The photo shows a chimney on the side elevation - but it has no pots, so maybe it's been blocked up? From memory the flue was on the left of the fireplace as you looked out of the window - which would make sense. Has anyone seen another fireplace under a window?

Taggy 14-08-2010 21:12

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 836574)
Hi I have mentioned this pub very recently when I spotted two young lads re-painting. (and making an excellent job of it too).

Now I have heard they intend to revert back to the old name of THE FLYING DUTCHMAN.

If this is so, may I ask ................ WHY?

I think some of our members frequent this pub, anyone know the reason for the possible name change?

You are correct Atarah...my friend called in there last night and asked, and indeed they are changing the name!...I really dont see the point..but seems to be the thing to do these days...but why at the Arden?...its not like it has a bad reputation that a name change might help with, the pubs always been a pretty decent boozer really!...I must admit though, the current landlord does seem to be making an effort, and breathing some new life into the pub..but the same can be said for at least the last 3 or 4 landlords there that i know of...things look promissing in the early stages only for custom to die off a bit later...hopefully not the case this time!

Best Regards - Taggy

davebtelford 15-08-2010 09:03

Re: Arden Pub
 
Maybe if they opened up that fireplace & promoted it as a feature ??????

flashy 15-08-2010 09:34

Re: Arden Pub
 
has Ste Bentham still got the Arden?

Taggy 15-08-2010 11:42

Re: Arden Pub
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 837444)
has Ste Bentham still got the Arden?

If he's the chap that used to be at The Crown (Benny) then yes!

Best Regards - Taggy


All times are GMT. The time now is 17:55.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
© 2003-2013 AccringtonWeb.com