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Atarah 28-04-2012 07:32

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Hi, have to confess, dont know much about this subject yet, but am slowly learning.
I know that many good ol' Accrington folk left their homes for a new life in America from c1850 onwards. Some had been tempted by an inducement held out to block printers who in England had been feeling the results of the machine printing. Many of our ancestors ventured to cross the Atlantic with the hope that there would be brighter prospects in that country for that trade. Many went to Rhode Island, Fall River, Providence etc.
I have a friend lives out there, she is a result of an Accrington family travelling out there and making it their home. (her family left here early 1900's). She has just sent me a wonderful link, thought I would share it, and hope we get more information about the cotton trade on this thread. She tells me she has, only this week, been touring the mills in Lowell, Massachusetts with friends. It is a National Park Site with rooms full of looms running at top speed. The mill she was in was built just about the time her grandparents left Accrington to go to Rhode Island.
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. www.nps.gov/lowe/

Retlaw 28-04-2012 11:49

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 987923)
Hi, have to confess, dont know much about this subject yet, but am slowly learning.
I know that many good ol' Accrington folk left their homes for a new life in America from c1850 onwards. Some had been tempted by an inducement held out to block printers who in England had been feeling the results of the machine printing. Many of our ancestors ventured to cross the Atlantic with the hope that there would be brighter prospects in that country for that trade. Many went to Rhode Island, Fall River, Providence etc.
I have a friend lives out there, she is a result of an Accrington family travelling out there and making it their home. (her family left here early 1900's). She has just sent me a wonderful link, thought I would share it, and hope we get more information about the cotton trade on this thread. She tells me she has, only this week, been touring the mills in Lowell, Massachusetts with friends. It is a National Park Site with rooms full of looms running at top speed. The mill she was in was built just about the time her grandparents left Accrington to go to Rhode Island.
.
. www.nps.gov/lowe/

Some of their sons came back to Accrington at the outbreak of WW1 to enlist in the forces. The same for those who emigrated to Canada, over 70 men who had been born in Greater Accrington, joined the Canadian Army, and were stationed in England during part of their training.

Retlaw.

Pudwoppa 28-04-2012 14:46

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I've seen lots of references to people moving to mill towns in many North East US States; Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New England and New Hampshire - but particularly Pawtucket Rhode Island. This article on the textile migration is quite interesting.

The Howard and Bullough American Machine Co. was set up in Pawtucket. I'd assume it's location was in part related to the high number of Lancashire folk in that area.

Bob Dobson 28-04-2012 19:18

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Originally Posted by Pudwoppa (Post 987985)
I've seen lots of references to people moving to mill towns in many North East US States; Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New England and New Hampshire - but particularly Pawtucket Rhode Island. This article on the textile migration is quite interesting.

The Howard and Bullough American Machine Co. was set up in Pawtucket. I'd assume it's location was in part related to the high number of Lancashire folk in that area.

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An excellent essay on a subject I find very interesting as my grandfather and his brother went to New England. The brother stayed and I am in touch with my 'cousins' and 'aunts' I once read a letter sent to the Accrington Observer by an Accringtonian who had gone out there. It told of a big gathering of Accy folk having recently taken place - 400 of them.
I have visited Lawrence & KLowell. In Lowel I came across a weaving shed with Lancashire looms The cast iron plate on the end read ENTWISTLE, LOWELL. I reckon Entwistle was a Lancashsire bloke whio had had the looms made in Accrington with his name on.

Retlaw 28-04-2012 21:29

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An excellent essay on a subject I find very interesting as my grandfather and his brother went to New England. The brother stayed and I am in touch with my 'cousins' and 'aunts' I once read a letter sent to the Accrington Observer by an Accringtonian who had gone out there. It told of a big gathering of Accy folk having recently taken place - 400 of them.
I have visited Lawrence & KLowell. In Lowel I came across a weaving shed with Lancashire looms The cast iron plate on the end read ENTWISTLE, LOWELL. I reckon Entwistle was a Lancashsire bloke whio had had the looms made in Accrington with his name on.

No need to have them made back in Lancashire, once Bullough's, or Northrop had set up a factory's abroad, johnny foreigner was quick to strip machines down, and duplicate their own, using the end plate of a Northrop Loom as a pattern, give it a good rapping to allow for contraction, fill in the existing name with moulding sand, and press in a wooden block with your own name on it, and when its cast it will be as you saw it. Langs & Bullough's used to do that with broken machine parts, tack weld the broken parts, & use it as a pattern, when it would have been too expensive to make a duplicate wood pattern. Some things they did have to have made here, as the septics couldn't make high quality steel, when Samuel Colt started making his early revolvers he had to buy the silver steel for the barrels & cylinders in Sheffield.
Retlaw

rtbarton 08-05-2012 10:35

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 988043)
.......... Langs & Bullough's used to do that with broken machine parts, tack weld the broken parts, & use it as a pattern, when it would have been too expensive to make a duplicate wood pattern. ........
Retlaw

That's interesting, patterns are usually made oversize to allow for contraction when the metal freezes. I would have thought that using a part as a pattern would produce too small a casting.

Retlaw 08-05-2012 11:14

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Originally Posted by rtbarton (Post 990482)
That's interesting, patterns are usually made oversize to allow for contraction when the metal freezes. I would have thought that using a part as a pattern would produce too small a casting.

Thats why I included the term give it a good rapping, a metal spike is inserted in the origanal casting, and before it is removed from the mould, it is rapped well, this causes enough movement to make up for some of the contraction losses, 1/120, whch is roughly 3/32nd of a inch per foot.
Retlaw.

rtbarton 08-05-2012 11:28

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I guess "rapping" means moving it about a bit in the sand - I thought it meant hitting it!

That's a neat trick - I'll remember that.

kriselk 18-02-2014 19:55

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 987923)
Hi, have to confess, dont know much about this subject yet, but am slowly learning.
I know that many good ol' Accrington folk left their homes for a new life in America from c1850 onwards. Some had been tempted by an inducement held out to block printers who in England had been feeling the results of the machine printing. Many of our ancestors ventured to cross the Atlantic with the hope that there would be brighter prospects in that country for that trade. Many went to Rhode Island, Fall River, Providence etc.
I have a friend lives out there, she is a result of an Accrington family travelling out there and making it their home. (her family left here early 1900's). She has just sent me a wonderful link, thought I would share it, and hope we get more information about the cotton trade on this thread. She tells me she has, only this week, been touring the mills in Lowell, Massachusetts with friends. It is a National Park Site with rooms full of looms running at top speed. The mill she was in was built just about the time her grandparents left Accrington to go to Rhode Island.
.
. www.nps.gov/lowe/

My Evans family were some of those who left and settled in Fall River, Massachusetts in the 1880s. And now I'm "returning" to Lancashire, through family history research and a visit this summer.

Atarah 18-02-2014 20:38

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Fascinating! Glad you realise you are Lancashire through and through! :-)
Where were your ancestors living before they went to America?
Have you made contact with our Family History group yet?

Atarah 18-02-2014 20:55

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This may be of interest
Fall River, Massachusetts City Information - ePodunk

Uncle Mick 18-02-2014 21:33

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I have relations, in fact a stray who turned up in Fall River and looking through the census records there were a large amount of people arriving from East Lancashire. For Facebook types, here is a good link
https://www.facebook.com/FallRiverHistoryClub

Bob Dobson 19-02-2014 05:50

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In a very old Observer, I read a letter from someone who had emigrated to New England. It told of a recent gathering of over 400 Lancashire folk, many from Acc. Many of the mills are still standing, made into 'condominiums' - flats. I visited some of my relations for the first time in 1978. They had placed a Nori on the table to make me feel welcome. They had taken it home on a recent visit to see where their dad grew up.

DtheP47 20-02-2014 08:51

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EllisIsland.org makes interesting reading, a while ago I entered my surname as a general search and was surprised at the number of my lot arriving there in the late 1800's from Clayton le Moors and indeed Lancashire.

kriselk 27-02-2014 03:56

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Hi Atarah,
First of all, apologies for calling you June earlier. Confusion over messages and replies at first. And yes, I've been persusing the Hyndburn page and enjoying it. Haven't found any relatives yet, but I haven't given up.
Thank you so much for getting me the invite and for your interest and help,
Kristin

Atarah 27-02-2014 06:07

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Hi nice to hear from you. Keep enjoying your searching, that's the main thing!

Atarah 06-03-2014 06:13

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Hi Kriselk. hope you are well and looking forward to coming to England. I have recently found this short video of Lowell, but I think you should find it rather interesting. (if of course you CAN watch it over there)
Lowell Mill Girls - YouTube

CHAZ1975 10-03-2014 15:35

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i also had family in the cottontrade from Blackburn who went to Pawtucket during the 1880's

kriselk 11-03-2014 23:35

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Hi Atarah,
Yes, I've re-enrolled in the Lancashire History group (was in it a few years back). Prior to emigrating the Evans family was living in Oswaldtwistle. I've been enjoying that FB site as well.

kriselk 11-03-2014 23:44

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Thanks for sharing this video. The youngest daughter of my gggrandparents Evans left Fall River and went to work in the mills in Lowell. She died unmarried at age 40.
And coincidentally, my husband's grandmother was born in Lowell.

kriselk 12-03-2014 00:26

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Originally Posted by Uncle Mick (Post 1095007)
I have relations, in fact a stray who turned up in Fall River and looking through the census records there were a large amount of people arriving from East Lancashire. For Facebook types, here is a good link
https://www.facebook.com/FallRiverHistoryClub

thanks for sharing this Fall River History group site.

Uncle Mick 12-03-2014 07:57

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No problem!

Bob Dobson 12-03-2014 18:17

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Originally Posted by kriselk (Post 1097535)
Hi Atarah,
Yes, I've re-enrolled in the Lancashire History group (was in it a few years back). Prior to emigrating the Evans family was living in Oswaldtwistle. I've been enjoying that FB site as well.


Please tell us how to find the Lancashire History group.

Barrie Yates 18-03-2014 00:06

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My maternal grandparents emigrated to South Carolina in the 1890s but he was a Quarry Master, however I met up with a couple of chaps from Rochdale/Oldham area who were in the cotton trade, that was in Greenville, Sth Carolina. I was told that there were quite a number of East Lancs expats in Sth Carolina working in the textile industry.

taddy 18-03-2014 15:52

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In 1910, the year my father William Hadfield was born, his sister Beatrice married a chap called John Hadfield, with Beatrice already having the surname of Hadfield she did not have to change her name.
They came from Ashton under lyne and emigrated to Pawtucket in the same year, My older brother once told me that she became interested in local politics and became known as "The Grand Lady of New England", although I cannot find any reference to that title anywhere. maybe one of our friends from the U.S.A. could enlighten me on this. Yours Taddy.

Morecambe Ex Pat 11-07-2014 10:17

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We have links in our Hodgkinson family tree with Fall River MS. They were originally from Grindleton and part of the family emigrated to Fall River and other family members settled in the Haslingden/Rising Bridge area.

We found a picture of a Hodgkinson grave in Fall River Cemetery and made contact with a family member but as yet we have not had any further information from them.

sudders 05-10-2014 20:08

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I know this is an older post but as I'm new to the site its taking me ages to read all the interesting posts.
My GGGrandparents John and Alice Sudders went out to New Jersey in 1844. Great grandfather Joseph was born there but he returned to Accrington ca 1870 with his mother and brother.
Never found out what happened to John but as he had taken out American citizenship he may have fought in the civil war in the 1860's....then again he could have taken another wife or just died of natual causes!


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