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JoanR 04-08-2012 19:55

New Jerusalem Church Abbey St.
 
This may be a very elementary question but how do I locate specific photos on the site? I'm looking for the old New Jerusalem Church Abbey St. I attended the Sunday School on Hargreaves St. in the forties and fifties and I was married in the church.

I'd also like to see a photo of the Grammar School on Blackburn Rd. I looked in the Photo section but didn't see anything.

Thank you for any help.

Joan

susie123 04-08-2012 20:10

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There may not be any but try typing New Jerusalem or Grammar School in the search box at the top of the page.

If you want photos of the church there is one of the inside and one of the outside in 1899 at

Photos of Accrington - Francis Frith

susie123 04-08-2012 20:13

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Two photos of the grammar school here:

Accrington Grammar School | Secondary School | Friends Reunited

Retlaw 04-08-2012 20:17

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Originally Posted by JoanR (Post 1007186)
This may be a very elementary question but how do I locate specific photos on the site? I'm looking for the old New Jerusalem Church Abbey St. I attended the Sunday School on Hargreaves St. in the forties and fifties and I was married in the church.

I'd also like to see a photo of the Grammar School on Blackburn Rd. I looked in the Photo section but didn't see anything.

Thank you for any help.

Joan

I also against my will, had to attend during the 1930's to mid 1940's.
The church was built at a cost of 4000 quid 1848/49, on the site of an earlier church/school dated circa 1800.
Your New Jerusalem church was demolished in 1968, also in the same time period 3 other church's were demolished, Abbey St Wesleyans, Oak St Congies and the Church at the botton of Union St, all their war memorials have vanished.
The library should have photos

susie123 04-08-2012 20:23

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1007190)
I also against my will, had to attend during the 1930's to mid 1940's.
The church was built at a cost of 4000 quid 1848/49, on the site of an earlier church/school dated circa 1800.
Your New Jerusalem church was demolished in 1968, also in the same time period 3 other church's were demolished, Abbey St Wesleyans, Oak St Congies and the Church at the botton of Union St, all their war memorials have vanished.
The library should have photos

New Jerusalem wasn't demolished till the new road was built in the eighties.

GENUKI: Birtwistle St New Jerusalem, Accrington, Lancashire genealogy

The library's no good to Joan, she lives in Canada.

MargaretR 04-08-2012 20:28

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There may be what you want here
Lancashire Lantern

Retlaw 04-08-2012 20:37

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1007191)
New Jerusalem wasn't demolished till the new road was built in the eighties.

GENUKI: Birtwistle St New Jerusalem, Accrington, Lancashire genealogy

The library's no good to Joan, she lives in Canada.

Chipping in again are we.
So what, they have a scanner & have done the same for other people.

As for the church Wrong, the church was demolished before the plans for the new road had been thought of, that church was suffering from dry rot, I lived in Hargreaves St beind the church.
I was also there with a video camera, when they were preparing the site for the petrol station, when they found human bones, and panic set in, police were called & the teapots from the council, they then erected a fence to stop prying eyes.
I have a copper name plate from one of the graves.

susie123 04-08-2012 20:48

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1007194)
Chipping in again are we.

Yes I am - I'll chip in if I want, it's an open forum.

Retlaw 04-08-2012 21:22

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1007199)
Yes I am - I'll chip in if I want, it's an open forum.

Then stick to things you actually know about, from experience, not from cutting and pasting from Goggle [sic] there are enough errors on internet sites, you should know better, and I don't need history lessons about the streets I grew up in from you. If your mouth is any thing like your fingers on a keyboard, then god help your husband.
Now go and start another weeping and wailing sympathy thread.

susie123 04-08-2012 21:37

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1007207)
Now go and start another weeping and wailing sympathy thread.

I would oblige except I haven't a clue what you're on about.

Retlaw 04-08-2012 22:05

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1007216)
I would oblige except I haven't a clue what you're on about.

Meaningless comments

susie123 04-08-2012 22:14

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I'd just like to apologise to Joan for hijacking her thread by what was meant to be an attempt to help her find what she was looking for.

That's the end of trying to make a useful contribution - sorry Joan.

Atarah 05-08-2012 00:11

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Re item 5, dont know why the name BIRTWISTLE ST NEW JERUSALEM is mentioned on Genuki. The new church is on Hargreaves Street, always has been???

Have attached two photos, the second one shows the original New Jerusdalem Church "towering" above the Swan Pub on Abbey Street - photo by my friend Owd Bert.
Also attached a view of the Grammar School

Bob Dobson 05-08-2012 08:29

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Joan. I wonder why you want a photo of the Grammar School. I am membership secretary for the Old Boys. Send me a PM if I can help - but don't ask me to send a photo, as that is beyond my skills

susie123 05-08-2012 11:27

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 1007239)
Re item 5, dont know why the name BIRTWISTLE ST NEW JERUSALEM is mentioned on Genuki. The new church is on Hargreaves Street, always has been???

It does say in the article

A new smaller modern building was erected in Hargreaves St on the site of the old Sunday School and was opened in September 1985 and remains in use.

It also has a facility on the page for anyone to correct the information if they think it is wrong.

I must say looking on Streetview although the church is on Hargreaves Street it is on the corner with Birtwistle Street as well.

I do remember the old buildings as I went to school there in the fifties when Central Prep School was based there.

Retlaw 05-08-2012 16:12

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[quote=susie123;1007312]It does say in the article

A new smaller modern building was erected in Hargreaves St on the site of the old Sunday School and was opened in September 1985 and remains in use.
The new building is not built on the site of the old school, it is on the site of no's 1 to 7 Hargreaves St formerly occupied by 1 Mortimer, 3 Mrs Parker, 5 Gill's & 7 was Jack Sagar the Church & School caretaker.

susie123 05-08-2012 16:20

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[quote=Retlaw;1007349]
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1007312)
It does say in the article

A new smaller modern building was erected in Hargreaves St on the site of the old Sunday School and was opened in September 1985 and remains in use.
The new building is not built on the site of the old school, it is on the site of no's 1 to 7 Hargreaves St formerly occupied by 1 Mortimer, 3 Mrs Parker, 5 Gill's & 7 was Jack Sagar the Church & School caretaker.

Yes that is correct, the Sunday school was further up Hargreaves Street, Having been there every day for school I do remember that.

JoanR 05-08-2012 17:59

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My thanks to everyone for all this help. Susie and Margaret, thank you for your links. I could spend hours looking at these old photographs, and Atarah, thank you for posting the photos. Bob, I'll send you a PM about the Grammar School.

New Jerusalem was a very large church, or so it seemed to me, and it was lovely inside. I'm sorry it's demolished, but I suppose the congregation had dwindled and couldn't support a church of that size. I didn't know about the dry rot.

When I went there, Mr. Hill, Rev. G.T. Hill, was the minister, and I have faint memories of a Mr. Edge before him. Retlaw, you might put me right, if I'm mistaken. Susie, was the Central Prep. School in the same Hargreaves St. Building as the Sunday School? Two of my neighbours attended, twins, Leo and Frances Warren, but they may have been there before you. They lived on Sandy Lane.

Joan

susie123 05-08-2012 18:05

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Originally Posted by JoanR (Post 1007372)
My thanks to everyone for all this help. Susie and Margaret, thank you for your links. I could spend hours looking at these old photographs, and Atarah, thank you for posting the photos. Bob, I'll send you a PM about the Grammar School.

New Jerusalem was a very large church, or so it seemed to me, and it was lovely inside. I'm sorry it's demolished, but I suppose the congregation had dwindled and couldn't support a church of that size. I didn't know about the dry rot.

When I went there, Mr. Hill, Rev. G.T. Hill, was the minister, and I have faint memories of a Mr. Edge before him. Retlaw, you might put me right, if I'm mistaken. Susie, was the Central Prep. School in the same Hargreaves St. Building as the Sunday School? Two of my neighbours attended, twins, Leo and Frances Warren, but they may have been there before you. They lived on Sandy Lane.

Joan

Thank you Joan. Yes, CPS was in the Sunday school building. I was there till 1957, from when the school located from Oak Street Cong sometime at the beginning of the fifties. I was only four when I started so not sure what year they moved but I have a vivid memory of my first day at school at Oak Street!

Your neighbours' names are not familiar but they could have been above me.

Retlaw 05-08-2012 18:22

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Originally Posted by JoanR (Post 1007372)
My thanks to everyone for all this help. Susie and Margaret, thank you for your links. I could spend hours looking at these old photographs, and Atarah, thank you for posting the photos. Bob, I'll send you a PM about the Grammar School.

New Jerusalem was a very large church, or so it seemed to me, and it was lovely inside. I'm sorry it's demolished, but I suppose the congregation had dwindled and couldn't support a church of that size. I didn't know about the dry rot.

When I went there, Mr. Hill, Rev. G.T. Hill, was the minister, and I have faint memories of a Mr. Edge before him. Retlaw, you might put me right, if I'm mistaken. Susie, was the Central Prep. School in the same Hargreaves St. Building as the Sunday School? Two of my neighbours attended, twins, Leo and Frances Warren, but they may have been there before you. They lived on Sandy Lane.

Joan

Mr Edge was the Vicar of the Church, the main school, building on the odd numbered side of Hargreaves St, was used by the Home Guard during the war, after that it was mostly used by the Robert Cunliffe Orchestra & other organisations as a meeting place. The Sunday School, was facing nu 19 to 25 Hargreaves St, and was at one time used by Williams Tool Merchants, that building is still there.


Retlaw 05-08-2012 18:31

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New Jerusalem was a very large church, or so it seemed to me, and it was lovely inside. I'm sorry it's demolished, but I suppose the congregation had dwindled and couldn't support a church of that size. I didn't know about the dry rot.
I watched them when they were taking the roof off, and exposed all the beams & rafters inside, they piled a lot of the stuff in Briggs Yard, next to the old air raid shelter, the main beams were made from yellow pine, that was the timber used in the pattern making industry, lovely wood to work with, but it was just sold on as scrap, all the fancy pinacles got smashed, yes it was a big church one of the biggest in Accrington.


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