how old is your link to Accrington
 

reading on another thread, i saw someone state that, their great great great grandparents grave was in sj james church

got me thinking, how far back is there trace of your ancestors in accrington, i dont mean your knowledge, or recorded in a book knowledge, i mean gravestones, pictures in the town hall, that sort of thing, something anyone can just "see" when walking round accrington

mine would be Sgt James Edward Partlin, his name is on the cenotaph in oak hill park, died of his wounds, flanders 1917, he was my great great grandfather, and his wife May Partlin was shipped over to spend time with him as he was dying, apparantley a common occurrence during "the great war"

so whats yours?

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This is the Newspaper report of his death, the first she knew was in a letter from her hubands C/o.
As to relatives being allowed to visit dieing soldiers, the Red Cross did run such a service, permission to visit had to come from the War Office, it depended a lot on what their injuries were & which hospital they were in, I've seen a lot of copies of telegrams where permission to visit is denied

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the first she knew of what, his death? no i have reasearched this, and it was also told to me that she went to see him, by the end he could only manage the m of her name, the letter was a letter to a widow, not the informing her of his death.

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Have you read the newspaper report it says Killed in Action.
As to your having researched this. Do you have access to records I don't know about, I've not been able to find any service records for him. DId you know his name is on one of the brass plates, which used to be fastened to the pews in St Anne's church Cobham Rd.

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your only basis is a newspaper clipping, if you read it properly it is wrote some time after his death, it is the second letter he wrote.

i am trying to find the link to the entry in edith appletons diary where he and she are mentioned

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The death of Sgt. James Edward Partlin

as for the plaque only the mention in the article

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and how is this not a thread wander, you only posted to tell me i was wrong, then provided evidence!, when in fact i was correct and you dont know everything with your access to all of those records, history is about learning from all sources, and edith appletons is a primary source, the closet one to the event we have, not a letter printed in a paper that some widow asked them to print (read the nurses account)

the whole point of the thread was to ask people THEIR family history in accrington, i merely provided background to the fact that his name is on the cenotaph

where is your oldest family trace, has nothing to do with, your wrong your wrong your wrong.

another case!!!!!!

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What the LLL are you getting exited about, I was only providing a newspaper cutting in case you didn't know of it, lots of people on Accy web have mentioned a relative in WW1 and I've provided them with info they didn't have.
I can't help it if your such a big head, that you expect every one to assume you already know it all.

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Just read your own posts, you didnt supply the clipping for any other reason than to use it as evidence that I was wrong, you even referred to it a second time when questioning my own research, I would have more than welcomed the input you provided had it not have been for your own " big head and know it all" manner in wich it was presented, not getting excited at all, just know when you post to correct someone, make sure they are wrong, don't assume you have all the answers.

You didn't ask if I was sure, that sounds unlikely, how did I know this? Anything

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I think you should be grateful that he's supplied some information It may be wrong (i doubt it), but you shouldn't treat him in such a nasty way.

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another off thread wander, ok i will explain it, again

READ his posts, it wasn't provided in any way other than "evidence" to tell me i was wrong

not have you seen this? is this of interest?

or even

"i have found this cutting regarding your relative, it does say that he was killed in action, how did you know of the wife's visit? although the red cross did arrange visits there was a lot that couldnt go i have seen the telegrams denying the visit"

no he responded with

"This is the Newspaper report of his death, the first she knew was in a letter from her hubands C/o"

he then went back an added in the extra line, look at the post you will see the edit.

as far me being nasty, in what way have I been nasty?

there was no malice, no spite, no anger, what was nasty? because i was short with someone who posted a correction that was incorrect?

i am sure retlaw has provided a lot of useful information and has spent many many hours researching on other peoples behalf, and that is commendable.

that doesnt excuse, what i believe as him "being rude", and the arrogance in assuming he has all the answers.

but no doubt a lot of you wont see that, they won't read subjectively, they won't see anyone elses point of view, look at whats in front of their own noses, no they will just go through life agreeing, when they dont know what they agreeing to.

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Well, without repeating your post.
What a load of bollox, you have so far been miserable, try to improve, I'm sure you can be better than this.


(I apologise to the rest of accyweb, I know I would usually attack such a person, somehow I think he deserves a chance).

No doubt he will take the chance to prove me wrong.

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undoubtably, take the chance that is, once again, i have to contend with people whose only argument for what they post is reverting to swearing, and pretending to be the school master, "could do better",

what is the basis that i , as you put it, am talking "bollox", you dont explain you just say your giving me a chance and that you would normally attack me, attack me?

for what, having an opinion? for posting facts? for correcting someone whose was in fact correcting me, and going "off thread", if u look i am not a new member, been a member for ages, just because i am new to posting, doesnt mean i am new to the forum.

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Lose the Accrington ones in the mists of time, before 1500.

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puzzled!!

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Direct ancestoral links in Lancashire, mainly south of here, from 1066.

When we came over to civilise you.

:D

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yeah but what is the oldest "physical" ancestral link in the town, i

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Sorry, have ancestors as living in Accrington in the 1500's.

Earlier than that those lines sort of peter out.

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Oh dear, has someone actually sworn at you?
I know it wasn't me, well maybe, bollox is trying to get around the swear checker, meanwhile...

What on Earth are you fussing about?

We've upset better people than you!

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are they on gravestones in the area? if so whats the oldest?

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are you still waffling on with no substance, are you going to actually say something
a i aint fussing
b you couldnt upset me, you could annoy me, but upset me ..........no.

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What on Earth are you after?

Are you going to say you have Norman Ancestry?

Or you are an illegitimate child of Charles and his Mother?

Well if so I can tell you I'm from a long line of survivor's and we survive because folk like you mean nothing, zitch, a little bit less, in fact, an infinitey less than how important that you consider yourself, but don't let a mere mortal stop you from spitting that massive dummy all over the site, (I come on at about 3.30 to clean flegm off everyone's screen, I'm here to serve).

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It does blow your mind, the number of direct anscestors we all have.

Someone once posted on here that all their anscestors were pure Lancastrian.

Until I pointed out that most geneologists work on the assumption that we have four generations a century, and as the number of anscestors double each generations, if we go back a thousand years, her great, great, great etc. grandparents very nearly out numbered the then population of England, never mind Lancashire.

I'm proud to be a direct descendent of the Henry I and the Plantagenets, but they're one of thousands. I'm equally proud to be descended from the thousands of many x great-grandparents, who quietly toiled away, and who the history books don't tell us much about at all.

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what am i after?
a discussion, if you would have read the initial post, the start of the thread, the one that you have jumped all over, you would see my earliest "claim" was a reletives name onthe cenotaph, i would look rather silly after everyone has posted, and then said well actually in a de lacey and you all belong to me!

it was the start of a thread to see how far back others have "solid links" to accrington, i say someone was discussing the graves in st james, but i didnt want to spoil that thread with a thread wander, so i started a new one

to attempt to have a grown up conversation, with grown up words

i take it this is your attack that you promised me, or upsetting me, think again

as for the one with the "ego", i havent said anything to imply i believe i am above others, you on the other hand obviously do have a complex of some kind, you now have the delusion that your here to clean up, clean up what? what about my post disgust you so much

because once again, them fingers of yours arent saying right much, are they now?

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plantagents, that hous of york isnt it

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What's your's?

Frankly those family members living in Accy were a bit dull.

I don't take after that side.

Perhaps we're related, and you do?

:rolleyes:

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touche

see now a bit of wit, i like

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Garinda's sense of humour , like his ties with the area are as old as, if not older than the Pennines!;):D

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Theres only a few places left that still have gravestones on their original sites, Accrington Cemetery circa 1860's, Dill Hall Lane, St Barthomomews Gt Harwood, St James Altham, St James's Church Kirk. Oak St, Macpelah, & the Wesley Chapels have gone, some of the stones from Macpelah are in the graveyard up New Lane. Some of the oldest grave stones are in Church Kirk & Altham. As for 4 generations per 100 years, my grandfather was born in 1852 in Baxenden, thats 160 years ago. His mother was born in 1822, she is buried in Accrington cemetery, lots of people back in those days couldn't afford a stone.

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i remember the one at end of hyndburn road, now that place could put the willies up ya!, remember as a lad daring mates to cut through, over the old rusty iron railings, and the long ago mawn grass, through all of the cracked stones, pitch dark

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You mentioned that, when l last mentioned how many generations most genealogists reckon's the average we have, over millenia, given life expetancy, number of issue etc.

You're the exception to the rule.

You long lived old goat.

:D

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sort of works out with my family, the relative im talking about his daughter was born just after turn of century, her, grandmother, mother, me, my eldest was born 1986, thats 5 for us

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My great-great-grandmother was also born in 1852, perhaps they had a dance?

Although if he was cantankerous, I'm guessing not.

:D

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Over centuries and centuries, it does seem to average out at four.

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Now we are the spring chickens of the group since we came here in the mid 1960s

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[QUOTE=churchfcrules;1012876]reading on another thread, i saw someone state that, their great great great grandparents grave was in sj james church

got me thinking, how far back is there trace of your ancestors in accrington, i dont mean your knowledge, or recorded in a book knowledge, i mean gravestones, pictures in the town hall, that sort of thing, something anyone can just "see" when walking round accrington

mine would be Sgt James Edward Partlin, his name is on the cenotaph in oak hill park, died of his wounds, flanders 1917, he was my great great grandfather, and his wife May Partlin was shipped over to spend time with him as he was dying, apparantley a common occurrence during "the great war"

hi i was told when i was young by my great Autie ELLEN her father name is on the oakhill memorial James edward parklin .we played in the park as childen me and my brother.she had a sister called cathy my family are from Accrington..
my auntie had 3 sister she had one picture of JAMES Edward partlin:)

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1967, I'm a newcomer, a legal immigrant from Yorkshireland.

Still not fully accepted.