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pompeylass 30-01-2013 17:26

Where is Moleside?
 
Where is Moleside?

I've been reading the book Edwardian Accrington Observed and in it for the entry covering the King's Coronation celebrations it says that a torchlight procession went up Moleside to the bonfire an the top.

I must confess that I don't remember hearing the name, Moleside, before or knowing where abouts it is.

But I've heard of a Moleside Farm & Moleside Close.

Is it another name for 'The Coppice' or, perhaps, just part of it?

Can anyone enlighten me!

maxthecollie 30-01-2013 17:27

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Moleside is the hill next to the Coppice

pompeylass 30-01-2013 17:34

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So it would be looking down towards Plantation Street - that side?

maxthecollie 30-01-2013 17:35

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As you look up Plantation Street it's to the right of the Coppice

susie123 30-01-2013 17:46

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Try looking on a map. There is no mention of the coppice but Moleside Moor is there.

Map of Moleside Moor in Lancashire

pompeylass 30-01-2013 17:47

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Great! Thanks for that M-t-C.

Perhaps later in the year you could include some photos, of it or from it, in your excellent collection.

cashman 30-01-2013 17:48

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Coppice,Moleside, n then Hambledon as i used to know it.:)

maxthecollie 30-01-2013 17:53

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1039834)
Coppice,Moleside, n then Hambledon as i used to know it.:)

Correct

cashman 30-01-2013 18:17

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1039836)
Correct

Yep had many a trek up Gamblers Caves in me youth.:)

pompeylass 30-01-2013 18:33

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Wah! This is getting interesting.

But, is that all you're going to tell us. I've done some walking up there when I was a kid with my dad and brother but we never came across any caves!

Tell us more!!

Shurm 30-01-2013 18:33

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1039849)
Yep had many a trek up Gamblers Caves in me youth.:)

Me to :eek: not at the same time :D

cashman 30-01-2013 18:44

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Originally Posted by pompeylass (Post 1039854)
Wah! This is getting interesting.

But, is that all you're going to tell us. I've done some walking up there when I was a kid with my dad and brother but we never came across any caves!

Tell us more!!

Its on a thread somewhere but god knows which one.:confused: The caves were just across from the reservoir up yon. just a few hundred yards away.:)

maxthecollie 30-01-2013 19:12

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1039861)
Its on a thread somewhere but god knows which one.:confused: The caves were just across from the reservoir up yon. just a few hundred yards away.:)

Did you have a bet?

susie123 30-01-2013 19:26

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Just search for Gamblers Caves, there are several threads

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ves-16821.html

etc etc

Retlaw 30-01-2013 19:48

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Originally Posted by pompeylass (Post 1039854)
Wah! This is getting interesting.

But, is that all you're going to tell us. I've done some walking up there when I was a kid with my dad and brother but we never came across any caves!

Tell us more!!

There never were any caves, it was a hole in a quarry face, there was a flat area in front of it, where the gambling took place on Sundays during good weather, the gamblers took turns to use a small piece of wood which fitted over the first two fingers of the right hand, the referee would place two 1/2pennies on it which were then tossed into the air when all bets had been placed, either two heads, two tails or odds, look outs were posted on the surrounding high ground to warn of police raids.
My daugter took me up there about two years ago, its completely changed now, the quarry face has been damaged, and its now strewn with rubble, and the old generating station for the WW2 decoy is in a dangerous condition

pompeylass 30-01-2013 19:56

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Thanks Susie.

The last report in those posts was 2008. I wonder if there's been any improvement over the last 4 or 5 years?

Incidentally, I made full use of that link to those 1890 maps you posted. I've turned one into an 800 piece electronic jigsaw and its really difficult but I'm having a great time getting in slowly finished.

susie123 01-02-2013 14:12

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Originally Posted by pompeylass (Post 1039887)
Incidentally, I made full use of that link to those 1890 maps you posted. I've turned one into an 800 piece electronic jigsaw and its really difficult but I'm having a great time getting in slowly finished.

Pompeylass I have a bone to pick with you!;):) You mentioned electronic jigsaw puzzles and as I had never heard of such a thing I looked on the www - found several sites where I could play - and now I am hooked! Still makes a change from the Accyweb arcade games!

cashman 01-02-2013 18:53

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1039884)
There never were any caves, it was a hole in a quarry face, there was a flat area in front of it, where the gambling took place on Sundays during good weather, the gamblers took turns to use a small piece of wood which fitted over the first two fingers of the right hand, the referee would place two 1/2pennies on it which were then tossed into the air when all bets had been placed, either two heads, two tails or odds, look outs were posted on the surrounding high ground to warn of police raids.
My daugter took me up there about two years ago, its completely changed now, the quarry face has been damaged, and its now strewn with rubble, and the old generating station for the WW2 decoy is in a dangerous condition

As far as us kids were concerned they were caves, n all accy called em gamblers caves, hole in quarry they may well have been. but not to kids exploring.;)

DtheP47 02-02-2013 02:20

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1040215)
As far as us kids were concerned they were caves, n all accy called em gamblers caves, hole in quarry they may well have been. but not to kids exploring.;)

Ditto Mr C... caves don't have to be naturally occuring, my Collins book of big words says "an underground hollow with access to the surface...." I am sure Mr Mog will attest that a roof collapse in the mine is called a "cave-in"
Do remember the tablelike stone though, our Woodnook gang reckoned it was a sacrificial altar and some swore they could make out the blood stains:knife: !;) Too much Tizer or Vimto consumed methinks now, .....on reflection the stains were probably something like that. I hope :cool:

p.s a nice man whose name escapes me posted some recent pics of the caves on my thread "Venting ones spleen"

DtheP47 02-02-2013 02:24

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1040261)
p.s a nice man whose name escapes me posted some recent pics of the caves on my thread "Venting ones spleen"

Davemac....thanks :thankya:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/davemac43/

Somewhere in there...

dotti34 02-02-2013 05:58

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Retlaw, a bit of trivia - that gambling game sounds like Two-Up which as you probably know was played extensively by Australia’s soldiers in WW1 – then became illegal but is legalised for ANZAC Day every year. Apparently popular in England in the 18th Century - sounds like it originated there and eventually turned up at the goldfields in Oz. A fool and his money and all that....

cashman 02-02-2013 07:26

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1040261)
Ditto Mr C... caves don't have to be naturally occuring, my Collins book of big words says "an underground hollow with access to the surface...." I am sure Mr Mog will attest that a roof collapse in the mine is called a "cave-in"
Do remember the tablelike stone though, our Woodnook gang reckoned it was a sacrificial altar and some swore they could make out the blood stains:knife: !;) Too much Tizer or Vimto consumed methinks now, .....on reflection the stains were probably something like that. I hope :cool:

So yeh mean it actually wasn't a sacrificial altar???:confused::eek:

dotti34 02-02-2013 07:44

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Depends what you think of gambling - I've been known to sacrifice a bob or two in the name of it....

DtheP47 02-02-2013 10:20

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Originally Posted by pompeylass (Post 1039822)
Where is Moleside?

I've been reading the book Edwardian Accrington Observed and in it for the entry covering the King's Coronation celebrations it says that a torchlight procession went up Moleside to the bonfire an the top.

Can anyone enlighten me!

Hope you have got your answers pompeylass, we seem to have wandered off thread?
I'll try and get it back on ;)
picture this: Early hours of this morning shout from upstairs from current Mrs P "Cheese & Rice D bring that big book back and put it back under the bedleg it's like sleeping on the slopes of *expletive deleted* Moleside up here"
My reply "Well you should know my little kumquat after your last time at the Hambledon Hill Race"

Tesco Rambler 26-02-2013 21:53

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Hamledon Hill Race?
Of course not far from the cave was a Holy Well.

davemac 26-02-2013 22:31

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Gamblers caves, long gone, only lives in the memory.

Tesco Rambler 26-02-2013 23:19

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The pics are interesting, as you say 'long gone' but never expunged from memory.


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