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It isn't the Duke of Wellington but you more than make up for getting that wrong by making the family connection. The photo is from our ever increasing collection of family artefacts.
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It IS the Crown Inn, Whalley Road, though - isn't it!
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I cheated a bit - after searching through lots of websites trying to match it up I went through the photos on yours - and Eureka! I found it. No, that's not cheating - I call it using my nous and I do hate to be outdone. Actually I had thought this was the one earlier but couldn't get a photo that matched - until I went on your site.
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Just looking at today's map, I think the place is just called The Crown now, but it WAS The Crown Inn in Harry and Alice Ann's day.
By the way, I enjoyed looking at all the photos on your website, Morecambe Ex Pat. It's a great site. |
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Thanks Dotti, you are indeed correct with the Crown Inn.
I have posted the unedited photo which shows 2 distinct clues, the name of the pub and Whalley Road Accrington. If you can help identify any of the people or tell us about any of the artefacts, on the site, we would be very grateful. We are slowly working through the items and putting names to faces but it is a time consuming process. We need a few more trips down to Accrington in order to verify some information. We just hope that if they do close the libraries, that they don't just dump all the valuable work that many people have done over the years. |
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I think the Crown is the only pub owned by a football club - am I correct?
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The only people I recognise so far in your photos are the Clark family, i.e. Harry, Betty (Elizabeth), Jack, Irene and Frank, and Harry's mother. Betty was the sister of my husband's mother. I'll get his nibs to have a look also.
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Dotti - Any help you can give would be appreciated. If you register as a member, you have access to the interactive family tree section which is interesting.
Bob Dobson - You may well be right although there may by others - I do not know. If pub would like a high res version of the photo, they would be more than welcome but I looked at the Crown's website and there doesn't seem to be much of it working. |
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The Church Commercial is now flattened RIP
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Which brewery owned the Spread Eagle on Blackburn Rd ? Had it ever been a Thwaites' house ?
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Great map with wonderful memories. Thank you.
I had my first ever pint at 15 years old in the Stanley Arms at the corner of Stanley St and Washington....staggering distance from the Dyers and Finishers WMC. We paid 1s and 5p for bitter served by the Grandad of one of my mates, Barry Kirby who lived further down Stanley St. My Grandma live a couple of houses further up Stanley St. Not sure if you have this on your map. Ken |
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I have come across an 1845 reference to the New Inn, Blackburn Rd Where was this > |
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One day, I'll mention a place in Acc where Cashy hasn't worked.
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Altham has long been regarded as a suburb of Accrington, even though it was in Burnley Rural District Council area until 1974, It is unlikely that The Walton Arms has been mentioned on here before.
I have long wondered why the pub is so called. Today I found out. I was reading an 1844 gazetteer of the county, and Altham's entry tells that the place has 349 inhabitants and the church of St James is a perpetual curacy with an income of £117, its patron being Mr RTW Walton, Esq. What do we know about him ? |
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Richard Thomas Wroe Walton is mentioned in the British History website. He died unmarried in 1845.
Townships: Altham | British History Online Mark |
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I have added The Walton Arms and also added another venue, dear to many of our hearts, Martholme Grange. If you think of any more, please let me know.
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I have also added a picture of The Crown on Whalley Road from back in the 1930s when a member of our family, Henry Docksey, was Landlord, he took over from Charles Cooper.
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Just spent ages reading thro this old thread, and it brings up a question or two or three, one I asked Dobbo years ago, the Railway pub on Blackburn Rd facing Eagle St was in existance before the railways came to Acc in the middle 1840's, What was its name, don't think Dobbo came up with the answer.
Donkeys years ago when I was indexing parish registrs and the local census returns, I started to create a list of all the names of Yards, Courts, Terraces. Ginnals, Back streets, Pubs, Clubs and ale houses, by that I mean any premisis that sold Camel Pee and needed a licence, I think Doobo borrowed it once fur summat, not sure where it is now appen int library. Final question mainly for Cashy how many Atlantic Oceans have you drank an peed during your life. I can just imagine when they put you in your final resting place, you'l have a pint glass in each hand, and your coffin lined with bottles of your favourite tipple. Just a pity coffin lid won't be big enough to have the names of all your drinking holes on it. Long may ye drink yu owd swigger. http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...cons/icon7.gifhttp://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...cons/icon7.gifhttp://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...cons/icon7.gif |
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Near mind am tekin oer fro yon Satan wen mi times up, so tha con eve a top job wen tha comes, tha con be me trident bearer, an tha prod them as we dom't think are sufferin enough. I've already geet a lot o names on me list, appen tha con add some more. |
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Several properties round where I live no longer have their original deeds, and the have no idea who the original owner or builder was or when they were built. |
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I hasten to point out the correct spelling is whelks.
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Where can I buy nerve agent ?
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I have seen a reference to The Red Lion pub which used to be in the old PC Tubes building in Abbey Street, does this ring any bells?
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As previously mentioned what we need is a website dedicated to our pubs and club - there is a superb one on Preston pubs. |
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Tyre place? The building I was referring to is at the top of Black Abbey Street.
I did create a list of pubs with the help of some members on here but it clearly isn't complete. See the 'Accrington Pubs Link', in my signature. |
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Yes - top of Black Abbey. It was built to cash in on travellers using the new turnpike, mid- 1700s.
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By the way Klarkson was an Accringto Stanley director when the club folded up. Cheers |
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Are you not thinking of George Clarke Motorcycles They had a place across from Hope & Anchor I don't remember a tyre place there - I think before the motorbike shop it was Taylor Bros. garage.
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I Think this is/was the building we are talking about
http://www.accringtonweb.com/gallery...bey-Street.jpg As said, it is on the corner of Abbey St. and Black Abbey Street. Cheers |
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Unless the building to the side with railings is part of the old pub . there's no evidence of a cellar, though of course it could have been accessed round the back. That building having the same painted windows may indicate that it was part of the pub.
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No it was definitely George Clarkson who had the tyre business.
This lovely man lived across the Street from my Grandma....back in the early fifties. He lost his wife, they had no children....then he went on to marry a Nurse who worked at Accrington Victoria(I only ever knew her as Sister Clarkson....it was not the done thing for students to get pally with the senior staff) George went on to have a good handful of sons(I cannot remember now whether there were 4 or 6 of them...but they were his pride and joy) I used to see Sr Clarkson about town, she was tall and had a very upright bearing. I have not seen her for a couple of years now...so not sure if she is no longer with us. I know she was a good bit younger than George. |
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I think I remember it being the Red Lion pub...I am sure my grandad used to go in there for a pint of mild....mind you it is a long long time ago....maybe 1950/51.
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The building was the Red Lion, then became Clarksons Tyres, then it became Marnita Automatics, owned by a top bloke, think he was called Arnold, sold and did up pin tables and the like, his wife owned Ednas Cafe further down Abbey St, just lower than the Canine Club, used to go in yon daily.
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Arnold used to come in Ednas and sort the machines in the back out if they were playing up.
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I'm pretty sure the building with the arched doorway (and guy standing outside) at one time was a computer/pc shop and I'm also almost sure that Marnita you entered by the door to the left of the railings on the far left:
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Before it was Marnita, it was PV tubes, suppliers of valves and electrical components, mainly to the TV trade but also to electronic hobbyists such as me. It was run by a woman called maybe Sylvia or Sheila, not entirely sure. It became Marnita when the bottom fell out of the TV rental market. I think they did sell computers for a while but it wasn't one of the places I dealt with after they ditched the components.
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You might know Cashy, didnt George Clarkson used to be a director of Stanley(the original Stanley)
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I mentioned this in an earlier message on page 16. Cheers |
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I have written to the Hyndburn Local History Society to try to interest it in making a serious study of the borough's pubs, clubs and breweries using the local newspapers held in Accrington Library. I hope the outcome will be a website along the lines of the excellent 'Preston Pubs' one. I will report back to you on here when I've had a response. I envisage it could be some months before that happens but at least I have set the ball rolling.
In connection with this subject, I would like to trace the family of the late Max Taylor, who would be in his early 80s if still alive. Max grew up around Buxton and Charter Streets. At one time he was landlord of the Antley Inn, worked for Thwaites brewery, was a policeman in Blackburn and Blackpool. On leaving Blackpool Police, he worked for a Lancaster brewery and lived in Morecambe. Made redundant by the brewery, Max became a freelance rep selling beer to free houses and guest beers to tied houses. He died several years ago leaving a widow and grown-up children. I want to trace this family in the hope that they may still have the notes that Max kept on our local pubs, clubs and breweries.. |
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