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Parents of even secondary school kids must still be relatively young themselves and be fairly savvy about the world today.

Unbelievable that complatints should arise of this nature. Pathetic.

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Apparently someone on Myspace had asked her who she would most like to meet....and she said " Dracula on a dark Sexy night" ........ and?? there are worse people in Accy you could meet than Dracula on a dark night. COME ON.

The teachers book Gabriele Caccini - the vampire gene book 1 is about a 17th century vampire who is drugged on Ecstasy by a fellow student. It has been recommended by the GOOD BOOK GUIDE.

And as for mildly erotic - Most of shakespear's were too.....

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'Hyndburn Council leader Peter Britcliffe, whose daughter attends the school in Queen's Road West, Accrington, said the revelations were shocking.'

http://www.lancashireeveningtelegrap...e_websites.php




Why? Because there is an English teacher in the borough that can write well enough actually to have her work published?

Good luck to her, and if she is disciplined it'll be outrageous.

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More bull pats. The individual is free to follow their own interests irrespective of their vocation. Most high officials are involved in some organization or other that most right minded people would find peculiar, things like the Mason’s, Rotary Clubs, Shirt lifters Supporters Club and the like. If this person was preaching sucking blood out of virgin pussy cats I’d be concerned. Live and let live. Get the person back to work.

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Just read some of the comments on that link Rind :D

Honesty...some people need a life.

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well if britcliffe thinks its shocking- thats it :rolleyes:

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sorry have to disagree , teachers are held , or should be to a higher standard than ordinary folks , and posing like a 'tart' on a web-site that is aimed mainly at younger folks is hardly responsible behaviour and sets a bad example to her young charges .

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http://www.ourstrangeworld.net/?cat=19


Coincidence, I assure you.

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...and I strongly disagree with you.

'Posing like a tart'? What on earth does that mean, or have to do with her abilities to teach?

She could look like the back end of a bus, or to use your words 'pose like a tart', if she is a good teacher she should be allowed to get on with it.

I'd think it was great if I was being taught by a published author. It would show that anyone can do anything if they set their mind to it.

I think she should be applauded, for literally teaching that anything is possible.

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So would you not employ a single mother, or a divorcee, regardless of their abilities to teach, because they are also setting a bad example to their pupils?

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for the life in me i fail to see anything wrong, if she was advertising it etc at school that would be another matter. she was also writing under a pen-name,so wheres the problem?:confused:

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Its pathetic that shes had to temporarily give up her job just because of this, are they saying that teachers shouldnt lead a personal life and the hobbies they follow because of this.

When I was at school half the teachers were having affairs with each other and we knew all about them, did this affect our education....? NO!!!!

We read two books at school.... Junk by Melvin Burgess & Addict By Stephen Smith (this I highly recommend) they were both about drug culture and addicts and did we go out and start shooting up, of course not.

This teacher isnt reading her fiction to the pupils so whats the problem, and even if she did so what, with what teenagers watch on TV and in films these days what big deal is some vampire fiction???

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If they are a single un-wed mothers they shouldn't be teaching in schools , sets a bad example to young people , I wouldn't want a slapper teaching my kids

:D

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It means a supposedly grown woman shouldn't be posing in a provocative manner ,on a web-site used mainly by young people, some of whom are supposedly under her care (in loco parentis) what she does in her private life is her business , but dont bring it into the classroom .

Just wondering if you would have the same view if the teacher had been male and a committe member of say the BNP and had similar myspace web-site espousing his political views .

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I think she should be free to teach. Did the kids know anything about this until it went in the papers? Dont you think thats teaching the kids something - go for what ever you want - anything can be reached if you try hard enough. It's been in the national papers this week besides the accy observer.

When I was at school one of my teachers made the headlines in the accy observer ok she'd committed suicide but we had a minutes silence in school assembly for her. When it all came out what had happened that we were all told to show respect and we did.

By the way steeljack not all unwed mothers are slappers you know and no im not an unwed mother - no kids.

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she's got a hell of a lot of free publicity for selling her book .

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She used a pen name. She didn't promote her books in school. She didn't promote her website to her pupils. I really can't see where she is at fault. She has presumably fulfilled her duties as a teacher.


I find it hard to believe that a Lancashire negotiating secretary for teaching union cannot understand how a teacher can keep her job and her private life totally seperate. Personally I'd be more worried about her if she couldn't. That's when problems begin to arise when teachers involve their pupils in their private lives.

As we only have the one image of Paigan Stone to go off it's impossible to know if she was or was not 'posing like a tart' on her website but that photo looks like the sort of thing you'd get on the back of the dust jacket of the book - hardly erotic.

As for Shakepeare - hasn't there been a bit of a hoohah about Othello being studied in schools lately due to its steamy eroticism and blatantly racist content? Yet that has been standard reading for 11 - 15 year olds for donkey's years.

Unmarried mother's shouldn't teach? How does their marital status affect their teaching ability? In fact they might be a darned good role model in preference to the proliferation of chav baby producers who sit back and scrounge off the state - a real live example who can show girls that motherhood isn't a doddle and a meal ticket but a genuine commitment to a small human for many years (in fact motherhood is for life as many AccyWeb mothers can tell you)

Why should it be inappropriate for a Christian school to hire someone who writes gothic novels? They employ atheists. They employ muslims. Not all teachers at Christian schools are Christians (neither are the pupils) For all we know Samantha Goldstone may well be a Christian. It's not as if she's taking her class off for midnight orgies in graveyards is it?

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Well said Willow. I am in agreement with you.

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Er....yes, I would still have the same views. Although I find them distasteful, the BNP is a legally recognised party in this country. What other interests a teacher has outside of school is their business, as long as it doesn't affect their work as teachers. They can spend their weekends running around muddy fields dressed as Adolf Hitler or Charles the first for all I care, as long as they fulfil their obligations in the classroom.

Peter Britcliffe taught at my primary school whilst I was there, although he didn't teach me. I presume he had an interest in politics even way back then. It didn't affect his abilities to teach. The pupils he taught, including my brother, loved him, and thought he was a great teacher. I don't remember any outrage because he perhaps spent his weekends canvassing for Ted Heath.

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Why cant they let the lass get on with her job, theres to many sad folk
with small minds that want there 5mins of fame. what this lady does in her private life . should be just that PRIVATE. As for what P B, as to say its just anotherexcuse to see his name in the paper.:xena_bana

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I hope your joking about this!!!

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Absolutely correct - and according to the report she did exactly that - kept it her own business and didn't bring it into the classroom. Unless you know something we don't know which was not reported in the papers. :confused:

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I cant beleive the attitude of some people especially the attitude of some negative responses of attitude here. The amount of people have the audacity to moan about single parents actually do a proffession yet also 1st to judge the stereotype of one also - which i find highly insulting!! I so hope those comments were a joke steeljack for actually conforming to stereotypes suggest a lack of knowledge of those lifestyles - I so hope u dont become a full time single parent because then u would have a shock, the reality is far different than the stereotype & how these stereotypes actually prejudice these people in society & now employment !! As un wed singles are not all slappers either - notice he didnt mention male singletons ?!?! - why do some of them not sleep about either?!?!?!

Personally if a person can do the job they are employed to do then didly do about what they do when they are in their own time as long as that wasn't criminal or harmful. This person the thread is based about wrote a publication in her own time, & agree with comments many has said, that she hasnt blagged it to her pupils until the LET did mmm their responsiblity now for that, she has acheived something that others can inspire on that fact. Oooh btw steeljack, our very own Harry Potter writer JK Rowling is a single parent of 3 [?] wrote her books in her spare time - so was she not capable or a bad influence to society???

As with many beaurocrats should be more concerned with good eductaion & other more worrying aspects of that.

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I'm an un-wed single mother and I certainly dont sleep around. the situation i've got myself into certainly doesnt affect my job in anyway. I'm not a teacher but if I was it wouldnt affect that. It can only be good for your child to have a parent whos a teacher cant it. So Steeljack please dont start spouting rude and hurtful things about before you know anything about the people who are going through the situation!!

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LOL why do people think its a life choice :confused:

I must be low of the low one certainly church school wise as im a divorced single parent but didnt stop me pursuing being a teaching assistant, in fact that benefitted some of the kids there who did come from split homes because i can identify with them & problems the face because of it that can get overlooked by teachers whom hasnt experienced the situation themselves, also helped educationally those kids because their situation at home may of hindered them:). Teachers & staff should represent the good cut of all crosses of society & catering that:D

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Ironic, isn't it, how many of the folks who complain about single mothers on the dole also wish to deny them one of the careers that would best enable them to both make a living and care for their kids outside of school hours.

Funny how they don't seem at all concerned about the single dads in the same way!

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This story has even made the Washington Post!

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbe...vampire_1.html

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Steeljack doesn't seem all that keen on defending his pitiful argument;maybe he is at the library stocking up on vampire books !;)
(oh and Steeljack,don't think it would be wise to attend a meet if you are ever over here;us "slappers" don't forgive or forget!)

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I'm a single parent so I must be a male slapper. Thats the theory whats involved in the practice ? :p

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I've just ordered her book from amazon. I hope she sells millions and prospers from all this free publicity.
It's just a shame that her pupil's are going to suffer whilst she is absent from school. She is obviously a fantastic teacher judging by the amount of good comments left by past and present pupils on the telegraph's website.
Good luck to you Mrs Goldstone, your senior management team, union and govenors should be backing you, writing a fictional book is not illegal or innapropriate.

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Quite agree, Willow, the school should be happy to have an English teacher who's also a published novelist working in the grand literary tradition of gothic horror. As Garinda said, it must be great for her pupils to be taught English by someone who's had a book published. Personally, I would've found it really inspiring. As for the so-called "provocative" pose, if it was on the cover of Woman's Own, it wouldn't raise an eyebrow! Peter Britcliffe's comments seem amazingly narrow-minded for a council leader and as for her Union rep, I certainly wouldn't like to have her protecting my rights! Perhaps the problem is that she breaks the mould and small-minded people feel threatened by her individuality.

As for you, Steeljack, I must admit I was surprised by your comments, as I had you down as a fairly tolerant sort of bloke. Many years ago before I met her, my missus was a single mum who brought up two daughters, while following a career and made a success of both. I would love to hear you call her a "slapper" to her face. Don't think you'd do it a second time!

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I think this lady deserves a pat on the back for going ahead and getting the book published, I hope it becomes a best seller. Those who condem her for her activities on the web in her OWN time should remember she is an individual and it seems quite a talented writer, move with the times we are in 2007, and "fangs ain't what they used to be".

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its an opinion! and yer entitled to it steeljack, but it certainly surprised me. never had you down as narrow-minded.:(

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just what iwas going to type i would have loved a teacher with a bit of individuality some teachers get stuck in a rut individualism makes the world go round;)

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I would probably vote for him, it might have been a better choice than the last election, I had to choose between Tory (Peter Britcliffe) , Labour (Gayle Knight) and Lib Dem (Bill Greene).

Like Rindy says 'I always back a winner' oops I forgot he didn't that time :p

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Ouch :(

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I hope Romps doesn't get into trouble at school.

What with her being married to a grand wizard...who made all the pets in Rhydding's Park disappear.:D

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Pity the site was not still on, wouldnt have minded seeing that!

this is the 21st century for heavens sake!!

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She'll only get in trouble if she writes a book about him.... and his activities.:eek:
:cool: By the way Romps, if you get extra time off school then I want some as well. You can tell them that I helped you co-write it. See you on Monday.;)

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Maybe you could get suspended for posting on AccyWeb - especially in the over 18s section ;)

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Yes, I'm still not sure if that picture Neil posted of that little wrinkled pink thing, really is a baby rabbit.:eek:
:D

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Can't believe you made this remark steeljack .. out of character methinks.
I have been a divorced single mother since my son was 4 years old; my divorced daughter from her daughter being 1 day old. Between juggling job in Manchester, reciprocated baby-sitting, time-table with no free time .. single mum's do not have time to become slappers .... :D Hmmph I wish.

As for this young teacher, 'fraid sitting on the fence at the moment 'til I know more. Think it is correct should be a subject of investigation, after all, rather obsessive off-beat subject, isn't it ? Sure all is well though.

On the flip side, if the school did not look into this rather weird pastime of this teacher, and any of her pupils were affected in anyway tragically, then we would be all blaming the lack of questioning by the school wouldn't we? Can't have it both ways.

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Steeljack hasn't been seen since he posted that.

I think aliens must have taken over his body.

He is normally quite the liberal...he's even seen Barbara Streisand in San Francisco for goodness sake.:D

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okay folks maybe I was just having an off day , but all i said was,..... that I didn't think that a single unwed mother was a good role model for young people , I did not say anything about one parent families (partner deceased) or divorced single parents.
Maybe its non PC or old fashioned way of thinking but I still have reservations about any single unmarried woman wanting to raise a child without a partner (male or female)
Its difficult enough for a 'regular' family these days so its got to be twice as difficult for a lone parent to raise a child .



just a note to the folks who advised me to stay away from the monthly meet-up , remember your in a line behind the chap who doesn't approve of my liberal views on another subject :D :D :D

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How obscure can it be when some schools are actually studying Bram Stoker's Dracula and Mary Shelly's Frankenstein as part of the curriculum?

My daughter is doing Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men" which contains seduction, murder and a brothel and is an incredibly emotive novel.

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Something of a generalization there, Steeljack. I know of many unmarried women (apart from my wife) who have brought up children singlehandedly and made a fantastic job of it. One friend of ours raised her son entirely on her own - he's a sound lad who has just finished university and is set for a good career. I also know of married couples who aren't fit to look after hamsters.

But the fact is that this teacher is married. She's also, apparently, very good at her job. But because she's doesn't fit the conventional mould, she's being persecuted for it. Presumably, if her interests were cake baking and flower arranging, there'd be no problem. I'm beginning to think I'm in a "Life On Mars"-type scenario and I've gone back to 1907!

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I'm single, have never been married am bringing my child up on my own. I have 7 teenage cousins, so are you saying that i'm a bad role model to them????

It is!! But I manage very well. And off my own back.

At the end of the day though this teacher isnt single and un-wed, I think her son is very lucky having a published writer and teacher as a mother. He should be proud!! As should her husband. Her fiction that she writes, really isnt my thing but it is some peoples, and I hope she does very, very well out of all the publicity. So that if (god fobid) she does loose her job, she can provide well for her son off being a published writer. Good Luck to you Ms. Goldstone.

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Oh I bloody loved that book when I was reading it at school. It always had me crying when he had to shoot his own dog.:(

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Still dont see the difference, many are left with no choice - they get dumped or left for someone else or the other partner [male & female these days] walk out for their own selfish reasons leaving the kids & thus the single parent is born married or not, so really cannot see why that person is discriminated for their circumstances more than happens anyway. You are still basing on a typical stereotype that many fantastic single parents are judged by & u dont realise how insulting & hurtful that is to them!!

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I agree Mel.

I still think whatever the circumstances of a teacher's private or home life, it has nothing to do with their abilities to be a good teacher.

The masters at my old school could have been married, single, transvestites, or even practising Tories for all I cared. The fact is we neither knew, nor cared what they did outside of school. We judged them on their ability to teach. Which apparently this teacher at St. Christopher's appears to do very well, judging by the comments of some of her students.

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Well thro all of this Ms Goldstone has left her post at St Chris's

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...cher_quits.php

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How sad, I had heard she was THE best teacher in the school - very inspiring were the words used :(

Suz x.

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Seeing as you are talking about QEGS they were probably all of the above and more ;) . Like you say it does not matter. How they act in school is what matters.

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well if P.B. thinks this is the best outcome, let him not be hypocritical with this licensing commitee. ;) somehow i aint holding me breath.

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Hyndburn Council leader Peter Britcliffe, whose daughter attends the school in Queen's Road West, Accrington, said: "This is a really sad story, but this is probably the best outcome.

You Pratt Peter. The best outcome would have been for this never to become an issue in the first place, since it did become a public matter it would have been appropriate as a parent of a pupil to stand up and be counted and show that there is no place in our schools for narrow minded inflexible never do wells. All this now coming on the back of yet another sex pest on the streets providing transport to the public, what faith should the voting public have in the borough council?

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I think it is very sad the the borough has lost someone who seemed a very talented teacher.:(

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I just had to post this comment from the Washington Post. It could only come from someone called 'Chuck' :D

I am interested to know if all American female teachers have to be ugly old mingers so that the male students do not sit there in a state of arousal all day and not pay attention to what is being taught. ;)

Then again we are talking about America so they might just have passed such a law.

I do feel very sorry for the lady in question. The way this story has been reported is so unfair. I wish her MySpace site was still up so we could make our minds up for ourselves.

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"... probably the best outcome...."

translates as 'probably the best outcome for him because he doesn't actually have to print his views or take a stand'. :D

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wonder who snitched on her in the first place??

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Theres always some do goodin low life that wants abit o fame, yet again we have lost more talant. :Banane57: