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katex 23-05-2008 22:42

The Coppice Shelter
 
Covered in many threads I know, but seems that in the planned Peel Park revamp, the shelter is earmarked for removal.

A lady, Beverley Wilkins, is struggling in a one-woman fight to save this shelter. (Observer report)

Now, I have fond memories of this building, and would not like to see it go, as is lovely to sit there for a while when walking along the summit of our beloved hill.

It is a little decrepit, and not too sentimental at it being pulled down, as long as it can be replaced or modified dramatically.

Don't like to think that only one person cares about this . wondered if anyone was willing to support her.

jaysay 24-05-2008 12:24

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 580766)
Covered in many threads I know, but seems that in the planned Peel Park revamp, the shelter is earmarked for removal.

A lady, Beverley Wilkins, is struggling in a one-woman fight to save this shelter. (Observer report)

Now, I have fond memories of this building, and would not like to see it go, as is lovely to sit there for a while when walking along the summit of our beloved hill.

It is a little decrepit, and not too sentimental at it being pulled down, as long as it can be replaced or modified dramatically.

Don't like to think that only one person cares about this . wondered if anyone was willing to support her.

Does seem a shame that its being pulled down, as you say it brings back lots of memories, I fondly remember, ah better not go there:D

cashman 24-05-2008 12:34

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does seem sad, but it sure as hell needs a re-vamp, think they would do better though to remove those bloody trees.

Loz 25-05-2008 12:02

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Haha, the old bus shelter, skived from School there a few times. Good times. It's part of the coppice, they should leave it be.

lindsay ormerod 26-05-2008 18:09

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They are looking at possible renovation of it and looking into it's " heritage" status at the moment so I wouldn't hold my breath on it being demolished any time soon.

katex 26-05-2008 18:29

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 581971)
They are looking at possible renovation of it and looking into it's " heritage" status at the moment so I wouldn't hold my breath on it being demolished any time soon.

Thanks Lindsay, not living in Peel Park ward have no details, but will try and get in the Library next week to view proposals.

Understand may be a little shakey, and wouldn't like to see anyone get hurt, but if they can ensure safety aspect, then that will be great.

Like Cashy .. have many memories ... ;)

panther 26-05-2008 18:35

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I remember the shelter as a kid, after walking up the top of coppice, but for some reason i never went in it!
think most people use it as a toilet these days:(

g jones 03-06-2008 23:14

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There are two Coppice Groups. REMADE which is the one people know about funded by Govt Office NW through LCC. The second is the Peter Britcliffe monument 2009 celebration aniversary group. I think Gayle is involved with the latter. I am only involved with the former. The 2nd, TPBMCG, are proposing to demolish the shelter I am led to believe. The former have made no decisions on their masterplan. Mrs Wilkins is confused a little and keeps associating the demolition with REMADE which is misleading.

katex 03-06-2008 23:21

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 586804)
There are two Coppice Groups. REMADE which is the one people know about funded by Govt Office NW through LCC. The second is the Peter Britcliffe monument 2009 celebration aniversary group. I think Gayle is involved with the latter. I am only involved with the former. The 2nd, TPBMCG, are proposing to demolish the shelter I am led to believe. The former have made no decisions on their masterplan. Mrs Wilkins is confused a little and keeps associating the demolition with REMADE which is misleading.

Cheers Graham, the Observer report appeared a little puzzling after Garinda and I visited the library to look at the proposals, which just seemed to imply that the LCC were looking at remade/maintained.

garinda 03-06-2008 23:50

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Yes from the display in the Library, re: the plans for the Peel Park area, it appears that the shelter is to be maintained, and repaired.

All to be applauded.

katex 03-06-2008 23:55

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 586810)
Yes from the display in the Library, re: the plans for the Peel Park area, it appears that the shelter is to be maintained, and repaired.

All to be applauded.

Oh yeh, 'repaired' .. that was the word ... knew it began with an 'r'. Good job, someone pays attention... :D

garinda 04-06-2008 00:00

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 586811)
Oh yeh, 'repaired' .. that was the word ... knew it began with an 'r'. Good job, someone pays attention... :D

It nearly didn't rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroll of my tongue either.

Nearly wrote refurbished, which makes it sound as if it's going to get plush velveteen seats and a mirror ball...but it was definitely repaired.:D

katex 04-06-2008 00:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 586812)
It nearly didn't rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroll of my tongue either.

Nearly wrote refurbished, which makes it sound as if it's going to get plush velveteen seats and a mirror ball...but it was definitely repaired.:D

Now, there's an idea ! At least wouldn't get bench burns anymore ..LOL.

Whoops sorry to bring the tone down on what is a serious subject.

katex 12-06-2008 16:38

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R.I.P. Coppice shelter ...:s_cry: Thanks for the memories .. :D

See they have bulldozed it ... ah well, suppose if it wasn't safe. :(

garinda 12-06-2008 16:54

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 591595)
R.I.P. Coppice shelter ...:s_cry: Thanks for the memories .. :D

See they have bulldozed it ... ah well, suppose if it wasn't safe. :(


Is that's whats meant by 'repaired and made safe'.:confused:

katex 12-06-2008 17:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591600)
Is that's whats meant by 'repaired and made safe'.:confused:

Must be a different language .. probably Southerners, who have a more flowery way of speaking.

Says plans to build a new one ... not saying when.

Gayle 12-06-2008 17:06

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 586804)
There are two Coppice Groups. REMADE which is the one people know about funded by Govt Office NW through LCC. The second is the Peter Britcliffe monument 2009 celebration aniversary group. I think Gayle is involved with the latter. I am only involved with the former. The 2nd, TPBMCG, are proposing to demolish the shelter I am led to believe. The former have made no decisions on their masterplan. Mrs Wilkins is confused a little and keeps associating the demolition with REMADE which is misleading.

As far as I am aware or concerned, the memorial celebration is absolutely nothing to do with any work that is being done on the Coppice - it will simply be a celebration at the end of it (to celebrate the centenary of the Coppice being handed over to the people of Accrington).

The celebration will involve an exhibition, workshops and a celebratory parade.

I know nothing about any demolition or renovation - as you say Graham, it is REMADE that are working on the masterplan!

WillowTheWhisp 12-06-2008 18:03

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Well that's a very funny way of renovating something unless it was absolutely impossible to do for safety reasons.

Does anyone know the history of the Coppice? A friend of mine is convinced it wasn't always called that.

flashy 12-06-2008 18:07

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just read about it in't th'observer but my question is....are they going to cut back the weeds and the tree's that are blocking the paths upto the coppice?

katex 12-06-2008 18:15

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 591643)


Does anyone know the history of the Coppice? A friend of mine is convinced it wasn't always called that.

Well, this is a coincidence, think Garinda and I met your friend whilst we were in the library ... said he knew you , asked the same question. He is probably correct and was just a lump on the Pennine moors originally.

Asked Bob Dobson, don't think he was quite sure when it became the Coppice either.

katex 12-06-2008 18:18

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 591646)
just read about it in't th'observer but my question is....are they going to cut back the weeds and the tree's that are blocking the paths upto the coppice?

Some improvement of footpaths and thinning of the trees seems to be included in the Peel Park project Flashy... guess this covers what you are asking.

No.9 Dream 12-06-2008 18:37

Shelter on the Coppice RIP
 
I see the civic vandals have finally removed the one source of shelter up the coppice for dog walkers and those who just want to take a stroll.

I was up there today with the dog to see workman just finishing bulldozing the old place to the ground and removing rubble in a small dumper truck.

Its been a feature of my many walks for too many years to recall and I for one will miss the old place.

And before any one goes on about drug talking and underage drinking on the coppice I would just like to point out that if those factors alone were any criteria for reducing something to rubble well there wouldnt be much left of accrington itself as well as the lower level parks and playing fields and secondly three quarters of those who might indulge in such activities would be too idle to get up there.

RIP the coppice shelter

flashy 12-06-2008 18:42

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ah thats great then Kate, i may have to make a few trips over to Accy now to show Reece the Coppice

accyman 12-06-2008 18:46

Re: Shelter on the Coppice RIP
 
lol the amount of action that shelter saw im surprised it wasnt listed as a brothell

magaz 12-06-2008 21:00

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eee I'd be proper sad if the bus stop went! I've had many good times sitting on the roof of that place haha :)

WillowTheWhisp 12-06-2008 21:07

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 591656)
Well, this is a coincidence, think Garinda and I met your friend whilst we were in the library ... said he knew you , asked the same question. He is probably correct and was just a lump on the Pennine moors originally.

Asked Bob Dobson, don't think he was quite sure when it became the Coppice either.

All I could tell him was that I've never known it as anything else and I don't think my Dad ever mentioned it being anything else but he did call the land at the Baxenden end Moleside.



katex 12-06-2008 21:08

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Originally Posted by magaz (Post 591886)
eee I'd be proper sad if the bus stop went! I've had many good times sitting on the roof of that place haha :)

What bus stop Magaz ? :D If you mean the shelter, read the thread LOL .. it's gone ! Kapow, finito, flattened, zonked, etc., etc.,

MargaretR 12-06-2008 21:24

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The name Coppice is derived from the South African word for little hill - copje
So it may have been named by soldiers returning from the Boer War

Neil 12-06-2008 21:43

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 586804)
There are two Coppice Groups. REMADE which is the one people know about funded by Govt Office NW through LCC. The second is the Peter Britcliffe monument 2009 celebration aniversary group. I think Gayle is involved with the latter. I am only involved with the former. The 2nd, TPBMCG, are proposing to demolish the shelter I am led to believe. The former have made no decisions on their masterplan. Mrs Wilkins is confused a little and keeps associating the demolition with REMADE which is misleading.


By mentioning the name Peter Britcliffe you have turned what could have been a useful and informative post into a political dig as usual. Why not just give us the information without resorting to Political moaning? I am sure most of us would prefer it that way.

accyman 12-06-2008 22:17

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it wouldnt be so bad if he logged in to do somthing other than bitch and moan about PB and the torys every now and then

i dont liek either PB's tactics or the torys but jesus christ theres a limit to how much i can listen to somone moan about them

cashman 12-06-2008 23:30

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Kilroy will be turning in his grave now the shelters gone,:D

No.9 Dream 13-06-2008 03:05

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and they will never stop the Gulf War

Gayle 13-06-2008 08:28

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Just to clarify the 2009 Centenary Project.

Next year is the 100 year anniversary of when the Peel family handed over the Coppice to the people of Accrington. We are going for a lottery grant to hold a celebratory event to mark this. The event will be the culmination of a three month programme of workshops, exhibitions and activities which will focus around the history and usage of the Coppice. It will also be a fitting celebration of the work that is being done.

The two groups should not be working seperately.

The Celebration group has absolutely nothing to do with any of the work that is being done up there at the moment. The only people working up there now are those involved in the REMADE scheme. Whether they are directly involved with REMADE or are part of HBC and therefore working alongside REMADE, I don't know, but surely Graham you would have the facts to hand about this as you're so involved.

katex 13-06-2008 08:37

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 592125)

The Celebration group has absolutely nothing to do with any of the work that is being done up there at the moment. The only people working up there now are those involved in the REMADE scheme. Whether they are directly involved with REMADE or are part of HBC and therefore working alongside REMADE, I don't know, but surely Graham you would have the facts to hand about this as you're so involved.

Reading the Observer Gayle, looks like the Parks Department that were responsible for this decision. Just wondered if they would have to consult anyone on the council before demolition ... after all was a place that was dear to all our hearts.

cashman 13-06-2008 10:19

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 592127)
Reading the Observer Gayle, looks like the Parks Department that were responsible for this decision. Just wondered if they would have to consult anyone on the council before demolition ... after all was a place that was dear to all our hearts.

as well as other organs.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Neil 13-06-2008 12:02

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 592127)
Reading the Observer Gayle, looks like the Parks Department that were responsible for this decision. Just wondered if they would have to consult anyone on the council before demolition ... after all was a place that was dear to all our hearts.

Just phone the Parks Dept manager Craig Horabin on 356200. I am sure he will answer all your questions as to why and who authorised the removal of the shelter. You will then very quickly have all the facts to hand before this thread turns into another political rampage.

I look forward to reading your report later.

I suspect if you ask him nicely he will let you have a brick from the shelter to put on your mantle piece to remind you of the good times you had up there ;)

katex 13-06-2008 12:04

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 592169)
as well as other organs.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Brrrrr .. wonder it didn't drop off up there .... :eek:

cashman 13-06-2008 12:43

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 592208)
Brrrrr .. wonder it didn't drop off up there .... :eek:

True would hate me ears to drop off, be knackered fer wearing me glasses.:D

accyman 13-06-2008 14:30

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 592208)
Brrrrr .. wonder it didn't drop off up there .... :eek:

not with the right equiptment

wooly hat

mittens

willy warmer:D

jaysay 13-06-2008 16:04

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 591959)
By mentioning the name Peter Britcliffe you have turned what could have been a useful and informative post into a political dig as usual. Why not just give us the information without resorting to Political moaning? I am sure most of us would prefer it that way.

Well I have tried to tell you about this guy, every time he has anything to say he has to mention PB irrespective of what it is about. Oh by the way Neil which post he made is none political, you said there was one:D

magpie 13-06-2008 16:40

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I really can't think of any areas in and around the town that I would feel safe walking alone in....

used to go all over the place when I was a kid... not anymore:

katex 13-06-2008 16:43

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 592207)
Just phone the Parks Dept manager Craig Horabin on 356200. I am sure he will answer all your questions as to why and who authorised the removal of the shelter. You will then very quickly have all the facts to hand before this thread turns into another political rampage.

I look forward to reading your report later.

I suspect if you ask him nicely he will let you have a brick from the shelter to put on your mantle piece to remind you of the good times you had up there ;)

No way am I going to make this thread political Neil .. just reporting facts and wondering also who had the final decision.

Had to go out so didn't make that 'phone call .. did a quick E-mail which has been passed on to the Planning Department (so could have come from there).
Mind you, if anything like the last E-mail I sent this department ... still waiting after a couple of months for a reply ... :rolleyes:

Neil 13-06-2008 18:01

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 592298)
No way am I going to make this thread political Neil .. just reporting facts and wondering also who had the final decision.

The idea of finding out and reporting the facts was to stop it turning into a political farce Kate. Then you could have reported real facts, not the Observers facts ;).

katex 13-06-2008 18:47

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 592339)
The idea of finding out and reporting the facts was to stop it turning into a political farce Kate. Then you could have reported real facts, not the Observers facts ;).

Not disagreeing with ya' at all Neil .. we do tend to trust that the media has done their research, however, personally, I don't think you can say I have not tried to find out from 'the horses mouth' so to speak.

Good advice... would give you some karma .. but ya' got too much.. :D

Looks like may have to wait until Monday now for an answer (if any). I really don't think it would have been too much of a hassle to be honest, to send me a quick answer .. sure they are not inundated in the Planning Department with small queries from the Public. :(

Neil 13-06-2008 19:26

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 592372)
Good advice... would give you some karma .. but ya' got too much.. :D


I will remember to say that to you about Bacardi when I see you at the next meet :p:D

garinda 13-06-2008 19:28

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 592391)
I will remember to say that to you about Bacardi when I see you at the next meet :p:D

Very funny.:p

Karma sent on Kate's behalf.

Neil 14-06-2008 01:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 592393)
Very funny.:p

Karma sent on Kate's behalf.

Thanks mate, Kates just 'orrid :D


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