will they ban the ban???
 

I saw a local M.P on T.V this week he was saying that the government should re think the smoking ban as it is considered to be one of the factors of the 35 pubs a week shutting down, I agree with him, but i also think that the government should re think the vat on beer and spirits. and what was wrong with the old smoke rooms . what does everyone else think?

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Well I'm a none smoker so it didn't effect me, but I didn't mind other people smoking so long as they weren't lowing smoke in my face. I've just heard that the ale at my favourite watering hole has just gone up about 15p, looks like Stella from ASDA is still the best bet. as for lifting the smoking ban, since when did this poxy government hold their hands up and say they made a mistake, they just blame the ban on every body but themselves

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Okay,the government brought in the ban without consulting the people who helped vote them in.A democatic country no more...you do as we wish.I cant believe the smokers of this country just let it happen,or some compromise was reached (i.e as abroad...landlords discretion,seperate smoking room etc).Smoking related illness' strain on NHS? Hells bells seen casualty at weekends due to drink related violence & injuries or wards with drink related illness'.You dont get smokers being paid for their addiction (alcoholics get money towards drink,i'm led to believe,on DHSS)Bottom line...the government were under pressure to either sacrifice tax from drink or fags & drink won(in a nutshell).Just me throwing my 2 cents in,if it does'nt make much sense.

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I had a complaint made to me today, by a non smoker, he said 'It wasnt so bad when people smoked in the pub, but there is nothing worse than the smoke at the entrance to a pub! It is overpowering getting in the door, roll on when they change the rules back!'

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I doubt that the government will overturn the ban....when did they ever do anything that was popular?
when did they ever take notice of what the voters want?
maybe when all the public houses have gone to the wall, and it is too late they will wake up and realise that this could have been dealt with in a different way.

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i agree with margaret, they are too thick to take popular action, Spain,Greece,etc carry on merrily ignoring it, its like sod the E.U. whats best fer us.:rolleyes: but our lot will die of stupidity.

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But which side is most popular? Smoking or not smoking?

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Well as far as I can see all the non-smokers who were saying they would use licensed premises once the smoking ban was introduced don't seem to be sticking to their word.:rolleyes: I follow the rules and smoke outside but very rarely go out now. It does get on my wick when folk start complaining about people smoking in the streets but hey ho some people just like moaning:)

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Easy to find out,have smoking and none smoking pubs and see who is still in business in a years time.:drunk::smokin:

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this would have been the sensible option in the first place as it has worked in spain/catalonia for years. Those premises wishing to allow smoking apply for a smoking license and when granted a sign must be placed in the entrance for potential customers to see that smoking is allowed.
It is about time the law was abolished for as far as i'm concerned it's a down-right breach of a smokers human rights.

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Apparently smoking is still permitted in one of the House of Commons bars???????
Since the smoking ban on airlines there are far more incidents of chest complaints/colds etc. They used to use 3 air scrubbers and take in a greater percentage of fresh air. Now they take in far less air and don't use 3 air scrubbers - saves fuel and therefore makes more money for the airlines

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Barrie, you're wasting your time, the 'real', none smoker's won't admit the whole ban thing, has done them any harm, they will continue to be smug about something they kept away from.

Most of them aren't very social anyway.


(watch this space).
:D

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Yes Less, I gave up bothering a long time ago. Just stick a patch on if I am on a long haul flight and I was used to meetings of 6 hours or so which were non-smoking, so it has never bothered me.

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get our m.p. greg pope to raise it in parliament if he wins will be more popular than war time winston

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to say the demise of the local boozer is all because of the smoking ban is rubbish...I smoke and if I fancy a pint a smoking ban has never stopped me...in fact I don't know of anyone that has stopped going to the pub because they'd rather stay indoors and smoke!...it's not a very big factor in pubs closing.

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It is quite a few degrees warmer where you are - which makes smoking outside less unpleasant

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I have sat outside with the smokers at AccyWeb meets several times and I am not a smoker. It is nice to walk into a pub though and it not smell of fags. Its also nice to be able to go home afterwards and not smell of them. I know that is something that smokers probably don't notice, if you do you wont notice as much. Its a bit like walking into a stinky dodgy smell house, the owners don't often notice how stinky their house is.

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ah well this time next year there is likely to be a Tory Government and they can revoke the ban... will they be a "poxy" government if they don't revoke?

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That will depend on how many tory MPs are big share holders in breweries and tobacco companies.

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well our ex-prime minister thatcher and her minister ken clarke are big shareholders in tobacco...but then Mr Cameron is the leader of the new Tory party and the grass will be greener and we will all live in paradise! :rolleyes:

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Shows your learning Mancie, its always better where the Tories are:D:D:D

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ahh but hes a fake greenie

he cycles to work and has a car follow him with his papers so publicly he will stand for the smoking ban but abolish it and claim he had no knowlege of it happening until an email gets leaked saying different

i think thats how polotics works anyway :)

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If the next Toy Government were to rescind all the nonsense legislation passed by this shower they'd being spinning, I think there will be far more important things to do like finding out how to repay the £2 Trillion debt run up by Incapability Brown and his useless Little Darling:p

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Not quite sure if I approve of this :-

‘No cigs’ plea to Accrington school parents (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Even if the mothers who smoke at the school gates are shamed into not smoking there, they will only light up once they get in the car. Think also is encouraging a type of vigilante society and possible 'controversy' between the kids whose parents don't smoke and those who do.

They'll have signs 'advising' about 4 x 4's, obesity and alcohol soon.

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Well if the parents smoke in the car or house with the kids present they obviously don't care about the health of their children. Maybe by trying to shame them like this it may help keep the kids smoke free.

I agree that kids from smoke free homes are less likely to become smokers than from homes with smoking parents.

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I don't disagree with you Neil .. but that was not my point. Don't think it is the right way to go about it. They are not doing anything illegal. They'll have the kids parading outside smokers' houses next with banners before we know it, which in the extreme, could lead to throwing bricks through their windows.

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They have lifted the smoking ban in the Railway..................Well Lynx thinks they have:)
We where sat in the Railway yesterday that's me,less,beniepete,tony and lynx
we all started rolling a cig ready to go outside and chatting away when suddenly there was the the smell of cigarette smoke and there was lynx happily smoking away until she was reminded you should have seen the look on her face:D:tongueout

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A teacher from mount carmel parks outside of my house every day, she pops up and sits in the car to have a smoke, presumably because she isnt allowed to smoke in the school grounds, I dont see Mt Carmel putting a banner outside my house to tell her to bog off elswhere, she has paid her road tax, so if for that reason she can park there and smoke, then what business is it of the schools if parents smoke outside school grounds?