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Oh my goodness !!! THAT STREAM !! Don't know why I didn't remember it .. who could forget meeting Tinks and her entourage for the first time ! ..... guess my stupid head has swollen over the past few years ...:silly: http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17502.gif

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Or it could be, like most of us kate, your losing those little grey cells as you get older,:D unfortunately I'm losing mine quicker than most:rolleyes:

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Sorry Retlaw - champagne for the naming ceremony cancelled:(

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I think people are getting mixed up between the stream that Margaret and I were discussing, and Antley Brook.

Attached is the first recorded reference to Antley Brook,
from the Coucher Book of Kirkstall, this reference has been dated circa 1193.

Retlaw.

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I failed Latin GCE but can see the relevance of that document.
On looking at the map from Ossy Mills the brook I was referring to is described there as Antley Syke.
I am aware that historians distort the truth for their own reasons, so the only way to resolve this is to decide by consensus what we consider it ought to be named

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[quote=MargaretR;753439]I failed Latin GCE but can see the relevance of that document.

Margaret, your lucky there were no GCE's when I left school, I knew nowt, all I got from the headmaster was the cane. Thats why I spent so much time in the library, learning, joined the library over sixty five years ago and still learning. Josie the librarian got all the latin dictionarys she could find, and I spent some hours translating it. Attached just or you is what I came up with.

Retlaw

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Thank you Retlaw.....it is clear from that document that there is and was a brook named Antley, but because I am not familiar with the locations of the other landmarks specified I am not qualified to say whether the brook that passes Laburnum Drive is the same one mentioned in that ancient document.
I guess I am destined not to know:) unless I spend effort to find out.
I will just accept that your sound knowledge of local history is most likely to provide the right answer

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I wonder how many of you recall that the original plans for Hyndburn Sports Centre, back in the 1970's, envisaged the main entrance as being facing the bottom of India Street, rather than facing Henry Street. The entire complex had to be rotated 90 degrees because the pool part would have rested over the Antley Syke just before it enters the Stink, which was deemed unacceptable.

The Sports Centre is therefore actually in Accy, with only the road entrance to, and part of the car park, being in Church, although HBC say it is in Church. That part of the car park which is now a part-time gypsy site is in Accy.

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Margaret.

I've spent the morning in my 2nd home, and found an old map (1900) which shows where the Antley Syke comes above ground, the first showing was a well near Knowles buildings, (now gone) then the lodge near Bottoms Farm. I've coloured it in blue.

Retlaw.

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Solved then :D - it is the one that passes by the corner of Laburnum Drive

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I believe it starts (or finishes) at Jacob’s Lodge, between Rough Hey and the Bedlam area of Green Haworth (top of Willows Lane) and is called Antley Syke. I’m trying to find the owner of Jacob’s Lodge, which is not recorded at HM Land Registry. There is a bit of a “local dispute” going on, and a neighbouring land owner wants to try and claim it if the owner can’t be found. I’ve contacted Mr. Peter Hargreaves of former Moscow Mill (now Oswaldtwistle Mills) who still has the big sluice key hanging in his office, but he doesn’t know who owns the Lodge. Moscow Mill was originally built by the Walmsleys, who lived at Rough Hey at the time. Jacob’s Lodge was the mill lodge for Moscow Mill and possibly for other factories such as Steiners.