Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 780545)

Katex! Where are you with your Planning Applications? Mr Dawson, can you help?

Just had a phone call from a resident of Baxenden, who lives almost facing Hilltop, which of course is now fenced off, to be demolished.
This property would appear to be either in, or next to, the grounds of Haworth Art Gallery, the "jewel in the crown" of Accrington.

Very sneekily, just a few of the houses across from the site, and a few on Newton Drive, were sent a letter just before Xmas, informing them that a 4 STOREY property for FLATS is to be built. Maybe done because they are loosing around 2 weeks at Xmas time when people have other things on their minds. Apparently anyone wishing to comment has to have a letter in by NEXT MON. Not much time eh? Someone else I have spoken to also believes this is actually in the Christ Church Conservations area, but am not sure on this point.

Anyone know anything about this?

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 780545)

Katex! Where are you with your Planning Applications? Mr Dawson, can you help?

Shucks sorry Entwisi .. did spot this .. meant to put up after their application for demolition .. was the December 25th issue after all... :o

Sorry .. as nobody commented, didn't think they were interested.

11/09/0475 Conservation area consent: Demolition of Hill Top Home For The Elderly 19/11/2009
former home for elderly and associated
buildings

Manchester Road Accrington

Mr Martyn Ellis __________________

11/09/0525 Major: Full: Demolition of former care home Former Hill Top Care Home 18/12/2009
buildings and erection of a four storey, 64 Newton Drive Accrington BB5
No. care apartments including onsite car 2PW
parking and landscaping (5191m2)
I Care Extra Care Ltd

Originally Posted by buttonsmum (Post 780665)

I know a lot of people don't buy it these days, but the Observer printed all the details regarding this application in their planning notices section a couple of weeks ago. I'm surprised there hasn't been more publicity about this being as it is creating housing for the elderly


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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 780857)

Whats the "64 Newton Drive" bit mean. Are they going to have the main entrance on Newton Drive. I wouldnt be happy if I lived on there, I must be honest.

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 784643)

Have heard this - dont know if true - there have been so many objections to the plans that the developers have been told to rethink and come back with a smaller scheme

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 784834)

This link may be of interest, one of I care extra care ltd sites

Welcome to Links View Retirement Home, Residential Care Home - Links View Mature Living

Originally Posted by katex (Post 784839)

Classy Park .. sure this company will give the building a good looking facade.

Don't know whether people realise but everytime you put in a Planning Application such as this ... will cost you about £345 for each property, therefore, the Hillside people will have paid approximately £22 >>23,000 for their current one. I think they will get it, however, will be interesting. Let us know what happens at the meeting Entwisi.

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 784849)

Originally Posted by katex (Post 784887)

The next meeting is the 10th February, but not listed on the agenda that this is up for determination .. will have to keep our beady eyes open for the March one .. 31st.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 807513)

The plans have been withdrawn.

Baxenden care home plan back to drawing board (From Blackburn Citizen)

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 807513)

The plans have been withdrawn.

Baxenden care home plan back to drawing board (From Blackburn Citizen)

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 807513)

The plans have been withdrawn.

Baxenden care home plan back to drawing board (From Blackburn Citizen)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 807587)

Have ya read the comment submitted to that link?:eek:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 807606)

Right on Cashman, what the hell are those people who work in the so called planning department doing, and why do we need a planning department
if the council have to hire consultants.
Who made the descision to hire consultants in the first place.
Retlaw.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 807688)

Planning Departments in councils are not large in the way of employing experts in all the different fields of planning my dear Lurch, housing, regeneration, environmental, transport,etc. It is more economical for them to use consultants on a short term basis than take on high maintenance employees (pensions, specialist equipment, working space, coffee machines.. LOL.. etc).

Look at it this way. An analogy would be when you visit your G.P. .. yes, a very experienced medical person who can give advice and diagnosis on lots of ailments, but sorting the problems out, then you have to be passed on to a consultant.

I think in the case of Hilltop, the council now has to look at more expert independent help in bringing this to a satisfactory conclusion. The developer wants this building, but also their investment has to be profitable. The council wants this land developed, and the residents also would prefer the land to be put to use instead of the derelict wasteland that is there at the moment.

Planners within the council have to deal with all types of planning on a daily basis but not always in depth on any particular aspect of it. Unfortunately, they do get bogged down quite a lot by Councillors queries !

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 833282)

Oh dear...it would appear from the Lancashire Telegraph that English Heritage is now opposing the redevelopment of this garage site:

Heritage row over Baxenden car home site (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Originally Posted by wadey (Post 867852)

English Heritage is a jobs for the boys set up and it's costing us millions!

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 867856)

Absolutely correct wadey, they're wonderful at spending other peoples money, like keeping that eyesore that is now Rhyddings Mill, should have been pulled down after the first fire

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 868115)

Another eyesore that they want to keep is the Hargreaves Warehouse at Church traffic lights. I know it is part of our Industrial Heritage but the cost of renovating it huge .

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 875795)

If they stick a mosque (with minaret) up one corner, it would an excellent asylum centre for Afgans and Iraqis.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 875799)

Kate, I would go further than that, and say it is an eyesore....the derelict building looks better than the one they plan to build.
Hideous!

Originally Posted by katex (Post 875801)

Can't understand the red brick at all as surrounding buildings up there are of a stone nature (sorry, don't know technical term), you know what I mean though, I'm sure.

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 875812)

Don't think they are red brick kate, look similar to the bricks used on the existing building.
Suggestion - why don't they leave the existing buildings up do a complete internal strip out including all internal walls and start again using the existing building shell just as they would coverting an old mill to flats, would that not solve all the problems. :D

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 875812)

Don't think they are red brick kate, look similar to the bricks used on the existing building.
Suggestion - why don't they leave the existing buildings up do a complete internal strip out including all internal walls and start again using the existing building shell just as they would coverting an old mill to flats, would that not solve all the problems. :D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 875972)

Have you ever been in one of these purpose built homes for the elderly Park, would think it would be a none starter, just like Peel House was in Ossy

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876070)

Have been in a lot of purpose built homes for the elderly in Lancashire, that is why I said do a complete internal strip out. All the homes were built on a "unit" size, take out the inside and your left with a good shell, did you mean Peel Court in ossy? that was a different style to Acorn Lodge and Hill Top. Peel Court was similar style to Woodlands at C-L-M.In saying all that Peel Court provided excellent care for the elderly during the time it was open, as did Hill Top.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876193)

Must agree, I used to be on the inspection team for LCC Social Services Liaison committee, but Peel Court would not have been suitable to stripe out, it was a two story building, I honestly can't see what anybody would use it for, which was highlighted by the fact that nobody seemed to want it

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876202)

The sheltered housing further down union road is no different, Peel Court could have been adapted, but I think at the time LCC were selling off a lot of
property.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876216)

Nobody wanted it, I'm sure if it could have been adapted somebody would have come along and bought for that purpose Park, as I said I've been round this home on many occasions I wouldn't have liked to even try myself and I have a good building trade background

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876221)

only thing wrong was the location, but it served a purpose at the time

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876224)

Ya it was purpose built but unsuitable for anything else

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876227)

It provided a home for a lot of elderly

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876230)

That's the purpose it was built for Park:D

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876233)

It could have been put to other uses, other than demolish it, I could think of several, but it may not have suited local residents :D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876320)

They probable couldn't get a suitable madam to run the shop Park:D mind you don't think the folk in Ossy are too keen on broth these days either:D

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876344)

Twisted minds !!! no I was thinking of a fibre glass dome, would have looked good next to the "town hall" shame it was demolished ;)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876347)

Tealeaf wouldn't allow it Park:D

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876351)

If HBC granted PP he would have to like it, or move :D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876354)

Well its academic really there's not many point the mat to the east in Ossy Park:D:D

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876371)

you never know, have heard others say the same thing, then bingo one shop then another shop before you know it you have a row of them all open from 10am till very very late, need I say more :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876539)

shushhhhhh you'll give people from church ideas:d

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 875795)

If they stick a mosque (with minaret) up one corner, it would an excellent asylum centre for Afgans and Iraqis.

Originally Posted by Bee (Post 910043)

RACIST!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:.