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park381 19-01-2011 15:49

The rising price of Petrol
 
Had this e-mail sent to me today, thoughts anyone

I dont know that it will make much impact - most of the cost is taxes - but the big companies can afford it.

Hey! let's try it and see, what have we got to lose.....


Please see what you think and pass it on if you agree with it.

We are hitting £1.30 a litre in some areas now and soon we will be > faced with paying £1.50 per litre.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign' that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.>
Please read it and join in!
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive
action to teach them that BUYERS - not sellers control the market place. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing
their petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:
For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one) i.e. ESSO and BP.
If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will
have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to a lot of people. If all of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)....and those 300 send it to at least
ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on. By the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE
MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!
If it goes one level further, you guessed it.....
THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
Again, all YOU have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all (and not buy at ESSO/BP). How long would all that take? If each of us sends
this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!
Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.
PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol
at Shell,Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons, Jet, etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso

Less 19-01-2011 16:03

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
How can we be sure we aren't buying their fuel, (I Use Diesel which is already £1.30) when we use, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons, or do these companies all have their own refineries now?

:)

park381 19-01-2011 16:17

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 876619)
How can we be sure we aren't buying their fuel, (I Use Diesel which is already £1.30) when we use, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons, or do these companies all have their own refineries now?
:)

That's a fair point Less, not able to answer that, but you must agree there may be something in it, if Asda, Tesco & Sainsburys are buying from BP and Esso, they are buying and selling cheaper than we can buy at BP or Esso so if we all use the supermarket's for petrol or diesel, the big 2 are not going to sell as much at their petrol stations. The idea may work. :confused:

Less 19-01-2011 16:34

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876621)
That's a fair point Less, not able to answer that, but you must agree there may be something in it, if Asda, Tesco & Sainsburys are buying from BP and Esso, they are buying and selling cheaper than we can buy at BP or Esso so if we all use the supermarket's for petrol or diesel, the big 2 are not going to sell as much at their petrol stations. The idea may work. :confused:

Come back when you've googled, we can't have flaws in the Master Plan, if I'm going to go miles out of my way wasting precious fuel, I don't want to find out later that I wasn't boycotting them but also wasting time, (more precious than fuel).

:D

park381 19-01-2011 16:44

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 876625)
Come back when you've googled, we can't have flaws in the Master Plan, if I'm going to go miles out of my way wasting precious fuel, I don't want to find out later that I wasn't boycotting them but also wasting time, (more precious than fuel).
:D

Sorry Less not got time to google to busy with answering posts on here :D , you carry on using Asda, you could have used Tesco Accrington if they had a petrol station, may be that will come later, we will need to keep a check on planning applications, sure kate will let us know, Tesco a Hill street in Blackburn is OK as well prices are not bad :D

Less 19-01-2011 16:52

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876628)
Sorry Less not got time to google to busy with answering posts on here :D , you carry on using Asda, you could have used Tesco Accrington if they had a petrol station, may be that will come later, we will need to keep a check on planning applications, sure kate will let us know, Tesco a Hill street in Blackburn is OK as well prices are not bad :D

Who said I use ASDA?
Not me!

Another thing you might check is who thought up the email?

Could be a sneaky sales exec from some rival Company hoping to make a killing?

By the way when we did have those days of protest, weren't they against Taxation rather than the oil Companies?

You put the thread on here, so it's your idea, if you can't be bothered to find the facts why should anyone consider the idea worthwhile?

:confused:

jedimaster 19-01-2011 17:01

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
as far as I recall this was also tried last year and didn't work. i do know that supermarkets do buy in their fuel from large fuel companies. I believe sainsbury's still use BP. which ones the others use I couldn't tell you.

park381 19-01-2011 17:21

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Who said I use ASDA?
Not me!
Though you bought cheap fuel :confused:
Another thing you might check is who thought up the email?
Could be a sneaky sales exec from some rival Company hoping to make a killing?
You could be correct there Less
By the way when we did have those days of protest, weren't they against Taxation rather than the oil Companies?
What's this all about then
You put the thread on here, so it's your idea, if you can't be bothered to find the facts why should anyone consider the idea worthwhile?
Did'nt have any "idea" just thought it made interesting reading, you don't have to read it do you. ;)

Less 19-01-2011 17:44

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876637)
By the way when we did have those days of protest, weren't they against Taxation rather than the oil Companies?
What's this all about then



It's about this:-
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876616)
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive
action to teach them that BUYERS - not sellers control the market place. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing
their petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

Quote:

You put the thread on here, so it's your idea, if you can't be bothered to find the facts why should anyone consider the idea worthwhile?

Did'nt have any "idea" just thought it made interesting reading, you don't have to read it do you. ;)
Not just an interesting read, (which is why I'm reading it), but, a call for action! (your post your call).:D
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876616)

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one) i.e. ESSO and BP.
If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.

I'm prepared to take action after all, filling my tank now costs over £100, but lets make sure we aren't wasting more time and money, go on, show off your googling prowess and proudly display the facts.
;)

Less 19-01-2011 18:12

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So much for the email:-
snopes.com: Gas Out

Quote:

[Collected on the Internet, 2006]
[Collected on the Internet, 2004]
Last updated 13th April 2006

Pity really, could do with lower fuel bills.

:(

park381 19-01-2011 18:16

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
It's about this:-
Not just an interesting read, (which is why I'm reading it), but, a call for action! (your post your call).:D
Don't use BP or Esso or any of the supermarkets, plenty of heating oil tanks up and down :D
I'm prepared to take action after all, filling my tank now costs over £100, but lets make sure we aren't wasting more time and money, go on, show off your googling prowess and proudly display the facts.
;)
£100 + to fill your tank............wow, must be a big motor. google by the way does not show where the supermarkets fuel comes from, only the fact that it is all low grade stuff,judging by the number of complaints :eek:....... think we need to spend £100 + to tank your vehicle up and then follow an Asda or Tesco tanker to see where they go to fill up ;)

park381 19-01-2011 18:25

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 876669)
So much for the email:-
snopes.com: Gas Out
Last updated 13th April 2006
Pity really, could do with lower fuel bills.
:(

That refers to Exxon & Mobil and all the prices are in $, so lets give a bit of credit to the person that sent the email in the first place for converting it to english :D

You could get lower fuel bills, get a smaller car, one with road tax at £30 per year or use a bus pass :D

Less 19-01-2011 18:57

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876677)
That refers to Exxon & Mobil and all the prices are in $, so lets give a bit of credit to the person that sent the email in the first place for converting it to english :D

just for you these two:-

Petrol Company Boycott
High Petrol Prices ---- Then Selectively Boycott

It doesn't take much to get a WHOLE page full of googling from all over the world that have copied pasted and changed the currency or target Companies.


:rolleyes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876677)
You could get lower fuel bills, get a smaller car, one with road tax at £30 per year or use a bus pass :D

The tank is in a small van used for business, some of us have very little choice when we are being practical.

As for the bus pass...

Sorry Neil nearly broke the no swearing on site rule!
:mad:

Tealeaf 19-01-2011 19:02

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
What a load of bollocks. Did someone's parrot write that email? If so, it must have been drunk.

There is one simple solution to the price of fuel - keep your car in the garage (or even better, scrap it) - then walk. Some of you might even get reasonably fit, so that hopefully in the next few weeks or months, we won't get the clinically obese characters coming on here complaining about longer queues for NHS treatment.

duggie 19-01-2011 19:52

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
approx 90 pence per ltr is tax, it's the goverment we need to be protested against not the garages,
United Kingdom
Main article: Hydrocarbon oil duty
From 4th January 2011 the UK duty rate for the road fuels unleaded petrol, diesel, biodiesel and bioethanol is GB£0.5895 per litre (£2.65 per imperial gallon or £2.20 per U.S. gallon).[3] Value Added Tax at 20% is also charged on the price of the fuel and on the duty.

Using the UK average untaxed pump price for unleaded petrol of £0.4572 per litre (from the December 2010 average taxed price of £1.221 per litre,[4] the duty rate of £0.5819 per litre[3] and the then VAT rate of 17.5%) this would give a January 2011 taxed price of £1.256 per litre (£5.71 per imperial gallon or £4.75 per U.S. gallon) - that is equivalent to a tax rate of 175%.

Diesel for use by farmers and construction vehicles is coloured red (Red Diesel) and has a much reduced tax, currently £0.1133 per litre.[3]

Jet fuel used for international aviation attracts no duty, and no VAT

duggie 19-01-2011 19:55

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 876687)
What a load of bollocks. Did someone's parrot write that email? If so, it must have been drunk.

There is one simple solution to the price of fuel - keep your car in the garage (or even better, scrap it) - then walk. Some of you might even get reasonably fit, so that hopefully in the next few weeks or months, we won't get the clinically obese characters coming on here complaining about longer queues for NHS treatment.

All well and good if you walk about 20 miles a week, I drive 25000 miles a year, I would never see the wife, mmm, perhaps it's not a bad idea

park381 19-01-2011 19:58

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by duggie (Post 876721)
approx 90 pence per ltr is tax, it's the goverment we need to be protested against not the garages,
United Kingdom
Main article: Hydrocarbon oil duty
From 4th January 2011 the UK duty rate for the road fuels unleaded petrol, diesel, biodiesel and bioethanol is GB£0.5895 per litre (£2.65 per imperial gallon or £2.20 per U.S. gallon).[3] Value Added Tax at 20% is also charged on the price of the fuel and on the duty.

Using the UK average untaxed pump price for unleaded petrol of £0.4572 per litre (from the December 2010 average taxed price of £1.221 per litre,[4] the duty rate of £0.5819 per litre[3] and the then VAT rate of 17.5%) this would give a January 2011 taxed price of £1.256 per litre (£5.71 per imperial gallon or £4.75 per U.S. gallon) - that is equivalent to a tax rate of 175%.

Diesel for use by farmers and construction vehicles is coloured red (Red Diesel) and has a much reduced tax, currently £0.1133 per litre.[3]

Jet fuel used for international aviation attracts no duty, and no VAT

Nice one duggie, I agree on the UK tax, but why are the oil companies making great big profits, it would suggest that the product is over priced to start with even before hm.gov get their tax bit

Margaret Pilkington 19-01-2011 19:58

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 876687)
What a load of bollocks. Did someone's parrot write that email? If so, it must have been drunk.

There is one simple solution to the price of fuel - keep your car in the garage (or even better, scrap it) - then walk. Some of you might even get reasonably fit, so that hopefully in the next few weeks or months, we won't get the clinically obese characters coming on here complaining about longer queues for NHS treatment.


Your advice is fine and dandy if you are talking about local distances, but many many people have to work.......and unfortunately for them the work isn't always on the doorstep. Transport is necessary, and you cannot rely on public transport if you have a job with even slightly unsocial hours I'm talking 6pm here...... as some buses stop running at 5pm.

Shopping......now there is another thorny problem, mother with two children needs to stock up her cupboards.......corner shops are long gone......their demise hastened by the likes of Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury's........ walking to the shops might prove no problem,but coming back with the children and bags of food........?does the mother buy a donkey and cart to take her to the shops and bring back the food?


Do you live in the real world? Do you live off beer and fags?
I'm pretty sure you will have a smart come-back answer........but for some people a car is a necessity.

park381 19-01-2011 20:11

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 876687)
What a load of bollocks. Did someone's parrot write that email? If so, it must have been drunk.

There is one simple solution to the price of fuel - keep your car in the garage (or even better, scrap it) - then walk. Some of you might even get reasonably fit, so that hopefully in the next few weeks or months, we won't get the clinically obese characters coming on here complaining about longer queues for NHS treatment.

Someone light your candle Tealeaf. why not join me on the golf course twice a week, that's in winter, JJB gym twice a week..... don't talk to me about getting fit, the offer is there come and join me ;)

DaveinGermany 19-01-2011 20:17

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
It's easy money, as simple as that ! Governments all over are raking it in to fill budget holes so sadly it's going to be a fact of life & it ain't going to get any better ! Living in Germany we do have some limited choices, we can cut across to Holland to fill up. Saturday morning 8 pumps 6/7 cars queuing at each pump, all German registrations & this goes on all day !

Then there are the other borders Poland/Austria/Belgium/Czech Rep/Luxembourg just to name a few & most of these have considerably less duties on their fuels so we get "Tank tourists", it worried the Germans that much there was talk about garages in Border areas getting dispensation to reduce the fuel price to stop people buying abroad !

Sadly in UK you're stuck on an Island so can't benefit by such an expedient so the Government of the day have definitely got the Public by the Pubics !

park381 19-01-2011 20:20

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Hey Less what's the problem, each time I try to reply to your post I get "server error" so here we go

I knew you would find an answer :D

£100+ to fill a "small van"............what's the saying ' you goda be ...........' :eek:

Bus passes, what's your problem with them..............you can borrow mine if you like :D

It looks like you :dummy:

Tealeaf 19-01-2011 20:23

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876739)
Someone light your candle Tealeaf. why not join me on the golf course twice a week, that's in winter, JJB gym twice a week..... don't talk to me about getting fit, the offer is there come and join me ;)

Golf Course? That's a fairies game, if ever there was one. You'll burn more energy spending an hour or so sticking stamps in a stamp album than fooling around with a stick and a little ball twice a week.

Less 19-01-2011 20:30

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876749)
Hey Less what's the problem, each time I try to reply to your post I get "server error" so here we go

You'd better not have broken accyweb with this rubbish thread of yours.

Quote:

I knew you would find an answer :D

Unfortunately it would have been better if YOU had checked but there again this thread is showing you up for what you are.

Quote:

£100+ to fill a "small van"............what's the saying ' you goda be ...........' :eek:

Unfortunately that is the way of it '9 months of Tory misrule' and all that.

park381 19-01-2011 20:43

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 876752)
You'd better not have broken accyweb with this rubbish thread of yours.

Your doing not mine, you are the techno kid

Quote:

Unfortunately it would have been better if YOU had checked but there again this thread is showing you up for what you are.
You have done it for me, all I did was to post an e-mail :D

Quote:

Unfortunately that is the way of it '9 months of Tory misrule' and all that.
why not sell the van or scrap it, as Tealeaf recommends ;)

What about the bus pass Less? :rolleyes:

park381 19-01-2011 20:49

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 876751)
Golf Course? That's a fairies game, if ever there was one. You'll burn more energy spending an hour or so sticking stamps in a stamp album than fooling around with a stick and a little ball twice a week.

Tiger Woods, Lee Westwood, Paul Casey are all mega rich because of the "fairies game" as you call it. If you fancy a try at the fairies game just ask. :cool:

Tealeaf 19-01-2011 21:28

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876762)
Tiger Woods, Lee Westwood, Paul Casey are all mega rich because of the "fairies game" as you call it. If you fancy a try at the fairies game just ask. :cool:

No thanks. Some of us have our pride and self respect.

cashman 19-01-2011 22:10

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 876781)
No thanks. Some of us have our pride and self respect.

well you aint that much........after all yeh stand wi us up the stanley.:D

park381 20-01-2011 16:49

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Just for Less a bit more information

Sainsbury's Fuel - Company Information - PetrolPrices.com supplied by BP they think

Asda Fuel - Company Information - PetrolPrices.com used to be Teaxaco or Esso now their own brand

Morrisons Fuel - Company Information - PetrolPrices.com once Shell then Texaco now their own brand

Tesco Fuel - Company Information - PetrolPrices.com once Gulf,Texaco or BP now their own brand, but have opened Tesco Express shops at Esso sites

So you see nearly all the big supermarkets sell their own brand of fuel, but where do they get it.

They buy it on the wholesale market and it is whoever is cheapest on the day, it could be BP, Shell, Total or anybody else frankly. ;)

Margaret Pilkington 20-01-2011 17:38

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Surely if everyone avoided buying petrol at either a BP or Esso filling station it would have some impact on their sales.
However, the government is laughing all the way to the bank because of the windfall in tax caused by the rising prices.
Don't the fools realise that this rise is going to affect almost everything that is hauled around the country? A hike in inflation is just what we need right now!(NOT)

park381 20-01-2011 17:56

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 876954)
Surely if everyone avoided buying petrol at either a BP or Esso filling station it would have some impact on their sales.
However, the government is laughing all the way to the bank because of the windfall in tax caused by the rising prices.
Don't the fools realise that this rise is going to affect almost everything that is hauled around the country? A hike in inflation is just what we need right now!(NOT)

I am in total agreement with you......wonder how long defore taxi fares go up as well :(

accysimon 20-01-2011 18:14

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
The problem with supermarket petrol is that you don't always know where it's come from. I twice filled up at Asda Accrington recently, and my car was sluggish. Performance changed and improved again when I went back to Texaco or Shell etc...

park381 20-01-2011 18:43

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 876977)
The problem with supermarket petrol is that you don't always know where it's come from. I twice filled up at Asda Accrington recently, and my car was sluggish. Performance changed and improved again when I went back to Texaco or Shell etc...

Know what you mean, will not use Asda, Tesco or any of the other supermarkets if I do the engine runs as if there is a bag of nuts & bolts banging about in there :eek:

Alan Varrechia 20-01-2011 21:38

Re: The rising price of Petrol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876985)
Know what you mean, will not use Asda, Tesco or any of the other supermarkets if I do the engine runs as if there is a bag of nuts & bolts banging about in there :eek:

Their petrol is cheap for a very good reason, simples really you get what you pay for.


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