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Atarah 07-07-2011 09:30

Praise! (for a change) - Burnley Rd, Accrington
 
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Just look what they have done to the bottom block of Burnley Road - it looks lovely! (the next block higher up is also being "done up")

Atarah 07-07-2011 09:44

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What I meant to add, and missed off, was, how come they didnt improve the property along Blackburn Road. All those fab Victorian houses, some with bay windows, (and lovely, large rooms) could have just looked just as good!!!!

wadey 07-07-2011 09:46

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Very nice

Margaret Pilkington 07-07-2011 10:43

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That is a huge improvement.

Margaret Pilkington 07-07-2011 10:45

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There are lots of properties in the borough that could be improved and made into good family homes......but they are torn down and new buiolds are put in their place.....and these are not in keeping with the surrounding properties. It is very sad.

Neil 07-07-2011 11:38

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Do you need planning permission to stick those horrible little porches on?

The row does look really good now.

I love old terraced houses which is why we live in one but lots of people want modern, efficient, cheap to heat shoe boxes with a garden now. I don't blame them either. We used to live in one and it was a lot cheaper to heat than ours now with less maintenance issues and cost.

garinda 07-07-2011 12:12

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I love our stone built terraced houses too, and the ones in the photos do look great.

I'm pretty sure you don't need permission for a porch, because they fall within the limits of how much you can extend a property without the need for planning permission.

They do help to insulate homes, but purely from an aesthetic point of view I wouldn't have one.

Pudwoppa 07-07-2011 15:07

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The builders seem to have lost heart with the top few properties on the next block up. The gardens have a lot of earth behind the front wall and haven't been touched yet - hope they don't leave them untouched.

Wynonie Harris 07-07-2011 21:12

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So why can't they do the same to Woodnook?

cmonstanley 07-07-2011 21:29

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who owns these houses ?

Tealeaf 07-07-2011 21:35

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 917303)
who owns these houses ?

Max cabs.

Margaret Pilkington 07-07-2011 21:54

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 917300)
So why can't they do the same to Woodnook?

That is a really good question.
The answer will probably be.......the money has been spent.

BERNADETTE 07-07-2011 23:18

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 917300)
So why can't they do the same to Woodnook?

Why indeed Steve, seems that some areas of Hyndburn are being given the star treatment whilst others are being completely ignored. Wonder why that is:mad:

cashman 07-07-2011 23:21

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Thing is bernie,as margaret says,the dosh will have gone, shame fer the poor sods that live around the area.:(

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2011 06:39

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It is a crying shame. The area has gone steadily downhill over the years...and just when the people who live there thought they had a chance of being spruced up, the rug is pulled from under them because the funds are no longer there.
I am sure the people of Woodnook feel very let down by the powers that be.

Atarah 08-07-2011 08:07

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I keep "picking up on rumours" that there MAY be a chance for Woodnook after all and that Labour are trying their utmost to reverse any decisions made. Hope the rumour has a ring of truth to it.

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2011 08:12

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I hope so too.

Neil 08-07-2011 08:43

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Labour have always been big on sorting out the landlords that have caused a lot of the problems in areas like Woodnook. I am really hoping they do sort it out. There is little point spending millions on making the area look good again if the root of the problem is not sorted out first. It would just be throwing away good money for a short term fix.

Sort out the problems with the bad landlords (not all are bad, I have rented several houses and only ever had one problem landlord), get tough on the residents making the mess and then invest in the areas is the way forward in my opinion.

I would prefer to see the houses owned by the council first and them restored so we are not giving tax payers money to private companies and individuals but I cant see that happening.

cashman 08-07-2011 09:14

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 917339)
Labour have always been big on sorting out the landlords that have caused a lot of the problems in areas like Woodnook. I am really hoping they do sort it out. There is little point spending millions on making the area look good again if the root of the problem is not sorted out first. It would just be throwing away good money for a short term fix.

Sort out the problems with the bad landlords (not all are bad, I have rented several houses and only ever had one problem landlord), get tough on the residents making the mess and then invest in the areas is the way forward in my opinion.

I would prefer to see the houses owned by the council first and them restored so we are not giving tax payers money to private companies and individuals but I cant see that happening.

that to me is at the core of the problem, probably the biggest factor, the stupid decision to sell off council houses, - less to rent n many jumped on the bandwagon,snapping property up, there has always been rogue landlords "Rachman" etc, but as well as the good uns, many "Cowboys" came aboard.

Benipete 08-07-2011 09:17

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 917142)
Do you need planning permission to stick those horrible little porches on?

People often confuse planning permission with building regulations and although you may not need the former you will almost certainly need the latter.

If in doubt check It out.;):p

Benipete 08-07-2011 09:21

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Building Regulations - Planning, building and the environment - Department for Communities and Local Government

Neil 08-07-2011 11:05

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To complicated for me mate, I hit things with hammers and if that fails I get the laptop out :D

DaveinGermany 08-07-2011 19:29

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 917350)
To complicated for me mate, I hit things with hammers and if that fails I get the laptop out :D

The laptop can't be much good for hitting things with ! :D

Pudwoppa 10-07-2011 19:53

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 917318)
Why indeed Steve, seems that some areas of Hyndburn are being given the star treatment whilst others are being completely ignored. Wonder why that is:mad:

I've no idea about Woodnook, but the area between the railway line and burnley road hasn't been receiving any star treatment at all. It has been neglected for quite some time and it was due some attention too. I would guess that Burnley Road took priority as it's a major 'in-road' for the town. They haven't touched the properties on the streets behind, many of which are in a dire state.

Looks like the difficult gardens at the top of the second block are being tackled now. There's been a truck and digger blocking traffic on Burnley Road for a few days now :(

dusty mears 11-07-2011 19:47

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burnley rd does look great. It was becoming run down & being a "gateway" into town was likely why it was chosen. Only critisim is rediculous waste of money putting new stone garden walls in & flagging losing gardens ! Walls could've been cleaned / rebuilt using existing. Unfortunately opposite side looks 100 times worse now - unless that gets done or owners invest which i doubt very much.
Woodnook - it's demise was back in 80's when landlords started buyin up houses. I shame every time i walk along hudson st to a friends & cringe each time her parents visit from france. There's plenty legislation the council can use to try to get the area cleaned up it it takes resources they've not got.
Blackburn rd - council or likely the faceless ever moving gravy train that was elevate started at the wrong end. Several councillors agreed with me! Should've been town centre out. Instead the worst's been left and now there's money!

Pudwoppa 12-07-2011 09:14

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Originally Posted by dusty mears (Post 918154)
Only critisim is rediculous waste of money putting new stone garden walls in & flagging losing gardens ! Walls could've been cleaned / rebuilt using existing.

My builder friend says they've used artificial rather than cut stone - if they sold on the original stone, they may have offset much of the cost. Not sure if that's how they worked it though.

accyman 12-07-2011 09:20

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 917123)
What I meant to add, and missed off, was, how come they didnt improve the property along Blackburn Road. All those fab Victorian houses, some with bay windows, (and lovely, large rooms) could have just looked just as good!!!!


some properties along blackburn road have been done twice over the years with re sandblasting,new roofs,railings and windows and each time the owners have let the buildings fall into a mess.Why they were done twice i dont know im sure other areas would have loved the free work and looked after it

Neil 12-07-2011 09:31

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[QUOTE=dusty mears;918154Only critisim is rediculous waste of money putting new stone garden walls in & flagging losing gardens ! Walls could've been cleaned / rebuilt using existing. [/QUOTE]

Without gardens it is more likely to stay looking nice unfortunately.

bzk 12-07-2011 17:09

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I'm sorry but Burnley Road is a disgrace. To drive on I mean.
For some reason they've resurfaced a small stretch approaching the roundabout at the edge of town, but neglected to re-do the far worse pot-hole laden stretch as it passes Bolton Av and the cemetery.

This road is the gateway into Hyndburn from those driving up from the Manchester area or even further south now that they have an alternative to the M6 with the M60 East.

First thing they will notice is their expensive vehicles being ruined as they drive down Burnley Rd. Then they'll think "forget it, I'm not investing here to be faced with this every time".

duggie 13-07-2011 21:47

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pity none of the refurb work is being done by local compaines, say no more, you shuld be ashamed HBC

cmonstanley 13-07-2011 21:54

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 917304)
Max cabs.

really or you takin the mick lol no really who owns these houses:confused:

dusty mears 19-07-2011 23:07

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hi neil. Sorry gota disagree. Have done this type of work for 13'ish years. 'we' have always made point of encouraging retention of gardens. Dont recall any looking a mess. Some residents have insisted on keeping gardens! One scheme i walk past daily every resident / tenant has 'done' their garden. It looks great. None of em are gardeners but they're all having a do! And i've told em how great it looks.
To add - the walls are stone - new slab walls, new gate posts, new stone walling - very very costly and ? necessary. Particularly after some walls were re-built to be then renewed. And yes disgreaceful NO local contractors !!! And never seen any HBC officers about. And contractor vehicles causing obstructions on burnley rd by insisting on HAVING to park right where they're working - not allowed on my sites!

Bee 20-07-2011 14:57

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Look amazing (the houses).

Pudwoppa 21-09-2011 13:43

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Has anyone else noticed the Old Video shop being demolished on Burnley Road (at corner with Eastgate)? They put scaffolding up recently so I thought they were just replacing the roof at first, but it now looks as though they're dismantling the whole thing by hand.

Anyone know what's going to be there? I hope we don't get left with a hole - that mini forest beside it really doesn't need an extension...

heth 21-09-2011 16:12

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Me Mum says that she read somewhere that there were gonna be a new furniture store on Burnley Rd but didnt know where-abouts. May be whats going on but dont know for deffinate.

Retlaw 21-09-2011 17:14

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 917327)
It is a crying shame. The area has gone steadily downhill over the years...and just when the people who live there thought they had a chance of being spruced up, the rug is pulled from under them because the funds are no longer there.
I am sure the people of Woodnook feel very let down by the powers that be.

Woodnook was made a conservation area back in the 1970's, we got funding, and money was spent doing the area up, we had several projects brought to a halt, there was 230,000 quid left in the pot, when the gas board, and the water board stepped in, the water board came with an tale that every house had to have its own connection to the mains, even though the water supplies were good, they dug up a lot of the new pavements, justifying their existance. Gas Board did the same, new pipes coming up the front wall of the house, the slipshod repairs they made to the paving, looks like it were done by a chap in a rowing boat.
Retlaw

Pudwoppa 12-10-2011 19:35

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The old video shop was knocked down to single story and left, so it's now without a roof and looking reminiscent of downtown Sirte. It was then painted (that's right, painted after part-demolition?!?!) and subsequently adorned with a for sale sign.

"This building isn't selling."
"Maybe it's too tall... and erm... too waterproof."

The mind boggles.

Whittaker 24-10-2011 14:50

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 935194)
Me Mum says that she read somewhere that there were gonna be a new furniture store on Burnley Rd but didnt know where-abouts. May be whats going on but dont know for deffinate.


the shop that used to be the video shop and then the pram shop at the bottom of burnley road was taken down to a safe level due to a wall being unsafe so the owner has been asked to do this, i beleive there is planning permission to build houses/ flats not seen this in writing but have been told verbally. i beleive the new furniture store is going in the old shop further up burnly road in the same side, used to be a tool hire place

groove 25-10-2011 10:57

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 918706)
really or you takin the mick lol no really who owns these houses:confused:

Groove believes these houses to be mainly privately owned as he knows 2 people who own their own propertys on these blocks. Although no doubt a few will be owned by private landlords/

Bee 04-11-2011 22:18

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Originally Posted by groove (Post 942311)
Groove believes these houses to be mainly privately owned as he knows 2 people who own their own propertys on these blocks. Although no doubt a few will be owned by private landlords/

Groove, would you PLEASE stop referring yourself in the third person!. It can be very annoying!.
:mad:

Royboy39 04-11-2011 22:26

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Originally Posted by groove (Post 942311)
Groove believes these houses to be mainly privately owned as he knows 2 people who own their own propertys on these blocks. Although no doubt a few will be owned by private landlords/

Is it really surprising, I don't give a Tom Tit what Groove believes.:eek:

Big Dave 05-11-2011 18:17

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Before I was married I used to live nearly opposite that shop just demolished .In the 50's it was a "gentlemans tailors" and I once saw Bob Lord from Burnley going to buy a suit there.It was called jack (Carrs??) I,m not sure of his last name.I think the new furniture shop is going to be higher up in what also in the 50's was originally Taskers before they moved to Queen Mill.Next to the tailors was Moores spring works between Burnley Road and 'Raggy back'

cashman 05-11-2011 18:21

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 945290)
Before I was married I used to live nearly opposite that shop just demolished .In the 50's it was a "gentlemans tailors" and I once saw Bob Lord from Burnley going to buy a suit there.It was called jack (Carrs??) I,m not sure of his last name.I think the new furniture shop is going to be higher up in what also in the 50's was originally Taskers before they moved to Queen Mill.Next to the tailors was Moores spring works between Burnley Road and 'Raggy back'

also Pembertons Estate Agents Dave.;)I lived burnley Rd on block below melbourne st in the early 50s n then moved to Dowry St just behing the Boars Head.

maxthecollie 05-11-2011 18:23

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What is happening to that eyesore at the bottom of Burnley Road where you turn left at the lights?

Pudwoppa 14-11-2011 17:44

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^^ Read the above - looks like they're trying to sell the land for development/building.

katex 15-11-2011 11:03

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 945292)
What is happening to that eyesore at the bottom of Burnley Road where you turn left at the lights?


I think this is it, Maxthecollie ?

Case File

and later this:

Case File

Just go into 'Decisions' on the latter.


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