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I have noticed a little piece of black material hanging from the back [on the tow ring on the bottom right ] of a lot of cars in accrington and blackburn.all of these cars owned by asians . I have been told this black material indicates that they are willing to crash into each other and half the compensation money.

My car insurance has risen year on year for 4 years simply because i have an accrington postcode .

If this is true;this cannot be allowed to continue!!!

Has any body else heard anything similar?

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Can't say I've heard that, or seen any on cars myself.

Perhaps it's what's left, when tin cans were tied to their cars when they got hitched.

;):D

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Trust me you will notice it now.

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How weird is that?
However, would logic not suggest that a) if these people did wish to crash into each other, they would make a private arrangement snd not advertise as such and b) if it is indeed the case of the hanging plastic, then maybe the opposite is true and the message to the following car is "Don't do Cash for Smash on me chummy, 'cause I'm one of you lot".

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The guy who told me picks uo cars after crashes and he rekons its widespread

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I'll certainly check now.

Being Asian myself I've just been to look at the back of my own car.

There was just bit of rope.

Left over from when I towed someone from the KKK.

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That is out of order. Thats like saying gypsies dont steal metal and weigh it in. Im not saying its everybody just that i have only noticed it on asian cars . Well over 50 times.

If its true its affecting EVERYBODYS premiums .

Read the thread title . Im trying to find out if its true

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You'd think it'd be easier to get one of those handy li'l signs, ever so helpful folk stick in their rear window, to relay interesting personal information.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ZHH2kfGDxiW-6A

DRIVER WILL PAY
4 REAR SHUNTING!

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One day last summer I nipped out in my slippers to buy eggs from the allotment next to my flat.
On the car park which I had to cross were 3 men, two vans and a car.
An asian man was taking photographs of bodywork damage on the vans.
It was clear to me that the damage had not happened there, but the vehicles were gathered in this remote location for the purpose of taking photos.
When they noticed me looking as I passed the asian made an abusive remark to me, to the effect that I should mind my own business.

The remark was intended to intimidate me, and would not have been said if they were acting legally.
I have no doubt that car damage insurance fraud is happening locally.

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What's out of order?

What have gypsies got to do with it?

You asked a question, I replied I hadn't seen any such cars, or heard this theory until you posted it.

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I didnt say it was true i was trying to find out why lots of people for no apparent reason would have black material tied to the towbar.

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Can you offer a reasonable explanation ?

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You may get more than you bargain for if you put that on your car rindy, especially in certain parts of manchester:D:D

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When you say 'Asians', can you be more specific.

It's a massive continent.

I don't want to waste my time looking at cars driven by Thai, Japanese, or Mongolians etc.

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Er...unfounded prejudice?

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I thought it helped discharge static to earth and so help prevent car sickness, having said that blackburn is the nations capitol for crash for cash incidents that is true.

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I'll line 'em up. you tap 'em in the net.

;):D

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Oki koki will do keep em coming:D:D

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Nope, done a search, and can't find anything about people, of whatever nationality, driving sround in cars that are marked to alert others that they are willing to take part in fake crashes/fraudulent insurance scams.

Of course these crashes happen, and they have been many prosecutions, but I can find no evidence that they have marked cars, inviting others to involve themselves in a crime.

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If the sign alerting others is still attatched to the car, when it's picked up by the tow truck after the 'crash', you'd have thought the police who have to be called when there's a traffic incident, might have noticed this trend too.

Thus invalidating any insurance claim.

As a scam it seems very flawed.

If blokes in garages are discussing the ruse, I doubt it's been devised by a criminal mastermind.

At least not a very successful one.

:rolleyes:

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You could have disturbed doggers, and perhaps the infamy you gained, of you being the 'dog poo woman' made them uneasy in your presence.

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Good point but i cannot think of a logical alternative

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Insurance fraud is a lucrative business - just look at how much money was made here
Burnley brothers jailed for pocketing nearly £2m in 'crash for cash scam (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Looks like the chap pictured has had lots of holidays in the sun ;)

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...and no 'chap' who hasn't had a 'lot of holidays in the sun', has never been convicted of faked crash insurance fraud in the U.K.?

If you're hatching a conspiracy theory with a racist angle, at least have the courage to be open about it, and don't hide behind pathetic metaphors.

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Well, if it is true it amounts to conspiracy to defraud on a massive scale.

The alternative explanation is it could be an Islamic good luck charm - the equivalent of a pair of furry dice hanging from the windscreen. Or it could mean 'The driver of this car is Gay'. Or what about 'The driver of this car didn't really pass his test - he got his mate to do it. So watch out.'

Who knows?

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As evidence to a discussion, that has to rate as one of the worst links ever posted on Accy Web.

It's like putting the address of a website featuring the case of Myra Hindley, graspingly doing so in the vain hope it somehow infers all women are child abusing monsters.

Disgraceful.

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Well why don't you go and ask one of them why they have black material tied to their towbar?

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I don't think there's anything wrong, with asking others if they've heard the same tale.

As it seems we haven't.

Though later contributions from others, seem to sickeningly have their own agenda.

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This is the second thing today that has convinced me we need ID cards in this country to prove who we are and they need a fool proof way of identifying a person so multiple claims will instantly stand out.

The second was watching Motorway Cops on BBC1 which had a fella lying about who he was by trying to be his brother because he had no insurance but his brother did.

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The black cloth strip is to do with Islam, something about warding away evil spirits. I have a few good friends who are Muslim and they have confirmed it.

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Well I've asked a colleague and he says he noticed it too, but says its good luck so your car isn't jinxed, I asked him about the crash n cash in, he says hes not heard of anything and also added - people like that ruin it for the rest of us, insurance is high enough as it is! Interesting!

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I think the good luck charm or the earth conductor which walkinman mentioned earlier in the thread is a more convincing argument than the one put forward by the thread starter, after all if there was an insurance scam involved, it would be arranged by parties in advance not just bumping into any Tom Dick or Abdul with black invite dangling from their boot

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The anti static/motion sickness strips I know about, but black cloth ? That's a new one on me & I've certainly not seen it while driving round in Europe.

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It looks like entwisi answered the original question and the answer is - No its not true.

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SURELY. someone knows the answer to this one posed by Sausage Butty ? I think I do, but dare I intimate the implications here ? Only hearsay though, I will wait awhile and see what transpires.....The truth will out..

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Intimate away.

Hardly a topical thread.

You might be in for a long wait, if you're expecting anything else to transpire in this thread, any time soon.

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Yes, I do.

Urban myth.

Bollocks.

Stuff and nonsense.

Call it what you will.

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see post #30,

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I heard that the black strip of cloth denotes that the driver is a Taliban sympathizer:confused:

A tartan strip that he is a Bay City Rollers fan.

Not seen many of them lately.:D:D

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If it's a green piece of cloth it means the driver is a leprechaun, and you should drive after him, to see where he keeps his pot of gold is.

If it's a stocking, hanging from the car, that signals the owners are swingers. Approach with caution.

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Better throw caution to the wind - at least the swingers won't disappear into thin air and leave you empy handed;):D

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I've actually been told that when you see the black material hanging from the rear of a taxi drivers car it is to alert other asians that they are racist, and don not like whites so they dont think bad of each other... my friend was told this directly from one of his non racist asian friends, so Im guessing its true!!

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and it just gets better...

how many explanations are we going to have before people realise that post 30 is correct.

and I will say its no secret that majority of insurance scams are from the bb10 area, my sister works for an insurance company in blackburn and she tells me that because of the high amount of fraudulent claims that are submitted daily is unreal and all of them are of asian descent.
she is currently investigating one claimant from bb10 who has claimed more than £6k in a crash but only paid in £2k..and this person has another 3 claims awaiting in the wings to be processed totalling £14k, this wont happen as they dont realise they are being investigated for other claims and will be done for it...
from my understanding the majority of fraud claims submitted for fake crashes in bb10 are done so by asians.
this is one of the reasons why our car insurances are sky high...

like someone said - you always get people who spoil it for others..

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Um that's strange really, because back in the 60s you regularly saw cars with "black" trailers hanging from the rear, whats even stranger is that back in those days there were very few Asians living in this area, they must have just been rehearsing for later years:rolleyes:

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I asked on another forum if the concentration of (false) claims nationwide could be related to areas where ethnic minorities lived - got no real answer.

I think legislation should be introduced so that a lie detector may be used to to test the validity of insurance claims. (No criminal implications - just an OK or a Sod Off!)

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I see the police are now using lie detectors to speed up investigations - eliminate innocent suspects etc. BUT (putting my cynical hat on) maybe the insurance companies aren't too keen on combating fraud - after all Increased Turnover = Increased Profits - and the costs get passed on to the customer anyway!

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My son unfortunately bumped the back of a land rover recently, standing at traffic lights and his foot slipped off the brake, he hardly touched the land rover and the van wasnt damaged, yet the driver of the other vehicle claimed over £8000, he is a white, English businessman from Rossendale, our insurance just paid out without too much in the way of investigation, sorry for the thread wander, I have no idea what the black material is for, but Im willing to bet Entwisi is right!

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seen these many times, I have been told it ia a symbol that represents support for the taliban and that was from a very nice westernised pakistan chap who I have known for years !!!

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If you google it, you will find the truth. Actually just read post#30

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Just browsing around, love the humour /banter. Cracked me up this morning.!

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Lie Detector should never ever ever be used in any serious manner. They are not 100%

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Wanna Bet ? Ask any married man & I'm sure he'll tell you the one indoors is usually pretty spot on. ;) :D

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Don't know about the other half Dave but the old lady certainly was, once remember coming home at 1am when I was 17 and the old lady was waiting up for me, I stagger in she takes one look at me, and yells DRUNK AGAIN, I just answered ya mum so am I, so am I:D

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It's time you learned how to fool them.;) Tell them the truth. Their belief that you lie to them is so ingrained that they won't believe you. So, if you had been next door with your recently divorced, horney neighbour, tell her that when she asks to know where you were, and what you were doing.:D And when she demands to know what you were REALLY doing, confess to being out with your buds, drinking beer, munching on wings, and watching UFC.:mosher:

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how very true Eric how very true:D

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All well & good Eric, but that's a logical approach & as such, dealing with F.U.R. (Female unreasonable reasoning) is as useful as bacon butties in a mosque. :D

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Maybe ... but bacon butties in a mosque are damned useful. Clears out the premises real good.:D Lancashire's answer to the suicide bomb:theband: And the followers of the prophet of peace, love, public amputations, and wife battering would never come back after such a profane act. I suppose the building could be used for new dollar store.:rolleyes:

Did I say "dollar":eek: ... I meant "pound". By the way, don't you guys realize you are getting ripped of. The Chinese junk (that was accidental by the way) you guys pay a pound for, costs me only a buck:tongueout

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Somewhere on the road from lie detectors to bacon butties;), I forgot to ask about the law and lie detectors. Am I right in presuming that anyone can refuse a test, and that the refusal cannot be used in evidence against him? So if the officer asks: "Would you be prepared to take a lie detector test?"; are you within your rights when you tell him to shove it up his ass?

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Probably in a criminal matter, but the settling of an insurance claim would, initially, be a civil matter. I don't think most genuine claimants would object to a lie detector test if it speeded up their settlement & highlighted which cases needed more careful examination.

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If the insurance companies are in favour of it, it's probably not a good idea. With all the money they make, careful examination of all cases should not be a problem. I see it as a way to increase profits while offering less service. If the increased profits result in lower premiums, it would be a great idea ... but don't hold your breath.

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Oh my. I would hate to know what the box of tissues represents......

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It might also discourage some of the more obvious fraudsters.

I see that the 3 convicted of causing the death of a woman in a 'crash for cash' scam were from Eastern Europe. Let's have lots more of them then :mad:

They've been jailed for ten years - we'll probably give them bed and board for about 18 months then send them home with a good ticking off.

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Not going to happen, they'll come out & the toothless HM C&I will find itself in a drawn out legal wrangle over deportation thanks to ECHR article 8 & all funded by the tax payer. :mad:

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Ya every time I hear about the ECHR I choke, this was the finest thing that Anthony Charles Lynton Blair bid in politics, or so he said, when he signed up to this act, well its made sure is wife and her mates at nonce's are us, can earn a big fat living defending these cases on Legal Aide paid for by the British tax payer :mad:

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Let me try and say this before the thought police arrive at the door...we don't know the half of what THEY get up to in money scams. And it make my blood boil when some liberal journalist or newspaper editor sing:mad:s the praises of these 'hard working' people...as if British people, yea white people, had never ever been confronted with hard work.

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Being Asian myself, I know what its all about. It's to keep your car away from bad luck such as a crash. A load of rubbish if you ask me. I mean I've had a few cars an not bothered with the black material thing... I'm still alive haha.