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Bob Dobson 01-07-2012 21:10
Adrian Shurmer (Shurmer's Guide)
 
Adrian, compiler and publisher of a guide book that should be in every home in Accrington, died this morning. The Big 'C'' He was a much-loved, jovial bloke and family man.Since retiring from the police he has been self-employed as a driving instructor specialising in HGVs.

jaysay 02-07-2012 09:07
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Sad to hear that, Adrian was a larger than life character, believed fervently about save driving, and his Guide was probably the best street guide in the country, I have one on my desk even today and use it quite regularly

cashman 02-07-2012 10:07
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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1000697)
It's Shurmer, Bob.
Bob was using Jaysays keyboard.:D

entwisi 02-07-2012 10:16
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met him when I worked at Romers... was a nice bloke RIP

maxthecollie 02-07-2012 10:58
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I still havea Shurmer's Guide . Very informative. R.I.P. Adrian

Retlaw 02-07-2012 11:55
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I knew Adrian very well from his time in the police.
Another good bloke gone before his time.

Retlaw

maxthecollie 02-07-2012 15:27
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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1000763)
I knew Adrian very well from his time in the police.
Another good bloke gone before his time.

Retlaw
Was he a traffic cop?

jaysay 02-07-2012 17:13
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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1000791)
Was he a traffic cop?
He certainly was Frank, and the kind of a bloke you didn't argue with a big lad, but safe driving was his passion

Gremlin 02-07-2012 18:46
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I met up with him once with a good mate of mine who was a traffic cop with Adrian.

He was telling us about an idea he had to cut a lot of traffic out from the Clayton lights.
He said a road from Gt Harwood road end, behind Clayton le Moors and out near the Dunk and then to the M65 or Hyndburn road would make life easier for the locals.

I don't think anybody ever took it up though I may be wrong. Maybe now he is no longer with us some Councillor may put it forwards as his own idea.

susie123 02-07-2012 19:13
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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1000820)
I met up with him once with a good mate of mine who was a traffic cop with Adrian.

He was telling us about an idea he had to cut a lot of traffic out from the Clayton lights.
He said a road from Gt Harwood road end, behind Clayton le Moors and out near the Dunk and then to the M65 or Hyndburn road would make life easier for the locals.

I don't think anybody ever took it up though I may be wrong. Maybe now he is no longer with us some Councillor may put it forwards as his own idea.
This article mentions the scheme, Gremlin

Bus station plan to make roads safer | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

It also talks about his ideas for a new Accy bus station, which were obviously rejected in favour of a scheme which according to the article should have been started six years ago!

Bernard Dawson 02-07-2012 19:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1000820)
I met up with him once with a good mate of mine who was a traffic cop with Adrian.

He was telling us about an idea he had to cut a lot of traffic out from the Clayton lights.
He said a road from Gt Harwood road end, behind Clayton le Moors and out near the Dunk and then to the M65 or Hyndburn road would make life easier for the locals.

I don't think anybody ever took it up though I may be wrong. Maybe now he is no longer with us some Councillor may put it forwards as his own idea.
It was looked at few years ago when Adrian put it forward, but finding the money was the problem. It would have made a big difference to the traffic flow in Clayton. But building new roads is an expensive business.

Gremlin 02-07-2012 19:23
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I never saw the article in the Observer Susie, it's very rare I read it.

susie123 02-07-2012 19:28
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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1000830)
I never saw the article in the Observer Susie, it's very rare I read it.
Neither do I, and it is eight years old. I just happened to find it on the net.

jaysay 03-07-2012 09:32
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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 1000827)
It was looked at few years ago when Adrian put it forward, but finding the money was the problem. It would have made a big difference to the traffic flow in Clayton. But building new roads is an expensive business.
Quite argee on this one Bernard ideas are fine paying for them is another matter

Atarah 04-07-2012 20:12
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Here is a lovely mention of Adrian - I feel honoured to have known him.
Former Great Harwood councillor and police instructor dies aged 69 (From Lancashire Telegraph)

AccyGirl 07-07-2012 14:00
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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 1001232)
Here is a lovely mention of Adrian - I feel honoured to have known him.
Former Great Harwood councillor and police instructor dies aged 69 (From Lancashire Telegraph)
I met Adrian in 1988/89, he told me about an idea he had for a tour bus around Hyndburn with a guide on board with microphone, pointing out all the interesting points around the area..he also gave me a copy of his newly published red cover 'Official Guide to Hyndburn' ..I still have it and as I don't live in Hyndburn, it is in mint condition..I will always keep it....Adrian was a real gentleman.

Atarah 11-07-2012 21:21
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There was a lovely memorial service for Adrian on Tuesday at Sparth House, CLM.

A true gentleman! The world could do with more like him.

Bob Dobson 12-07-2012 08:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AccyGirl (Post 1001595)
I met Adrian in 1988/89, he told me about an idea he had for a tour bus around Hyndburn with a guide on board with microphone, pointing out all the interesting points around the area..he also gave me a copy of his newly published red cover 'Official Guide to Hyndburn' ..I still have it and as I don't live in Hyndburn, it is in mint condition..I will always keep it....Adrian was a real gentleman.
Keep hold of this - invaluable. No Accrington house should be without one.

jaysay 12-07-2012 08:45
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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1002367)
Keep hold of this - invaluable. No Accrington house should be without one.
Ya considering another I saw Bob, which was crap in comparison

susie123 14-07-2012 12:26
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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1002367)
Keep hold of this - invaluable. No Accrington house should be without one.
Had to see what everyone was on about - just bought one, £2.50 plus postage on ebay. The red cover 1989 edition, very good condition. What a lot of work must have gone into that publication.

Retlaw 14-07-2012 13:51
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1002731)
Had to see what everyone was on about - just bought one, £2.50 plus postage on ebay. The red cover 1989 edition, very good condition. What a lot of work must have gone into that publication.
Like the Fire Brigade, the police also kept an index of streets in their patch. In the Fire brigade ours was a card index system, which not only listed all the streets, backs, alleys, ginnals, courts & yards,
all the hydrants, ours had all the farms and small holdings as well, when Accrington became the Div HQ, we also added all the other stations in our patch to the card index, one of my jobs was to keep the index up to date. I made it into a book one for every machine in the division. I still have the original draft copy.
Now it has gone computerised, one day when I called in the Fire Station I was given a demo of the new system, so I challenged it and won 7/10, their new system was based on post codes, not every building especially outlying ones have a post code, the post office don't deliver, you collect your own.

Adrian was crafty when he made his street guide, I asked him about some of the streets & places that didn't exist, he said it was to catch the plagarists, which he did on more than one occassion.

Retlaw

jaysay 14-07-2012 14:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1002749)
Like the Fire Brigade, the police also kept an index of streets in their patch. In the Fire brigade ours was a card index system, which not only listed all the streets, backs, alleys, ginnals, courts & yards,
all the hydrants, ours had all the farms and small holdings as well, when Accrington became the Div HQ, we also added all the other stations in our patch to the card index, one of my jobs was to keep the index up to date. I made it into a book one for every machine in the division. I still have the original draft copy.
Now it has gone computerised, one day when I called in the Fire Station I was given a demo of the new system, so I challenged it and won 7/10, their new system was based on post codes, not every building especially outlying ones have a post code, the post office don't deliver, you collect your own.

Adrian was crafty when he made his street guide, I asked him about some of the streets & places that didn't exist, he said it was to catch the plagarists, which he did on more than one occassion.

Retlaw
Hey Walter I've just found out we have a Mole St in Ossy ya ever hear of that one before I hadn't, even though it was within 300 yards from where I was fetched up:D

susie123 14-07-2012 14:55
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1002776)
Hey Walter I've just found out we have a Mole St in Ossy ya ever hear of that one before I hadn't, even though it was within 300 yards from where I was fetched up:D
That's not in the edition I've just acquired John.

jaysay 14-07-2012 15:04
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1002779)
That's not in the edition I've just acquired John.
No I know, somebody told me about it the other week and I hadn't a clue where it was, until they told me, it must be a revived name from years ago, but somebody has refurbished some old store rooms and made them into cottages so they now need a postal address, its down some steps at the end of spring street, leading to the Straights, played round there when I was a kid

susie123 14-07-2012 15:20
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1002782)
No I know, somebody told me about it the other week and I hadn't a clue where it was, until they told me, it must be a revived name from years ago, but somebody has refurbished some old store rooms and made them into cottages so they now need a postal address, its down some steps at the end of spring street, leading to the Straights, played round there when I was a kid
There used to be a Mole street in Accy, leading off Whalley road between Castle street and Kenyon street, according to the 1910 OS map.

Retlaw 14-07-2012 19:05
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1002786)
There used to be a Mole street in Accy, leading off Whalley road between Castle street and Kenyon street, according to the 1910 OS map.
The sign is still on the wall, facing the Veterinary's car park.

Retlaw 14-07-2012 19:10
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1002776)
Hey Walter I've just found out we have a Mole St in Ossy ya ever hear of that one before I hadn't, even though it was within 300 yards from where I was fetched up:D
Never heard of that but not surprised seein as tha wur fotched up theer. Pity tha wurned born in Accy we used to ave a Sink St, thad wud a bin an ideal place fur thee.:hesoff:

susie123 14-07-2012 20:02
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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1002830)
The sign is still on the wall, facing the Veterinary's car park.
Just had a look on Streetview, that's the sign for Kenyon street. Think Mole st disappeared when they knocked down the Methodist church, or before. I was born and raised round there, don't ever remember the name being mentioned.

Retlaw 14-07-2012 20:43
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1002838)
Just had a look on Streetview, that's the sign for Kenyon street. Think Mole st disappeared when they knocked down the Methodist church, or before. I was born and raised round there, don't ever remember the name being mentioned.
Not interested in what street view shows now, both John Kelly & I used to use Mole St, as a trick question for newcomers to the Fire Station, when we were having street quizes, we used to have a ten min session on street names during lecture time, we both knew the street had gone, but the sign was still there, Mole St was facing end on to the 4th House on Britcliffe Row.
There are a lot of names not shown on the 1909 street map, several fire calls we had from the older generations were still using names for their streets, even though they had been changed & were no longer on street guides, we had to know those as well.
Are you challenging my knowledge of the streets in Hyndburn, because if you are, your gonna lose big time.
Where's Butchers Alley.

Retlaw.

jaysay 15-07-2012 09:39
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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1002831)
Never heard of that but not surprised seein as tha wur fotched up theer. Pity tha wurned born in Accy we used to ave a Sink St, thad wud a bin an ideal place fur thee.:hesoff:
Think the ideal place for thee would have been stink street ya oud goat:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

Judith Addison 18-07-2012 16:05
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The street in Ossy described by Jaysay is called Moon Street (down the steps from Spring Street to the Straits). The renovated property described was given the address 4 Moon Street. Don't know whether it's any connection with Sun Street (off Lord Street facing side of Ossy Civic, was Town Hall).

Judith Addison 18-07-2012 16:08
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I already posted on Facebook that I found Shurmer's Guide invaluable during my 25 year stint as Local Land Charges Officer at Hyndburn Borough Council (doing Local Searches for house and property purchases). The Council didn't produce its own street guide but it would have been hard to improve on Adrian Shurmer's. Sorry to hear of his death!

susie123 18-07-2012 16:09
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Originally Posted by Judith Addison (Post 1003353)
The street in Ossy described by Jaysay is called Moon Street (down the steps from Spring Street to the Straits). The renovated property described was given the address 4 Moon Street. Don't know whether it's any connection with Sun Street (off Lord Street facing side of Ossy Civic, was Town Hall).
The curse of Jaysay strikes again! No wonder it's not on the map as Mole Street!

Davemac posted a photo of the Moon Street sign a few weeks ago.

susie123 18-07-2012 16:51
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1003355)
The curse of Jaysay strikes again! No wonder it's not on the map as Mole Street!

Davemac posted a photo of the Moon Street sign a few weeks ago.
Phew! found it eventually!

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...t-61505-6.html

jaysay 18-07-2012 17:48
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Originally Posted by Judith Addison (Post 1003353)
The street in Ossy described by Jaysay is called Moon Street (down the steps from Spring Street to the Straits). The renovated property described was given the address 4 Moon Street. Don't know whether it's any connection with Sun Street (off Lord Street facing side of Ossy Civic, was Town Hall).
Thanks Judith I new it started with an M:D we're just waiting for Star Street then we'll have a full house:D

jaysay 18-07-2012 17:50
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1003355)
The curse of Jaysay strikes again! No wonder it's not on the map as Mole Street!

Davemac posted a photo of the Moon Street sign a few weeks ago.
Ya but the street was non existent for many years its only just reared its head quite recently

cashman 18-07-2012 18:24
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1003377)
Ya but the street was non existent for many years its only just reared its head quite recently
Well it is only a full moon,every so often.:D

Judith Addison 18-07-2012 22:06
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There was a Star Street in the Antley area of Accrington, off Newark Street - Mercer's Printers used to be in that area. Now the area's been redeveloped with new housing I'm wondering whether Star Street has now disappeared off the map?

susie123 18-07-2012 22:12
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Originally Posted by Judith Addison (Post 1003462)
There was a Star Street in the Antley area of Accrington, off Newark Street - Mercer's Printers used to be in that area. Now the area's been redeveloped with new housing I'm wondering whether Star Street has now disappeared off the map?
Just checked on Google satellite - it's still there parallel to Newark Street and running down to Blackburn Road. Big green space on one side and what look like derelict buildings on the other. Of course all may have changed since that pic was taken.

jaysay 19-07-2012 09:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judith Addison (Post 1003462)
There was a Star Street in the Antley area of Accrington, off Newark Street - Mercer's Printers used to be in that area. Now the area's been redeveloped with new housing I'm wondering whether Star Street has now disappeared off the map?
Ya Judith but there's never been one in the galaxy of good old Ossy:D

Bob Dobson 20-07-2012 20:55
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Mole Street is only in the underground edition of Adrian's book.

jaysay 21-07-2012 08:54
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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1003824)
Mole Street is only in the underground edition of Adrian's book.
What ya rabbiting on about Bob:D

susie123 21-07-2012 09:36
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1003865)
What ya rabbiting on about Bob:D
I'll warren(t) he doesn't really know.

Bob Dobson 21-07-2012 09:44
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Susie, what are your rabitting on about? Of course I know - I was born in the burrow of Accrington.

jaysay 21-07-2012 10:08
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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1003879)
Susie, what are your rabitting on about? Of course I know - I was born in the burrow of Accrington.
Nice one Bob:mosher:

susie123 21-07-2012 10:27
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Think I'm going to have to stop digging on this one.


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