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West Ender 24-12-2008 15:33
In Praise of Rabbie
 
No, not Burns, I mean Rab C Nesbitt, Glasgow street philosopher, who turned up on BBC2 last night after 10 years absence.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...in_563568a.jpg It was great to see Rab again, now "on the wagon", apart from 1 disastrous slip up (that Jamesie Cotter has a lot to answer for). Fingers crossed this will be the start of a new series. :D

cashman 24-12-2008 16:39
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loved to see the guy again, been well missed by me.:);)

shillelagh 26-12-2008 18:27
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Hes on tonight repeats on Paramount Comedy 2 at 9pm -midnight ...

MargaretR 26-12-2008 18:43
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I used to enjoy Rab C Nesbitt and watched this new show, but I struggled to understand it this time because his accent seems more pronounced than before.
I switched channels because I lost patience trying to understand - perhaps I should have tried to switch on some subtitles:confused:

West Ender 29-12-2008 15:58
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 663165)
I used to enjoy Rab C Nesbitt and watched this new show, but I struggled to understand it this time because his accent seems more pronounced than before.
I switched channels because I lost patience trying to understand - perhaps I should have tried to switch on some subtitles:confused:

I think you're right, Margaret. I'm pretty good with accents but there were times when I had to guess at the odd phrase. Maybe he can't speak so well when he's sober. ;)

garinda 29-12-2008 16:13
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I thought the use of subtitles, after so many complaints from the Sassenachs, was a touch of comic genius.

Besides that it was okay-ish, but didn't produce many belly laughs from me, which it used to.

Retlaw 29-12-2008 17:41
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 663165)
I used to enjoy Rab C Nesbitt and watched this new show, but I struggled to understand it this time because his accent seems more pronounced than before.
I switched channels because I lost patience trying to understand - perhaps I should have tried to switch on some subtitles:confused:
I don't think there were any subtitles, don't like them any way,
by the time you've read them, the scene has changed.

How about forcing the TV broadcasters into every thing has to be dubbed in a Lanky accent.

Retlaw

garinda 29-12-2008 17:46
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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 664012)
I don't think there were any subtitles, don't like them any way,
by the time you've read them, the scene has changed.

How about forcing the TV broadcasters into every thing has to be dubbed in a Lanky accent.

Retlaw
The subtitles weren't used all the way through, just for one particular conversation.

West Ender 29-12-2008 17:55
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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 664012)
How about forcing the TV broadcasters into every thing has to be dubbed in a Lanky accent.

Retlaw

Brilliant idea. Imagine the Lone Ranger, at the end, when someone says,
"Ony road, 'oo were yon mon in t'mask?", and re-runs of Brief Encounter when Trevor Howard says to Celia Johnson,
"Tha're gunna miss thi train, love".

Maybe they could even apply it to Coronation St. instead of the Yorkshire accents so many of the Weatherfield inhabitants have. :p

Retlaw 29-12-2008 18:50
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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 664026)
Brilliant idea. Imagine the Lone Ranger, at the end, when someone says,
"Ony road, 'oo were yon mon in t'mask?", and re-runs of Brief Encounter when Trevor Howard says to Celia Johnson,
"Tha're gunna miss thi train, love".

Maybe they could even apply it to Coronation St. instead of the Yorkshire accents so many of the Weatherfield inhabitants have. :p
He he, just imagine Star Trek, wi Klingon speak translated intu Lanky, often wondered what they were seyin.

Retlaw.

katex 29-12-2008 20:51
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 663165)
I switched channels because I lost patience trying to understand - perhaps I should have tried to switch on some subtitles:confused:
Me too Margaret ..he's not funny at all .. only thing that I thought about was the smell emanating from his string vest.. :s_sick:

katex 29-12-2008 21:00
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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 664026)

Maybe they could even apply it to Coronation St. instead of the Yorkshire accents so many of the Weatherfield inhabitants have. :p

Can't agree on that one West Ender .. the cast may not all do the Mancunian accent (Julie Hesmondhalgh, Vicky Entwistle .. Accy born .. no Manchester there), but can't spot a 'Yarkshire' accent on there as yet.

Lilly 29-12-2008 21:02
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 664100)
Can't agree on that one West Ender .. the cast may not all do the Mancunian accent (Julie Hesmondhalgh, Vicky Entwistle .. Accy born .. no Manchester there), but can't spot a 'Yarkshire' accent on there as yet.
Bev Callard has a very strong Yorkshire accent.

katex 29-12-2008 21:10
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 664103)
Bev Callard has a very strong Yorkshire accent.
Will hold my hand up to that one Lilly .. born in Leeds :D.. ok .. anyone else ?

Lilly 29-12-2008 21:36
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 664106)
Will hold my hand up to that one Lilly .. born in Leeds :D.. ok .. anyone else ?
Jack P. Shepherd who plays David Platt and Katherine Kelly who plays Becky Grainger both have strong Yorkshire accents too. :D

katex 29-12-2008 21:58
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 664120)
Jack P. Shepherd who plays David Platt and Katherine Kelly who plays Becky Grainger both have strong Yorkshire accents too. :D
These two may be Yorkshire born, (you're googling aren't you ?) but they have made every effort to produce a Manchester accent, and is not noticeable. The large percentage of actors from Corrie have been casted locally or old time actresses that can do most accents as per Blanche.

Unfortunately, locally does not mean from Accy as per the two actresses I mentioned earlier. We, at Ossy Players, recently did a play set in Manchester, and no-one made the effort to produce a Mancester accent ('cept me of course ... :D). 'Tis world's apart.

This thread seems to have digressed .. I know, my fault ... apologies West Ender .. LOL.

Lilly 29-12-2008 22:09
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 664133)
These two may be Yorkshire born, (you're googling aren't you ?) but they have made every effort to produce a Manchester accent, and is not noticeable. The large percentage of actors from Corrie have been casted locally or old time actresses that can do most accents as per Blanche.

Unfortunately, locally does not mean from Accy as per the two actresses I mentioned earlier. We, at Ossy Players, recently did a play set in Manchester, and no-one made the effort to produce a Mancester accent ('cept me of course ... :D). 'Tis world's apart.

This thread seems to have digressed .. I know, my fault ... apologies West Ender .. LOL.
LOL yes, apologies Westender. :D

How did we go from Rab C Nesbitt to Yorkshire accents on Corrie? :confused::)

Katex, I haven't googled, but I will if you want. :rolleyes::D

Those were just the ones who came to mind. I think the accents of the three I mentioned are very strong. I don't think they try to cover it up.

Anyway, like you say, we have digressed.

Shall we get back to the smelly one in the vest then? :D

West Ender 29-12-2008 22:29
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No need - I'm digressing too. Sorry but I don't agree, the Yorkshire accents are very noticeable in a lot of Corrie actors, especially David Platt. There are certain words that have a subtly different pronunciation and you can tell the difference if you know the accents. My husband was a Yorkshireman, I've lived in Yorkshire myself and my in-laws still do so I've been hearing the nuances for close on 50 years. ;)

West Ender 29-12-2008 22:31
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 664141)
How did we go from Rab C Nesbitt to Yorkshire accents on Corrie? :confused::)


Er.....it was me, actually! :o

katex 29-12-2008 22:37
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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 664156)
No need - I'm digressing too. Sorry but I don't agree, the Yorkshire accents are very noticeable in a lot of Corrie actors, especially David Platt. There are certain words that have a subtly different pronunciation and you can tell the difference if you know the accents. My husband was a Yorkshireman, I've lived in Yorkshire myself and my in-laws still do so I've been hearing the nuances for close on 50 years. ;)
Ok, agree to a certain extent, very difficult to lose your roots, .. but will say, as you appear to have me cornered, that it is a very small percentage of the actors in Corrie that are from Yorkshire. The Southerners wouldn't spot the difference anyway. (Good tactic that Kate .. blaming them Southerners ... :D)

Still can't understand Rab though West Ender, or his sense of humour. Good to hear that he has come out of a bad time though.

garinda 29-12-2008 22:40
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I'd much rather listen to Yorkshire born Becky and Bev's warm brogue, than the flat Manky vowels typified by the Gallagher brothers, Liam, Noel...and Frank.:D

Lilly 30-12-2008 14:52
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 664161)
I'd much rather listen to Yorkshire born Becky and Bev's warm brogue, than the flat Manky vowels typified by the Gallagher brothers, Liam, Noel...and Frank.:D
Yes, they're horrible aren't they?

West Ender 30-12-2008 21:13
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My son and daughter-in-law have lived in Manchester for the last 17 years and I worked there, on and off, for 5 years. The Manchester accent is, frankly, 'orrible. Salford is similar - but worse. On Corrie the best exponents of 'orrible Mancunian accents are Kirk, Maria (though hers is somewhat tempered by elocution) and, lately, Les Battersby.

Those members of the cast who are Lancastrian by birth and intonation fit into the programme well, though their accents vary considerably. My comment about the Yorkshire accents was facetious, being a proud Lancastrian, but, none the less, relevant


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