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heth 04-01-2011 07:14

Eastenders
 
I know not may of you watch this particullar soap :p but can I just say even I am disgusted with the story line at the moment.
How can Kat not tell that her baby has been swapped? (surely not 2 babies identical???) The baby's stopped in the same bleeding clothes so is this not a big givaway??? :rolleyes:
Apparently S'tenders is going to try and keep this story line going for years.
Not one that I agree with.........................even I have stopped watching it while this is all going on

flashy 04-01-2011 08:27

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i heard about the fact that they want it to run for years on 'This Morning' yesterday, i think its bad, can't watch it either, a lot of people are going mad about it on digital spy, refusing to watch it

heth 04-01-2011 08:38

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I can understand to a degree that they like to run "real life stories" but to me this seems to be going too far and will put alot of people off rather than watch it.
Christmas/New Year is a dark time for many people with-out this story line to go ahead.

I know, I know its not real!!!! ;)

entwisi 04-01-2011 09:29

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to put cot death on a "popular" tv sit com is disgusting. For all those who have suffered this terrible curse it must have been like a knife in the heart again. There is a point where they shouldn't go beyond and this time they have crossed it imho.

Julie and I havent watched it since the "births" and TBH I'm not planning on again for a long time.

jaysay 04-01-2011 10:17

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Another reason I don't watch deadenders

heth 05-01-2011 06:50

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I can believe that there are that many complaints Flashy and think there will be more. Not 1 person I know who watches the soap is watching it at the min. Hopefully they will cut this storyline short when there viewing figures drop.

heth 05-01-2011 06:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 873157)
to put cot death on a "popular" tv sit com is disgusting. For all those who have suffered this terrible curse it must have been like a knife in the heart again. There is a point where they shouldn't go beyond and this time they have crossed it imho.

Julie and I havent watched it since the "births" and TBH I'm not planning on again for a long time.


I agree entwisi, it just brings back bad times for people who have suffered this terrible thing :mad: they havent even made it believable, like I have said earlier are 2 babys that identical?? :confused:

pipinfort 05-01-2011 19:41

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This is not the first time Eastenders has featured a cot death. Sue Osman`s baby, Hassan also died from a cot death in 1985.I don`t remember the same public outcry back then.................

buttonsmum 05-01-2011 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 873489)
This is not the first time Eastenders has featured a cot death. Sue Osman`s baby, Hassan also died from a cot death in 1985.I don`t remember the same public outcry back then.................

Yes, but that storyline wasn't so unbelievable and in such bad taste. In real life no-one in their right mind would swap their dead baby with another. I think it was disgusting to screen such a story as it will have brought home the horrible reminders to those who have gone through a cot death or lost a baby at whatever stage of their pregnancy at a time of year when people should be celebrating and enjoying themselves.

To anyone that has ever lost a child, (me being one of them close to christmas time), this storyline is one that brings back those horrible reminders and memories of what you have been through and could have been when all you want to do is get on with life and try to move on.

Both myself and Ian will not be watching this programme again until this ridiculous storyline has ended.

flashy 05-01-2011 21:38

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well said Julie

heth 06-01-2011 06:12

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Samantha Womack 'quits EastEnders over controversial cot death storyline' | Mail Online

Samantha Womack has quit now over this storyline, apparently when she found out about the storyline she handed in her notice straight away but they still managed to pursude her to film it???
If you felt that it was so wrong that you handed your notice in then surely you wouldnt film the scenes? :confused:

flashy 06-01-2011 06:14

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depends whats in her contract though

heth 06-01-2011 06:23

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 873527)
depends whats in her contract though


True, but if you feel that strongly about how upsetting and distressing the story line is then you just wouldnt film it, imho no matter what money they are offering you.


"Womack is thought to have told bosses she is 'a mother first and an actress second' before announcing she will be leaving the show in May."

flashy 06-01-2011 07:28

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she did hault the filming at one point, she'll have to work out her contract

gynn 06-01-2011 07:43

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Cast sob filming EastEnders’ cot death | The Sun |Showbiz|TV|Soaps

The cast had to be offered counselling after filming the scene.

And did you see the programme about Mike Reid over Christmas, where his widow claimed the storylines he had on Eastenders were so depressing that they drove him down in real life.

It sounds as though they have overstepped the mark on this one, and it also seems they have got it totally wrong. There was a lady doctor on Sky News who specialises in advising bereaved cot death mothers. Her experience is that the last thing a bereaved mother would want is someone else's baby. They want their own baby back.

heth 06-01-2011 07:58

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Didnt see the Mike Reid programme Gynn but can imagine that it would get actors down when they have had to film upsetting scenes all day.
Agree with the doc on Sky though, totally unbelievable that you would go and nick some-one else's baby.

Lancashire Lassie 06-01-2011 14:58

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i think it is a bit risky too.

a bit close to peoples hearts but i suppose it is only the same for when they film a story line for being rapied or abused or a cancer story etc.

I should have a step brother my age but he died of cot death at 6 months old, im glad my stepdad doesnt have the time to watch the soaps! :( xxx

pipinfort 06-01-2011 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancashire Lassie (Post 873585)
a bit close to peoples hearts but i suppose it is only the same for when they film a story line for being raped or abused or a cancer story etc.


This is a very good point. I have found other storylines more upsetting than this one for the simple reason that i have had experienced them in real life, this is a soap opera and storylines for soaps are taken from real events and news stories.(although the baby swap could be pure fiction). People are`nt being forced to watch

heth 06-01-2011 15:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancashire Lassie (Post 873585)
a bit close to peoples hearts but i suppose it is only the same for when they film a story line for being rapied or abused or a cancer story etc.

Like you say every soap has to do these storyline's that you mentioned above to make the programme realistic, but this particular one is so un-realistic its untrue!

They might not have had people complaining as much if they had just left it to the cot death, not then for Ronnie to go and swap her dead child with Kats alive baby.

pipinfort 06-01-2011 15:17

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I think the baby swapping bit is what is upsetting people the most........

heth 06-01-2011 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 873596)
I think the baby swapping bit is what is upsetting people the most........

Aye thats what it is, and that they have put this dreadful storyline on around the Christmas/New Year period. Not really a good idea.:rolleyes:

Like I said before if they had left the baby swap out I think that they would not have any complaints.

Taggy 06-01-2011 19:37

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I've havn't seen the last couple of episodes, in fact i only watch the soaps when my lads stayin with me, but how is it that they havn't found out its not their baby, surely when there's a cot death wouldn't there be a series of tests performed on the baby, & during these it would come to light that it aint the right child?

Best Regards - Taggy

AccyLass 06-01-2011 22:25

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Nobody in their "right" mind would swap a deceased baby for someone else's living baby.
Personally I think they are trying to get across to viewers how not of her right mind she actually is. She has had quite a bit of trauma just recently and just 1 of these events could be enough to tip someone over the edge, let alone the 3 or more events that she has been through.
It is going to show that some people can't handle everything that life throws at them.

vera 07-01-2011 07:35

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Well said, i agree with you. It is showing someone who is crying out for help in the only way they know how.

MargaretR 07-01-2011 07:47

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What pleasure do soap fans get from watching these story lines depicting misery?

Does it make you comfortable thinking that some people are having a harder time than you?

jaysay 07-01-2011 08:47

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I actual saw a bit of it last night, the only reason being I#d been watching the Northwest News and Celebrity Mastermind whilst on AW and it was still on, what a load of tommyrot, hell if you weren't depressed before you would be after watching this tripe

heth 07-01-2011 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 873816)
What pleasure do soap fans get from watching these story lines depicting misery?

Does it make you comfortable thinking that some people are having a harder time than you?


Each to thier own Margaret, each to thier own ;)

heth 07-01-2011 09:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 873826)
I actual saw a bit of it last night, the only reason being I#d been watching the Northwest News and Celebrity Mastermind whilst on AW and it was still on, what a load of tommyrot, hell if you weren't depressed before you would be after watching this tripe


Yeah alright John :rolleyes: I think secretly you are a fan but trying to hide it!!! ;) heeheehee

I am still not watching it so dont know what is happening at the min, Corrie were good last night though! :D

jaysay 07-01-2011 09:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heth (Post 873831)
Yeah alright John :rolleyes: I think secretly you are a fan but trying to hide it!!! ;) heeheehee

I am still not watching it so dont know what is happening at the min, Corrie were good last night though! :D

A FAN:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:I'd sooner poke my eye out with a red hot poker, it would be less painful ;)

Alan Varrechia 07-01-2011 17:46

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How come no one in stenders has got a washing machine, yhey all seem to go to the bag wash!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

flashy 07-01-2011 17:56

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they are axing the storyline now because they have had too many complaints

jaysay 07-01-2011 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 873967)
they are axing the storyline now because they have had too many complaints

Its a pity they ain't axing the show:D

flashy 07-01-2011 18:10

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BBC bosses axe EastEnders baby swap plot earlier than planned - mirror.co.uk

Plans to continue the story until Christmas have been scrapped and Kat, played by Jessie Wallace, will be reunited with baby Tommy by the spring.

DaveinGermany 07-01-2011 18:11

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Personally I can't be doing with any of it & seeing as this storyline has caused so many complaints, well this one will have the outraged masses in further uproar ! As to what the Daily Pink will make of it ?

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Bernard Dawson 07-01-2011 18:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 873961)
How come no one in stenders has got a washing machine, yhey all seem to go to the bag wash!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

How come also in soaps they all go to the same pub. And the pub always seem to have a lot in. Not exactly reflecting real life with pubs shutting all over the place. I know it's only a soap, but I just find it comical.

DaveinGermany 07-01-2011 18:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 873980)
How come also in soaps they all go to the same pub. And the pub always seem to have a lot in.

Don't you think that if you lived in such a depressing "Village of the damned" wouldn't you spend all your time down the Pub ? :rolleyes:

kestrelx 07-01-2011 21:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 873816)
What pleasure do soap fans get from watching these story lines depicting misery?

Does it make you comfortable thinking that some people are having a harder time than you?

I agree with you Margaret, why do these people keep wanting to watch the same misery repeated - this particular character Ronnie, lost her daughther in a car accident last year, which was pretty bleak - this story line is just more misery for her. I didn't watch it but I think it's abhorent!

gynn 08-01-2011 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 873980)
How come also in soaps they all go to the same pub. And the pub always seem to have a lot in.

And in both Eastenders and Coronation Street, characters moan about being short of money, then go and eat in the local cafe. :confused:

jaysay 08-01-2011 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 874127)
And in both Eastenders and Coronation Street, characters moan about being short of money, then go and eat in the local cafe. :confused:

Ya but not many seem to go on a cruise for their holidays gynn;)

Romps 08-01-2011 14:23

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Both myself and Ian will not be watching this programme again until this ridiculous storyline has ended.[/quote]

I agree Julie. In fact do what I do and don't watch the drivel at all!! Can't do with soaps, period!! Dont watch trash like X-Factor of Talent shows, they just annoy the heck out of me!!!

jaysay 08-01-2011 14:35

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Well seeing its such a terrible plot line and there have been about 8000 complaints, which is a record for Eastenders I think, the viewing figures have gone through the ceiling, nearly 12 million watched on Friday night, funny old world

DaveinGermany 08-01-2011 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 874154)
nearly 12 million watched on Friday night, funny old world

Morbid curiosity I believe it's called, people hear how bad or horrible something is & they go & have a look. "Gaffers" who slow down to look at accidents & someone else's misfortunes, it is though part of Human nature so folk will never change, but some can resist better than others.

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2011 16:39

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I think this subject has been treated with insensitivity.
In my work, I came into contact with many bereaved parents.....I could not see any of them being so crassly selfish as to deprive another mother of her child to ease their own feelings. The only thing these parents wish for, is to have their own child healthy, and back in the family circle.

I am sure this has been painful for bereaved parents to watch....and it doesn't matter how long ago the bereavement happened, the wound is still there.

Eastenders cannot undo the damage that has been done, but they should take the story line out of the program.....NOW, not wait until spring.

heth 09-01-2011 08:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 874154)
Well seeing its such a terrible plot line and there have been about 8000 complaints, which is a record for Eastenders I think, the viewing figures have gone through the ceiling, nearly 12 million watched on Friday night, funny old world


Are you one of the 12 million watching it John?! ;)
I still have not watched it since just after Christmas.

heth 09-01-2011 08:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 874201)
Eastenders cannot undo the damage that has been done, but they should take the story line out of the program.....NOW, not wait until spring.


Totally agree with you Margaret, although I think the other half wishes it went on all year as he has been enjoying me not making him watch it!!! :rolleyes:

jaysay 09-01-2011 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heth (Post 874299)
Are you one of the 12 million watching it John?! ;)
I still have not watched it since just after Christmas.

Soon poke my eyes out with redhot needles heth, its "car crash TV"

jaysay 09-01-2011 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heth (Post 874300)
he has been enjoying me not making him watch it!!! :rolleyes:

:eek::eek::eek::eek: you are jesting me making him watch it:eek::eek::eek::eek:

jaysay 10-01-2011 18:43

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http://home.bt.yahoo.com/_ylt=AqW3Cm...storyline.html
They just don't learn do they, now they are going to feature a teen prostitute story line

Taggy 10-01-2011 21:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 874573)
EastEnders confirms sex exploitation storyline | TV Soap Blog | TV Soap Gossip | News ? Yahoo! TV UK
They just don't learn do they, now they are going to feature a teen prostitute story line

Wonder if She'll be groomed by Asian Men???:D

Best Regards - Taggy

MargaretR 11-01-2011 04:58

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This junk TV programme is only there because people watch it - masochists!

jaysay 11-01-2011 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 874614)
This junk TV programme is only there because people watch it - masochists!

Not guilty:D

kestrelx 12-01-2011 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 874614)
This junk TV programme is only there because people watch it - masochists!

How soaps work is by viewers making emotional bonds with charaters that keeps them watching as they then become like members of ones own life.:cool:

Janine's leaving for good! I don't watch it anymore but not because she's out! :do-one:

jaysay 12-01-2011 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 874792)
How soaps work is by viewers making emotional bonds with charaters that keeps them watching as they then become like members of ones own life.:cool:

Janine's leaving for good! I don't watch it anymore but not because she's out! :do-one:

Your well informed seeing you don't watch it any more:D:D

panther 12-01-2011 18:50

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Eastenders is the only thing i look forward to on a boring sunday afternoon...haha

heth 12-01-2011 19:17

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I am still not watching it..........

jaysay 13-01-2011 09:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panther (Post 874876)
Eastenders is the only thing i look forward to on a boring sunday afternoon...haha

:eek::eek:And I thought that I now had a totally boring existance:rolleyes:;):D

heth 23-01-2011 16:36

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Mum tells how EastEnders plot made her to confess how she was jailed for a baby snatch - mirror.co.uk

This took a while before someone sold their story........


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