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jaysay 23-04-2012 18:39

Vera
 
Did anybody watch the new cop series on ITV1 last night set in the North East, staring Brenda Blethyn, as a detective, didn't really fancy it but the other have wanted to watch and I was quite surprised, quite good really

Bob Dobson 23-04-2012 21:16

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Vera Duckworth - I haven't seen her in a while. She must be good if she can change to a North East accent.

mobertol 24-04-2012 15:48

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Saw the trailers for this last week -looked interesting. Brenda Blethyn is a great actress, have seen in her in a few interesting films, she does quite a lot of alternative, non-mainstream work.

kestrelx 24-04-2012 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 987399)
Saw the trailers for this last week -looked interesting. Brenda Blethyn is a great actress, have seen in her in a few interesting films, she does quite a lot of alternative, non-mainstream work.

I saw some of the last series, thought it a bit slow.

How much do you think they get paid for staring in one of those detective series - like Morse, Frost etc etc on average? I don't know at a guess I'd say about £250,000 for a series!

jaysay 24-04-2012 17:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 987419)
I saw some of the last series, thought it a bit slow.

How much do you think they get paid for staring in one of those detective series - like Morse, Frost etc etc on average? I don't know at a guess I'd say about £250,000 for a series!

Think your a bit off target kestrelx some extras get as much as £1000 for one day

mobertol 24-04-2012 20:17

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I have a friend who does extra work on Corrie for £100 a day! If she appears it's for a few seconds with nothing to say...

kestrelx 24-04-2012 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 987421)
Think your a bit off target kestrelx some extras get as much as £1000 for one day

Who told you that? is that for films or TV there is a difference - films have bigger budgets than some TV stuff.

kestrelx 24-04-2012 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 987442)
I have a friend who does extra work on Corrie for £100 a day! If she appears it's for a few seconds with nothing to say...

Well that's 900 less than Jaysay said! :rolleyes:

jaysay 25-04-2012 08:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 987457)
Well that's 900 less than Jaysay said! :rolleyes:

My other have has been a TV extra for 7 or 8 years now and I do know just a little about what they get paid

wadey 25-04-2012 11:28

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This is the second series but I've given up on it as they haven't got the accents right, there's some background here

The Vera Stanhope books, by Ann Cleeves

jaysay 25-04-2012 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wadey (Post 987516)
This is the second series but I've given up on it as they haven't got the accents right, there's some background here

The Vera Stanhope books, by Ann Cleeves

Somehow I missed the first series wadey, doesn't even ring a bell, thought it was new, thanks for the like

ToffeeGuy 25-04-2012 23:17

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Not a bad programme, saved mainly by a good performance by Brenda Blethyn.

But it gets on my nerves when the plots don't add up, characters don't react in a realistic way or a character doesn't reveal an important piece of evidence until the last 10 mins.

Like in Sunday's episode when the policeman's daughter who was in the fire buried the body of the main suspect. I thought he'd died when they were making petrol bombs so it was an accident and she had done nothing wrong, so why get rid of the body?

And why didn't the woman who was pregnant by the suspected man tell the police that she had spoken to the woman who had buried him?

It could be cut down to an hour.

There's only one TV tec for me and that's Morse. They were well written, beautifully filmed and John Thaw was perfectly cast. One of the best shows ever on British TV.

I'd give an honourable mention to Juliet Bravo as well. Local locations and simple, well written drama about old fashioned bobbies on the beat.

jaysay 26-04-2012 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy (Post 987631)
Not a bad programme, saved mainly by a good performance by Brenda Blethyn.

But it gets on my nerves when the plots don't add up, characters don't react in a realistic way or a character doesn't reveal an important piece of evidence until the last 10 mins.

Like in Sunday's episode when the policeman's daughter who was in the fire buried the body of the main suspect. I thought he'd died when they were making petrol bombs so it was an accident and she had done nothing wrong, so why get rid of the body?

And why didn't the woman who was pregnant by the suspected man tell the police that she had spoken to the woman who had buried him?

It could be cut down to an hour.

There's only one TV tec for me and that's Morse. They were well written, beautifully filmed and John Thaw was perfectly cast. One of the best shows ever on British TV.

I'd give an honourable mention to Juliet Bravo as well. Local locations and simple, well written drama about old fashioned bobbies on the beat.

I agree about Juliet Bravo, I was actually based in Bacup when they were making that series and they used Bacup nick as to outside shots for the program, often saw some of the actors in and about the town at the time

kestrelx 26-04-2012 23:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 987653)
I agree about Juliet Bravo, I was actually based in Bacup when they were making that series and they used Bacup nick as to outside shots for the program, often saw some of the actors in and about the town at the time

I bet you saw it from the inside of a cell! You were based in side! ;) :D

kestrelx 26-04-2012 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy (Post 987631)
Not a bad programme, saved mainly by a good performance by Brenda Blethyn.

But it gets on my nerves when the plots don't add up, characters don't react in a realistic way or a character doesn't reveal an important piece of evidence until the last 10 mins.

Like in Sunday's episode when the policeman's daughter who was in the fire buried the body of the main suspect. I thought he'd died when they were making petrol bombs so it was an accident and she had done nothing wrong, so why get rid of the body?

And why didn't the woman who was pregnant by the suspected man tell the police that she had spoken to the woman who had buried him?

It could be cut down to an hour.

There's only one TV tec for me and that's Morse. They were well written, beautifully filmed and John Thaw was perfectly cast. One of the best shows ever on British TV.

I'd give an honourable mention to Juliet Bravo as well. Local locations and simple, well written drama about old fashioned bobbies on the beat.

Was that a repeat then as I'm sure there was a plot with a woman being burnt in a fire in the last one.

Morse is one of the best. Frost is a cool runner up and the original Taggart was very gritty - "there's been a murder!" a classic line!:D

wadey 27-04-2012 20:19

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Lynn likes Scott and Bailey, have you spotted where there police station is ?

Alan Varrechia 27-04-2012 21:17

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I've always liked Taggart. But the best for me is the Sweeney. True to life and always full on. :D

jaysay 28-04-2012 08:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 987899)
I've always liked Taggart. But the best for me is the Sweeney. True to life and always full on. :D

We're the Sweeney and we haven't had our diner :D

mobertol 28-04-2012 10:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy (Post 987631)
There's only one TV tec for me and that's Morse. They were well written, beautifully filmed and John Thaw was perfectly cast. One of the best shows ever on British TV.

Am in total agreement -nothing could ever beat Morse (except the original books which are superb to read). :)
Watched a sort of pre-quel, "Endeavour" featuring a young Morse's first case, when I was over recently -my friend had recorded it for me knowing how big a fan of Morse I am! I thought it was really good and loved the actor who played the young Morse -perfect in the role -scope there for a whole new series i should think...

mobertol 28-04-2012 10:58

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Just had a quick "Google" to find the actor's name and it seems there will be more episodes of Endeavour with Shaun Evans in the leading role -definitely something to look forward to!

ITV commissions full series of Morse drama Endeavour | Metro.co.uk
:D

jaysay 28-04-2012 13:34

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 987951)
Just had a quick "Google" to find the actor's name and it seems there will be more episodes of Endeavour with Shaun Evans in the leading role -definitely something to look forward to!

ITV commissions full series of Morse drama Endeavour | Metro.co.uk
:D

Who plays Lewis:confused::D

kestrelx 28-04-2012 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 987967)
Who plays Lewis:confused::D


In the program the young Morse was on his todd a lot - it was very good, he played it well - very moody! :rolleyes: he probably won't be with Lewis as cops don't work with the same people for 40 years! :)

mobertol 28-04-2012 15:30

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 987967)
Who plays Lewis:confused::D

No Lewis - think he'd probably have been too young to have been in the police then as he is a bit younger than Morse!

Max the pathologist was one of the characters shown though...:)

wadey 28-04-2012 21:38

Re: Vera
 
Scott and Bailey (TV Series) Police Station Location "Barclays Bank" 26 Silver Street, Bury, Lancashire BL9 0DJ | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

ToffeeGuy 29-04-2012 22:28

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Yeah, they've managed to find the one street in Bury which hasn't been ruined by 60s planners or that Rock thing they have now. But I thought it was meant to be set in Oldham?

Plus, Morse will never meet Lewis in the new prequel. He met him for the first time in the first episode of the original Morse in 1987. But I hope his boss Chief Superintendent Strange turns up at some point.

wadey 30-04-2012 12:08

Re: Vera
 
I think James Grout is the best actor in it but I'm afraid he's getting on a bit (84) he was in Juliet Bravo

ToffeeGuy 30-04-2012 22:57

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wadey (Post 988255)
I think James Grout is the best actor in it but I'm afraid he's getting on a bit (84) he was in Juliet Bravo

Yes he played misogynist Div. Supt. Albert Hallam. All 6 series box sets available in Lancashire libraries.

cashman 01-05-2012 10:36

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 987442)
I have a friend who does extra work on Corrie for £100 a day! If she appears it's for a few seconds with nothing to say...

Then i reckon the agency may be ripping her off Di.;)

kestrelx 01-05-2012 10:51

Re: Vera
 
Anyone miss the "Bill!"

The Bill - The Silent Gun (1988) - YouTube

DaveinGermany 01-05-2012 11:05

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 988489)
Anyone miss the "Bill!"

I wouldn't worry, they'll send you a reminder. ;)

mobertol 01-05-2012 15:48

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Anyone else remember Dixon of Dock Green? Always used to end with "Evenin' all!" -they don't make 'em like that any more;):D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQCa...eature=related

jaysay 01-05-2012 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 988485)
Then i reckon the agency may be ripping her off Di.;)

My thoughts too cashy:rolleyes:

jaysay 01-05-2012 17:52

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 988541)
Anyone else remember Dixon of Dock Green? Always used to end with "Evenin' all!" -they don't make 'em like that any more;):D

Jack Warner - YouTube

Maybe the answer is because Jack Warners dead mobertol:D

susie123 01-05-2012 17:54

Re: Vera
 
New series of Lewis starts soon - I like that, a worthy successor to Morse.

MargaretR 01-05-2012 18:01

Re: Vera
 
I prefer Lewis - don't have to endure the opera singers that sometimes appeared in Morse.

jaysay 01-05-2012 18:06

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 988572)
I prefer Lewis - don't have to endure the opera singers that sometimes appeared in Morse.

Tend to agree there Margaret, plus Lewis isn't quite as slow as Morse;)

kestrelx 01-05-2012 20:36

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 988541)
Anyone else remember Dixon of Dock Green? Always used to end with "Evenin' all!" -they don't make 'em like that any more;):D

I remember watching it but I don't remember any content, I mean plots! Also there was "Z cars!" :rolleyes: They do - if you tried watching it now you'd find it terribly slow I'd think!

kestrelx 01-05-2012 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 988574)
Tend to agree there Margaret, plus Lewis isn't quite as slow as Morse;)

Morse and Lewis get down with the kids lol :) at a Rave!.......................... Beats Opera. :do-one:

I.M.Cherubim.And.Seraphim. Part 10. - YouTube

ToffeeGuy 01-05-2012 21:52

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[quote=kestrelx;988661]Morse and Lewis get down with the kids lol :) at a Rave!.......................... Beats Opera. :do-one:

Yeah, this episode was directed by Danny 'Slumdog Millionaire' Boyle. Which shows the the quality people who worked on the show. He directed probably the best Morse episode of all as well 'Masonic Mysteries'.

Lewis is a fitting sequel. But it's a bit like Christmas without the turkey. It's OK but something's missing. Plus I'm a bit uneasy with the change in Lewis's character to make him more morose. I know this is down to his wife passing away etc but in the original series he was more of a 'happy go lucky' counterpoint to the more serious, pretentious Morse.

jaysay 02-05-2012 08:47

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[quote=ToffeeGuy;988702]
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 988661)
Morse and Lewis get down with the kids lol :) at a Rave!.......................... Beats Opera. :do-one:

Yeah, this episode was directed by Danny 'Slumdog Millionaire' Boyle. Which shows the the quality people who worked on the show. He directed probably the best Morse episode of all as well 'Masonic Mysteries'.

Lewis is a fitting sequel. But it's a bit like Christmas without the turkey. It's OK but something's missing. Plus I'm a bit uneasy with the change in Lewis's character to make him more morose. I know this is down to his wife passing away etc but in the original series he was more of a 'happy go lucky' counterpoint to the more serious, pretentious Morse.

To be honest ToffeeGuy I think Laurence Fox helps make Lewis watchable, think he's a better foil for Lewis than Lewis was for Morse

mobertol 02-05-2012 14:19

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[quote=ToffeeGuy;988702]
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 988661)
Morse and Lewis get down with the kids lol :) at a Rave!.......................... Beats Opera. :do-one:

Yeah, this episode was directed by Danny 'Slumdog Millionaire' Boyle. Which shows the the quality people who worked on the show. He directed probably the best Morse episode of all as well 'Masonic Mysteries'.

Lewis is a fitting sequel. But it's a bit like Christmas without the turkey. It's OK but something's missing. Plus I'm a bit uneasy with the change in Lewis's character to make him more morose. I know this is down to his wife passing away etc but in the original series he was more of a 'happy go lucky' counterpoint to the more serious, pretentious Morse.

Never realised he directed that episode -it's a good one but then i love 'em all.

As to Lewis -i also think he's a bit too morose now, perhaps they could find him a love interest in the new series and then he might perk up a bit.

Like Jay I do like Lawrence Fox in Lewis - great actor playing an interesting character.:)

MargaretR 13-05-2012 19:09

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I have just switched on to ITV to watch Vera and found an old Lewis episode being screened instead.:confused:

lancsdave 13-05-2012 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 991462)
I have just switched on to ITV to watch Vera and found an old Lewis episode being screened instead.:confused:

Something to do with the episode being about the army and they didn't feel it was appropriate because of the soldiers deaths in Afghanistan today

MargaretR 13-05-2012 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 991466)
Something to do with the episode being about the army and they didn't feel it was appropriate because of the soldiers deaths in Afghanistan today

Thanks for the explanation.

So it is likely to be postponed indefinately because soldiers are dying daily and have been for hundreds of years.

Maybe the episode has revealed or depicts army malpractice which they don't want to publicise - we have all heard about 'Deepcut'.

kestrelx 13-05-2012 21:12

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 991473)
Thanks for the explanation.

So it is likely to be postponed indefinately because soldiers are dying daily and have been for hundreds of years.

Maybe the episode has revealed or depicts army malpractice which they don't want to publicise - we have all heard about 'Deepcut'.

Now you come to mention it - they replaced it with an episiode of Lewis which showed a female Priest ( or what every you call them) choking to death on poison. Seems ironic to replace it with anything with murder in it. :rolleyes: Perhaps they should have replaced it with "Gandi."

The day Princess Diana died there was some film on that night on BBC 1, I don't even recall what it was, but they replaced it with "Ring of Bright Water." about an otter in Scotland. Strange choice.

DaveinGermany 14-05-2012 08:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 991473)
Maybe the episode has revealed or depicts army malpractice which they don't want to publicise - we have all heard about 'Deepcut'.

Really & from where exactly did you hear about Deepcut ? From the rags & media you virulently deride for being pawns of an oppressive government, those tools of the state you constantly warn everyone off about who feed us lies & propaganda.

MargaretR 14-05-2012 09:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 991580)
Really & from where exactly did you hear about Deepcut ? From the rags & media you virulently deride for being pawns of an oppressive government, those tools of the state you constantly warn everyone off about who feed us lies & propaganda.

Try reading this government document

http://www.official-documents.gov.uk.../0795/0795.pdf

MargaretR 14-05-2012 09:41

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PS the postponed episode dealt with death at an army barracks -

"The detective investigates a suspicious death in an army barracks, aided by Joe and an enthusiastic member of the military police. Although the demise of commanding officer Dev initially looks like suicide, a case for murder is quickly established and the team's first task is to find a motive. Sensing a connection to Ollie, a soldier killed in Afghanistan, Vera interviews the victim's loyal comrades and Ollie's grieving family, discovering a traumatic event that nobody wants to talk about"

jaysay 14-05-2012 09:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 991589)
PS the postponed episode dealt with death at an army barracks -

"The detective investigates a suspicious death in an army barracks, aided by Joe and an enthusiastic member of the military police. Although the demise of commanding officer Dev initially looks like suicide, a case for murder is quickly established and the team's first task is to find a motive. Sensing a connection to Ollie, a soldier killed in Afghanistan, Vera interviews the victim's loyal comrades and Ollie's grieving family, discovering a traumatic event that nobody wants to talk about"

Thanks a bunch Margaret, that's spoiled it for when they do actually show it later in the year:D

MargaretR 14-05-2012 09:56

Re: Vera
 
I always plan my viewing after reading the listings info
TV Guide UK TV Listings - UK's No 1 TV Listing site for Freeview, Sky, Virgin Media, Freesat & BT Vision

DaveinGermany 14-05-2012 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 991587)
Try reading this government document

http://www.official-documents.gov.uk.../0795/0795.pdf

No I don't think I will, I have no desire to plough through the whole thing merely to appease you, I questioned your statement & the validity of your comment, you come back with a government document ?

An actual document sanctioned by the state organ which you so often claim is being manipulated, so why then should this particular document be any more truthful/untruthful than those you've previously disparaged ?

Or is it a case of if it suits your requirements you'll accept what's written & should it not, well then it's obviously manipulation of the masses by the powers that be. Cherry picking Marge R ?

As to your last entry, If that is the case

I always plan my viewing after reading the listings info


If that is the case, why then did you come out with your first inflammatory comment or is this attitude a throwback from your civil service days ?

MargaretR 14-05-2012 12:19

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 991615)
No I don't think I will, I have no desire to plough through the whole thing merely to appease you, I questioned your statement & the validity of your comment, you come back with a government document ?

An actual document sanctioned by the state organ which you so often claim is being manipulated, so why then should this particular document be any more truthful/untruthful than those you've previously disparaged ?

Or is it a case of if it suits your requirements you'll accept what's written & should it not, well then it's obviously manipulation of the masses by the powers that be. Cherry picking Marge R ?

As to your last entry, If that is the case

I always plan my viewing after reading the listings info


If that is the case, why then did you come out with your first inflammatory comment or is this attitude a throwback from your civil service days ?

Your question was -
"Really & from where exactly did you hear about Deepcut ?"

If you don't like the answer there isn't a lot I can do about it.

DaveinGermany 14-05-2012 12:54

Re: Vera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 991622)
Your question was -
"Really & from where exactly did you hear about Deepcut ?"

If you don't like the answer there isn't a lot I can do about it.

Not a matter of not liking you've given an answer as asked. I chose not to read the report, that's all there is to it. What I do find intriguing is that you're prepared to accept this document from a ruling government & their sources, yet others you won't although it comes from a similar/same originator.

Cherries are definitely early this year.


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