Skint. Channel 4
 

Anybody been watching Skint on Channel 4 ? What a bunch of scumbags. Talk about underclass, this lot in Scumthorpe really take the mick. Gonna have to send my bull terrier back, he's showing me up now.! Lol.:thankya:

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Just been hearing all about it from mrs24, sounds like meadoway to me.

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And you are UPPERclass are you westendlass?
Its goes on how people are brought up, these people are like that because of their parents, its people like you that judge people who really pi$$ me off, looking down your nose at everyone, DISGUSTING !!!
And as for calling it SCUMthorpe, this is happening all over the country, not just over there
Shame on you

But then again, you wouldn't know about that, ignorance is bliss and all that

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people would have been in work if it wasnt the tories past and present policies of creating unemployment to keep inflation down.

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Have to disagree cmon, no matter who`s in government, some people just don`t want to work.

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What a strange reply. I wasn't 'looking down my nose at anyone. Just commenting on some crap prime time tv. Just because people have no money doesn't mean they have to act like irresponsible nobheads. If that were the case I'd be screeching up and down the street on a motorbike with no helmet myself.

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I suggest you re read your post love

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there are millions of people who did work who wanted to work and got stuck in a rut. there are people who you wouldnt want in your workplace ;)

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Something's going to give in the future, can't see how people can go on living like this and bringing children up who have never seen their parents work.

I feel sad for some of them but others don't want to help themselves, how can a modern society like ours have such diverse wealth and poverty within every town and city in the country.

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There are plenty of people who want to work, but there are also too many who wouldn`t know a days work if it kicked them in the ass.

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yet their the ones that are still getting tehir benefits and not been labled scum

meanwhile cancer patients diagnosed as terminal are been forced to stack shelves at tesco

its a poor do when someone whos made a carreer out of been on jobseekers is able to look down their nose at a disabled or terminally ill person because government has put the even less fortunate as the economys number 1 enemy

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Watched the first 5 minutes then turned off, it was made to get a reaction, looks like it got the one they wanted.
Wouldn't have done if it just showed someone doing shopping once a fortnight at ASDA stocking up from the oops isle then hibernating until next pay day.

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Haven't seen it cos Game Of Thrones is on at the same time....sounds interesting though!

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Makes me mad the couple with 5 kids gets £1.600 a month on benefits me and my partner work and make less than that a month, work stupid shifts, pay a mortgage and council tax.

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It's all wrong. People like that treat having a child like getting a pay rise

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I am sure there is an element of truth in it but not a lot.
I agree the reporters/researchers/whatever they are have made the program to make the area look as worse as it possibly could.

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There is work if you want it. I'm retired 66 and I could get a job tomorrow. Might not be high pay but enough to live on & keep me off the streets. Some make more on benefits & it's not right.

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They did the same when they made the documentaries about Shadsworth and that place in Manchester Neil, they would do exactly the same if they where to do it in Accy, Ossy, Church, Huncoat and Clayton, narrow minded people like the OP refuse to see/believe what's on their doorstep

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No It's not right, nor is it right that having had a comfortable and productive life you criticize all that are now in the position of unemployment.

Cue the exasperated re-buffel about how you had a hard life.

Yes, you may have done, but these people you call are also suffering.

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Some years ago there was a young child knocked down and killed, when a car back over her, she was the youngest of 8 kids, the only thing the father was bothered about was that he would lose the child benefit.

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If that's true it's sick. Link Please.

However if it's not true how dare you post such a thing?

There are times you create a great deal of dismay in my heart!
:mad:

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Its perfectly true Less, doubt if I'll find a link though, this happened in the 70s whilst I was living in Haslingden, links are only alive for 76 days or so they were saying on the BBC click program last week, how true that is I don't know, but I certainly would put something like that on here if it wasn't 100% true

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Sheer and utter disgrace, that you should even consider posting something like that without proof.

Propaganda and hearsay has no place on site, send such things to the Mail they love it.

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I'm sure in its day it found its own way to the mail without much help Less

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Look, the thread is about a disgraceful fly on the wall documentary, it's bad enough such rubbish as that gets air time, we don't need extra crap, those folk are a disgrace, the documentary is a disgrace, claiming without proof that the first words out of a Fathers mouth are what you claim were said, well let's be honest, a disgrace, but to mention such a thing without proof is...

Well surely even you can see where I'm going with this, can't you?

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I think you mean 'rebuttal' (but it doesn't fit)? I haven't had a hard life. I retired from a good job with a pension BUT carried on working for just over minimum wage just to keep occupied and those jobs are still available. If anyone is 'suffering' through unemployment then I suggest they look a bit harder and maybe do something that isn't necessarily entirely to their liking. We can't all be pop stars or premiership footballers!

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I watched it with a certain level of dismay, disbelief & resignation. At the very least its sensationalist viewing, exhibiting the worst aspects of those unfortunate enough to be in this position, but there are other people in a similar situation, doing the best they can & quietly plodding along & not submitting to the worst excesses forced upon them.

In particular that foul mouthed little noblet abusing his mother, proper little buck, or so he thinks & it's encouraged by the cameras being there. The girl stealing & selling herself to support her habit & the young mothers who just shrug their shoulders & accept it all, how utterly depressing & sordid the Country has become. And for all the talk about foreigners being the root cause of UK's problems how many were present & performing in that little episode?

Complete disillusionment with the UK & its scions.

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So, you retired then took a low paid job, had you not taken that job could it not be possible they would have upped the wages enough to employ an unemployed person?

Nah you and your greed needed the pin money.

Of course we can all work for a small amount, not much use though if it leaves you struggling.

However, don't blame the person if the 'system' is wrong.


If a person can legally claim more by not working, it isn't the person that's wrong it's the system.

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I was working in a team that included younger people who had it as their
main job. I checked the company's website today & they are still recruiting for the same job (all over the country). It's not the system that's wrong it's people whose life choice is to rely on the system.

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Okay I'll hold my hand up Less, probable can't come up with the proof you require but it did happen, things like that are something you tend to remember.

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IF it's their life choice then I agree, however if they have no choice, then it's the system not people at fault.

I make the same mistake as you, always ready to blame anyone that doesn't live within my life's framework, even if their's is just as noble though different to mine.

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People make the mistake of thinking that having a job is just about the pay - it isn't. It's about applying yourself, social interaction, progression. The low paid job I had offered promotion prospects for those with the commitment to work hard, learn and take responsibility (not what I wanted but others profited ). If you have a job & show reliability and consistency it makes it that much easier to get other jobs. You can't go in at the top. Just get on the ladder & climb.

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It's also about social opinion, go to a wedding for example, meet strangers, they ask what do you do?

Tell them I'm unemployed, you're put in a box in their mind, being able to say I'm a splurge wrangler is an important part of how others react to a person.

Just as you personally react as if someone these day's chooses to be unemployed.

No they don't in most cases, when 3,500 folk put themselves forward for a job of shelf filler at a local Tesco, there aren't that many other jobs or you wouldn't get that many applicants.

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What are you on about? It's not about people's reactions at weddings FFS. There ARE jobs but many of the unemployed won't do them 'cos they don't pay enough. They don't have the foresight to see it might lead to better things.

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So social standing means nothing to you? Although you're proud to have worked?


That say's it all, they don't pay enough, what sort of explanation do you need?

Who do you mean by 'they', surely you must know someone unemployed? Is that person so different to you that they are part of a sub-culture?

You really are on a planet within you're own mind, please stop posting, I can't think of any more simplistic ways of putting it.
:(

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It's showing now & as you can see they're playing to the camera, their 5 minutes of fame & a lifetime of infamy. The attitudes on display (the youngsters) are most certainly not those of someone concerned about finding employment.

A depressing indictment of modern Britain.

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even if they wanted jobs there is not enough to go around.we need to be radical in this country by creating full employment.this is the only way to cure this.

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I'll stop posting when you do. You aren't being simplistic - just simple.

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Just tell them you`re a support worker.:D

Skint. Channel 4
 

Oh, I'm shocked and hurt!

How could I possibly match a mind with such a comeback as yours?

However, that isn't what shocks me, nor is it the item that hurts me.

What shocks and hurts me is how someone like you can't think along lines other than from selfishness, you started work when there was plenty of work, times have changed don't pronounce judgement without feeling some empathy for the way those seeking work struggle because work isn't there.

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Maybe if the government grew some bollox and actually stopped people coming in from other countries there WOULD be enough jobs for everyone

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Pray tell us when was the last time there was full employment in this country, there are always those who won't work no matter how many jobs are on offer, they're quite happy to sit there and be kept by the state, you know it, I know it, but you won't admit it:mad:

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That can't happen while we're part of the EU Shaz, that's one of the reasons so many want out

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And then some of them rub our noses in it by openly flaunting it.

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very true its as though this show is designed to make teh public think that all people on benefits are living the dream and have way more money than working folk do

with things getting worse and not better i wonder if any of these self righteous lot looking down tehir noses at ANYONE on benefits will care to let us know how they are getting on if they loose their job.

say about 3 or 4 months down the line when their savings have gone and the gas bill needs paying because teh prices have gone up or they need some new clothes but have nothing left after food and bedroom tax decuctions etc.

it wont matter if you have worked all your life and paid national insurance and tax.The second you sign on or sign off sick your scum

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Claimed my fair share of benefits through both being made redundant & being off sick Accyman, not got a problem with people needing to claim benefits. It`s the ones who are on them and have no intention of looking for a job. Take one of my in laws as an example - Left school at 16, got a job with his brother but lasted just a few weeks until he was told how to beat the system, go to docs complaining of migraines they`ll ask you this that & other and give him these answers. He`s now in his mid 30`s and never worked a day since, down pub every day without fail. Only time he gets a migraine is when disability want to assess him.
It`s people like him that most people have the problem with.

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It is being reported that Channel 4 paid some of these layabouts to make these outrageous statements.Its been done before to boost the ratings of their rubbish programmes.

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Shameless is real life as well, it must be 'cus it's on telly

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I don't believe that, more like the quote or bit on TV was carefully edited to make it look like that

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It happened on Bright Street, TV didn't feature local news in those days, there's no need to edit the truth

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absolutely agree but unfortunatley this goverment is setting about turning the public against anyone on benefits regardless of legitimacey.How teh hell can it be right to decalre terminally ill cancer patients fit for work and stopping their benefits:mad:

also if you are on incapacity benefit you are excluded from many programs taht help people back to work, retrain etc infact you dont even get free college where as jobseekers andincome support claimants do

only today i saw and advert saying courses were free for JSA or ESA claimants at college

this ESA is new but before that you couldnt get anything on incapacity which a lot of people are still on and still cant

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It`s not right, they should seek further advice. I don`t know a lot about the different benefits and retraining, but I do know there is a lot of help for people with cancer.

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as someone whos had it i can assure you cancer patients get no special treatment and zero help retraining no matter how much you beg

i did get told i wouldnt have to pay for a college course but was presented with a large bill after a month so i had to leave the course.When i say large bill it was a large bill for somone on benefits.When i kicked up a fuss i was told that the advisor had been mistaken about which benefits got free courses.

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Sorry Accyman, I didn`t mean cancer patients would get help with retraining, i meant I don`t know about what different benefits got what with regards to retraining.

But the person you referred to who was taken off benefits and had to work should seek advice about that. There`s no way they should have to work.

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i want getting uppity its hard to tell with typing/text at time lol

it was very frustrating been told you will never do your old job again then been refused help retraining

now they have this esa thing it may be different but from what i can tell a lot of folk get flobbed off or made mugs of by compnaies with no intention of giving long term employment.I think once an employer stops getting paid from government to give you a job they get the next corpse in.

A bit like the YTS really there were few given jobs after 2 years teh majority were sacked and a new YTS recruit sent along.That was a tory thing as well .It never works out too well for teh workforce when they are in charge it seems

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I regard myself to be very lucky when it comes to being employed, managed to avoid the YTS, got a apprenticeship but had a couple of redundancies, but with the exception of a few months in early `91, been employed all my life, had to retrain a couple of times too, but that was all done within the job. But I find mostly for me, it`s not what you know, it`s who you know, there are a lot of vacancies that don`t even get advertised, just filled by word of mouth.