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Tin Monkey

13-07-2008 12:12

Buying and Selling Forum question

Can someone clarify the rules on the Buying and Selling Forum please? Most other forums I participate in require any transactions to be conducted on the forum, until a deal has been made. This keeps things out in the open and any potential buyers can see what offers have been made on the items for sale and then decide if they want to make a better offer.

The majority of deals on this forum seem to be conducted off the forum, which is surely not to the advantage of the sellers or any potential buyers?

It hasn't affected me yet, but I do think that there should be some rules governing this, if there aren't any already.

lancsdave

13-07-2008 12:21

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I'd prefer to see a rule where you have to state the price not use it as an auction site.

emamum

13-07-2008 12:25

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Yeah, i agree with that.........

Tin Monkey

13-07-2008 12:27

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 606003)

I'd prefer to see a rule where you have to state the price not use it as an auction site.

Add that to my list too. There's a lot of traffic moving through that forum now and some simple rules should be applied (if there aren't any already)

BERNADETTE

13-07-2008 12:28

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There is a rule that says they have to state a price, think it is rule fifteen in forum rules

lancsdave

13-07-2008 12:29

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 606007)

There is a rule that says they have to state a price, think it is rule fifteen in forum rules

I was going to say I thought I'd seen a rule but then couldn't find it, thank you :D

BERNADETTE

13-07-2008 12:44

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 606008)

I was going to say I thought I'd seen a rule but then couldn't find it, thank you :D

Think it was quoted in a thread the other day when somebody was selling/auctioning a PC:)

Neil	13-07-2008 14:09

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Maybe a "READ ME BEFORE POSTING" sticky could be added to the forum stating the rules that apply to selling.

cashman

13-07-2008 14:29

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 606030)

Maybe a "READ ME BEFORE POSTING" sticky could be added to the forum stating the rules that apply to selling.

think thats a good idea,neil, owt else then should be removed i reckon.;)

Tin Monkey

13-07-2008 15:25

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I'm glad to see that most people are of the same opinion as myself. I notice that there's a thread on there now that has an item for sale with no price and that a potential buyer has contacted the seller by PM, with no discussion/negotiation taking place on the forum. I think that this should be against the forum rules on both accounts.

I hope the Admin take these suggestions on-board, as I don't think it'd be that hard to police once people get used to it and a couple of 'naughty' threads have been deleted.

cashman

13-07-2008 15:31

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 606061)

just goes to show T.M. see post 2, i can even agree with a dingle.:D;)

Mick	13-07-2008 15:58

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Yes i agree will see what we can sort out.

lancsdave

13-07-2008 16:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 606062)

just goes to show T.M. see post 2, i can even agree with a dingle.:D;)

I knew you weren't a lost cause Mr C :p

onlyme

13-07-2008 16:56

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 606017)

Think it was quoted in a thread the other day when somebody was selling/auctioning a PC:)

To be fair, I think the person concerned was trying to sell the pc, other members tried to start an auction with a low price, cant really say it was the sellers fault

lancsdave

13-07-2008 17:21

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 606083)

To be fair, I think the person concerned was trying to sell the pc, other members tried to start an auction with a low price, cant really say it was the sellers fault

Which is why people should put a price in the first place.

accyman

13-07-2008 19:20

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i was actualy thinking of buying the psp but when i saw that a pm had been sent i thought screw this i have no idea what its going to cost epsecialy as i would be taking part in basicly what could be described a sa blind bidding session

autions are for ebay if you ask me

at least if you put "ono" or nearest offer you have an idea at what price your looking at

BERNADETTE

13-07-2008 22:14

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 606083)

To be fair, I think the person concerned was trying to sell the pc, other members tried to start an auction with a low price, cant really say it was the sellers fault

Am sure he asked for offers but never mind, why not just say the price you want??

emamum

13-07-2008 23:08

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ermmm...... i think it was me and neil (?) that were taking the mick with the bidding on that thread lol

BERNADETTE

13-07-2008 23:19

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Still beggars the question why not just state a price or nearset offer???

onlyme

14-07-2008 00:32

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You can put 200 quid, a potential buyer may only have 180 and think thats not enough, where the buyer may consider the offer

Same as bartering at shops, markets etc

I can see the point but a couple of threads in the buy/sell section have got a little 'silly' (but amusing!). Pie warmer springs to mind. All I'm saying is sometimes its not the sellers fault.

Also, I believe the seller on the PC thread was quite a newbie. I know the argument of newbies maybes shouldnt be able to sell stuff, but on the other hand, may put new members of when a simple thread goes a bit haywire

onlyme

14-07-2008 00:32

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And this is nt a dig at you em! x

emamum

14-07-2008 00:58

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me em?? or other em?

Neil	14-07-2008 01:57

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 606279)

me em?? or other em?

2 of you is a scary thought :p

WillowTheWhisp

14-07-2008 06:59

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 606129)

In the past we have had threads which have got out of hand in a sort of bidding war. I was selling some CDs once, stated a price and accepted a buyer but then another member came on and posted a higher offer, the original would-be purchaser topped that offer and then moderators complained that this was not an auction site. It turned out that the second 'bidder' was messing around anyway and didn't even want the CDs and in the end the whole thread degenerated into a farce.

It was categorically stated then that the sales should be on a first come first served basis. So if somebody offers an item for say £10 and somebody offers to pay the £10 then that is sold, done and dusted and no room for 'higher bids'. If however, someone says "ONO" and gets an offer of £8 there is room for someone else to offer £9.

As for the PMs. Well I recently responded to an item for sale by posting that I was sending a PM. The PMs contain personal information such as phone numbers and addresses which people do not wish to disclose on the open forum. I hope you can understand that.

Tin Monkey

14-07-2008 16:10

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 606291)

As for the PMs. Well I recently responded to an item for sale by posting that I was sending a PM. The PMs contain personal information such as phone numbers and addresses which people do not wish to disclose on the open forum. I hope you can understand that.

Once a deal has been done on the forum then a PM concerning addresses or whatever is quite acceptable. A deals should be done on the forum.

WillowTheWhisp

14-07-2008 16:19

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I suppose it's up to the administration but if you answer a classified ad in the newspaper you don't do it through the paper do you? You phone the seller direct. As long as the seller lets people know in the thread that the item is sold I see no problem with it being done via PM. It's never bothered me.

david1

14-07-2008 18:50

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I see that it has now been updated to include the price when selling something !!!

Tin Monkey

15-07-2008 06:01

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Looks as though the Mods/Admin have been listening to our suggestions, as there's a new 'rules' sticky on that forum.

I still believe that all sales should be conducted on the forum until a sale is made (works very well on other forums I use), but it's good to know that we're being listened to. Thanks Mick and co. :)

Mick	15-07-2008 06:03

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We cant stop members pm'ing the seller over the item for sale so no point in trying sorry

Tin Monkey

15-07-2008 07:57

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 606902)

We cant stop members pm'ing the seller over the item for sale so no point in trying sorry

That's ok Mick. At least this is a step in the right direction. :)

WillowTheWhisp

15-07-2008 08:09

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There are some excellent points in those rules Mick. :)

cashman

15-07-2008 11:54

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well done mick, pming the seller is necessary at times, if ya need more detail, or address to collect etc,:)

Tin Monkey

15-07-2008 12:11

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I think you missed my point entirely.

cashman

15-07-2008 12:15

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 607043)

I think you missed my point entirely.

who did? me or mick?:confused:

Tin Monkey

15-07-2008 12:24

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607048)

who did? me or mick?:confused:

Oops. I meant to add more to that post, but got distracted. :D

I had no problems with people PMing the seller concerning addresses or anything post-sale. It was just I believe that any negotiations should be conducted on the forum. All this "I've PMed you" stuff is pretty underhand, but as Mick says, it would be hard to stop people doing that if they wanted to.

Other forums have a policy whereby if a sale is seen to have been conducted 'off forum', then both the seller and buyer are banned from selling on the forum again.

Neil	15-07-2008 15:31

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 607059)

All this "I've PMed you" stuff is pretty underhand

And quite pointless. You dont read to read in a thread that you have had a PM, it pops up to tell you so.

WillowTheWhisp

15-07-2008 16:53

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I've usually taken 'I've PM'd you' as a message to the other readers that the PMer is having the item and has requested contact details etc via PM. I think I've probably just written that myself i the actual threads. Must remember in future to be more specific and say that I wish to purchase the item.

Tin Monkey

15-07-2008 21:34

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What I meant was (this is becoming a bit of a saga), if a person is selling something for £50 and a buyer wants to offer £40 for the item, then it should be done on the forum and not by PM. Then if someone wants to step in and offer £45, they can do so in full knowledge of what has already been offered. If the £40 offer is rejected, then it saves other people hassling the seller with similar offers.

By the same token, if someone offers the full asking price, then that should be the item sold. It would cut out any attempts to drive the price up or to undermine other people.

As I said before, it works really well on other forums I use and they have many more members than AccyWeb.

WillowTheWhisp

15-07-2008 22:12

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That may be teetering on the verge of being a bit of an auction though and that's what we're not supposed to be doing on here.

Tin Monkey

16-07-2008 11:37

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 607384)

That may be teetering on the verge of being a bit of an auction though and that's what we're not supposed to be doing on here.

Eh? How is that an auction? The seller states that they want £50 for an item. Someone offers £40 for it and the seller is free to accept or reject the offer. Other people can jump in and make better offers, but anyone who offers the asking price gets first priority. Nobody would be allowed to offer over the asking price and any buyer has to decide whether to risk offering less and losing the item to someone who offers the asking price.

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