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AnthonyS 14-08-2004 14:16

Karma?
 
How do I turn my karma off? I seem to have only 8 karma yet I haven't done anything bad:confused: so I want to turn it off.

lettie 14-08-2004 14:29

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I don't think you can turn your karma off, Roy would know or maybe one of the moderators.:)

Doug 14-08-2004 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyS
How do I turn my karma off? I seem to have only 8 karma yet I haven't done anything bad:confused: so I want to turn it off.

Don't worry about it Anthony, Last month I had 23 points, now I've 15. I might have deserved to loose some but the rest went because I had an opinion. So be it. The points demonstrate the response of other individuals to your post or general manner on the site, you will loose them for P***ing people off. Keep an eye on mine I’ll be down there with you before long……………



Private Message - “Burnley, come what’s keeping you”

Doug 14-08-2004 15:48

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See what I mean..............hehehehehehe

Roy 14-08-2004 16:18

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Doug, I would worry about it if I was you. Going negative automaticaly disables your posting/chatting/arcade access. By the way, you have to spread your karma around and so must issue karma to at least 10 other people before you can get the same person again. It's about time I posted the full karma system.. I'll look into it now.

Doug 14-08-2004 16:25

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Extremely good point there Roy. I’ll mend my way’s.

WINGY 14-08-2004 18:22

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ye right!!!

Bagpuss 14-08-2004 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Extremely good point there Roy. I’ll mend my way’s.

Doug if someone wants to get you they will, so what's the point of posting something that maybe not everbody will agree with. If you do you loose your karma points your off and there's no way back but at least you will have made your point, don't you agree Wingy ???

Doug 14-08-2004 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Doug if someone wants to get you they will, so what's the point of posting something that maybe not everbody will agree with. If you do you loose your karma points your off and there's no way back but at least you will have made your point, don't you agree Wingy ???

Of that I have no doubt my friend, has mush as I may regret it I can only be what I am, If a few choose to force me off there's nothing I can do. Apart from being a little opinionated what have I done so wrong?

WINGY 14-08-2004 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Doug if someone wants to get you they will

Hows that then??
I agree about making your point, but Karma cannot just be issued willie nillie, as such. There are limits of how much you can give, so if it goes down fast then i would assume that that person is upsetting many people..

Bagpuss 14-08-2004 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WINGY
Hows that then??
I agree about making your point, but Karma cannot just be issued willie nillie, as such. There are limits of how much you can give, so if it goes down fast then i would assume that that person is upsetting many people..

Ok so it might take a while to do but it can be done and then the person with minus karma has gone, that can't be right in my book.
I also think that if everyone agreed and we where all friends it would make for some very boring threads.

WINGY 14-08-2004 20:46

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I totaly agree that debates etc keep a message board alive, this is why the Karma system relies on people being mature and dishing out both good and bad karma.
We used to have a system in place before karma and it was abused. A shame really.

My only suggestion to anybody with low karma, think of things that might keep people happy or cheer people up and the karma will come back.
For example Tealeaf (sorry T ) he has many debates and often upsets people but look at his )was high last time i looked anyway).
Come to think of it mine isnt too good!! EEK i'm off to tell some jokes:D

WillowTheWhisp 14-08-2004 20:48

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Am I reading this right? Someone with negative Karma can only read the board and not contribute to it? That would give them precious little opportunity of regaining their Karma again. It does seem a bit unfair. It only needs a few people to disagree with a point and that member is virtually gagged.

WINGY 14-08-2004 20:52

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Before jumping to any conclusions wait for Roy to publish the rules! As he said earlier today that he would.

That is unless anyone already knows them?

WillowTheWhisp 14-08-2004 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy
Going negative automaticaly disables your posting/chatting/arcade access.

I was just going off what Roy said in that part of his post.

lettie 15-08-2004 10:02

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All I know regarding karma is that the higher the number of posts you have, and the higher your own karma, the more you can give/take in one sitting. I have just given some karma and the lucky beggar got 8 points in one do.:D

WillowTheWhisp 15-08-2004 10:36

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:confused: Can you give more than once a day Lettie? I can't. If I try to I get a message telling me I've given out too much in the past 24 hours and to try again later.

lettie 15-08-2004 10:41

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Oooh, I don't know Willow, never tried it. I tend to give karma for something I strongly agree with, something that makes me laugh or something that helps or answers a question for me. I have only taken karma from somebody once and that was on the old Accyweb. I believe that everybody is entitled to an opinion and wouldn't rob somebody of karma just because their opinion differs from my own.

mez 15-08-2004 10:48

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willow ive just tried to give someone some karma but id already done so once to-day & its done the same to me // aa well/

Ceejache 15-08-2004 11:17

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I lost karma just for inviting someone to PM me if they wished to further discuss an issue.....I personally dont bother with it and have never taken a posters karma points score to be any form of indication of their character. People taking (or even giving) karma points just because they agree (or disagree) with their opinion seems rather petty to be honest - and surely taking karma from someone is bad karma in itself!

Busman747 15-08-2004 22:34

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Oh boy, am I in trouble then, It has been a pleasure to speak to you all, I tend to speak as I think, so byeee all (in anticipation of my karma dissapearing!)

WillowTheWhisp 15-08-2004 22:43

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You've got 15 what are you worried about?

Alan Gilmartin 16-08-2004 23:42

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Whatever you do Doug , dont change, I love reading your replys.

Doug 16-08-2004 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin
Whatever you do Doug , dont change, I love reading your replys.

Cheers Alan, I'm not sure if thats good or bad. But, if it helps I've not manage to change in the last 30 years...I think I'm to old now to try. Maybe if I think first? lol. Thanks all the same, your a gentleman..

Darby 18-08-2004 04:52

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I really don't see the point in Karma. Whether you agree with somebody else's view point or not is your own business, and Karma seems to be a way of showing disagreement or agreement. I think it's better to state your opinion openly in any thread and just say what you feel or think about a particular issue. To me personally, it seems a backdoor method of trying to slap somebody on the back or across their face, without them knowing who has done it!

To all of you...just keep playing it the way you've always played it and be yourself. I can stand a great deal of open honest discussion and opinion.

Mik Dickinson 18-08-2004 09:12

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So basically if you reply to a posting and other persons takes offence then they could basically throw you out.What ever happened to freedom of speech?an honest opinion of anything is worth a lot more from my point of view.Why agree with something that you do not think is ok, or you cannot justify putting people down because you do not like them.Some of the points they make maybe valid

Less 18-08-2004 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik Dickinson
So basically if you reply to a posting and other persons takes offence then they could basically throw you out.What ever happened to freedom of speech?an honest opinion of anything is worth a lot more from my point of view.Why agree with something that you do not think is ok, or you cannot justify putting people down because you do not like them.Some of the points they make maybe valid

It would take alot of people before a person could lose too much karma, free speech is there to be used but with it comes the responsibility that if what you post annoys other people e.g. changing the original theme of the Karma topic started by Anthonys into a platform whereby some bleeding heart can moan on about how badly done to they are feeling because of other members reactions. I have had mixed reaction to many of my threads some people agreed some didn't & this was reflected in the way that people affected my karma points. Not every-one wants to post on every thread that they read but if on the whole they agree, then up goes your karma, If they disagree, then down goes your karma. I think before you can either add or subtract from a persons karma a second time you have to have shall we say, Voted for (rather than picked on) 10 other people & their threads. So can we now get back to the original postees topic & leave the free speech soap box alone!
:signthis:

Doug 18-08-2004 12:00

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I respect your point of view less, and by doing so I have no desire to criticise anything you say. But I think it’s unfortunate that terms like bleeding heart is use to describe what is just another persons point of view. If anyone as answered the question here and given at least to my mind the best direction is lettie. Maybe Karma wouldn’t be such an issue if we all followed her example.

Less 18-08-2004 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
I respect your point of view less, and by doing so I have no desire to criticise anything you say. But I think it’s unfortunate that terms like bleeding heart is use to describe what is just another persons point of view. If anyone as answered the question here and given at least to my mind the best direction is lettie. Maybe Karma wouldn’t be such an issue if we all followed her example.

Oh dear, here we go, let me pass you a tissue, I know I have just said something that you don't agree with & by your reply can see that you are yet again going to take it personal. Well I can't blame you, because yet again you personally have used the karma thread without adding anything to the topic of.... Karma. When I first read anthonys's thread I thought this guy will welcome some encouragement so I gave him some karma points, after all he is new to the site & rather than discourage I am all for encouraging all members.
However take a look @ the post immediately after his & you will see as no doubt the rest of us did, some-one introducing themselves with a negative attitude. I agree whole-heartedly with letties attitude towards karma. what I disagree with is the attitude of people that don't seem to be able to follow the plot either in some-ones thread or in real life. I have seen some of your answers to peoples posts & when you are not busy apologising for suffering from foot in mouth disease & then trying to put the blame onto every-one else, you have got a talent for some witty & dare I say reasonably intelligent view points unfortunately finding these paritcular posts of yours is made difficult by the dross that you put onto the site. Please, before you come back @ me all fired up, take a deep breathe, count to ten & consider, is what Less has said something that deserves a Reply?
I would now like to finish with a positive attitude & that is that I for one look forward to your continued posting on the site & hope that once you realise that I am neither for or against you that we can have many more serious & lite-hearted discussions.
:smoky:

Doug 18-08-2004 13:23

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Bloody Hell Less keep your tissues mate I’ve box’s full, Maybe your right, maybe it’s a matter of interpretation, individual or otherwise, but at the end of the day I don’t think any one of us is perfect,

I may have a problem I don’t know, I don’t set out to blame or put on anyone, nor force my point of view on others and for once I’m not apologising. If however, I do cause genuine offence to someone then I believe its right to apologise simple as that really.

I will irrespectively, but respectfully continue to post on the threads and I hope that the continent of what I post appeals to most people if not then what I say will just be another opinion. Is that not what it’s about?

WINGY 18-08-2004 18:27

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Karma was the title subject i think???????

Bagpuss 18-08-2004 20:45

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If I post something I will not apologise if someone does not agree with my view, but I hope I will never post a personal attack such as the one Less made on Doug earlier in this thread. This karma thing if you didn't know is making members not want to post in fear of losing enough so they lose their membership of this forum but I cannot ignore Less's post and fully expect to see my karma total go down.

Doug 18-08-2004 21:22

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Not if there's any merit in this site or its people Bagpuss. And not if I can help it, now I have had a good laugh with Sara and Shrum tonight and I'm well on the way.............Nissed.

Less has an opinion, he made his statement and I’m sure his feelings are genuine, that’s his prerogative and I’m not criticising him for that. But I do agree that it is counter productive for us to attack each other for our opinions, we can’t afford to stifle opinion or debate on this site, if people as you quite rightly say, are afraid too post because they fear counter criticism them there’s no point in being here.

Obviously some agree with the gentleman and others don’t, I call that democracy. However, Bagpuss, I applaud your stand and your support and it is appreciated. And I can tell that it’s appreciated by more people than just me. You’re a gentleman sir.

Anyone one wanting an apology can go p*** up a tree. lol

Mik Dickinson 18-08-2004 21:26

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i do find that when all said and done there are a lot of people who take offence where i would belive there is no offence meant

WINGY 18-08-2004 21:30

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so your happy enough to post a response when its a personal attack (as you word it) on doug but when its anybody else say Kipax for example its ok??
I'm not saying its right for anybody to make "personal attacks" but i think the point made by less was valid IMHO. I have read posts with "personal attacks" on other members when thay have not had a valid point and seen no defence for it.

As for the comment about your karma being effected, personally i dont think that anything that you have said could possibly warrant changing karma. After all we are all entitled to an oppinion. Although in the last few days since the start of this thread the ammount of changing karma is unbelievable. Doug for example is now on 29. 2 days ago he was fearing he would have nothing. And with no disrespect to Doug if people were giving karma for good reason why has Dougs doubled in 2 days.

This was all seen on the old accyweb and the old sytem and that was abused the same as this one is, and at the end of the day this was programmed by Roy in his own time as a "feature " of Accyweb, so if it carries on being abused than surely Roy is waisting his own time???? IMHO

Mik Dickinson 18-08-2004 21:47

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Going back to the old accy web i remember me being personally attacked by certain long standing members of this web site.Did i flinch no i still passed on my views and ignored the personal remarks made about me.In the end all it boiled down was that with me being new some people hqad the feeling they were being pushed out.Does not bother me in the slightest i like to take people as they come

WINGY 18-08-2004 21:51

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Well said mik.. and if memory serves correct your title was "forum bad boy" (along with T

Doug 18-08-2004 22:10

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No offence is taken wingy, but if people wish to express their opinion thought the use of Karma then I would suggest in my humble opinion that the system works. Obviously some will support one or other side in this matter, some couldn’t give a **** and other will remain impartial. I for one don’t mind the personal attacks in this instance because it is just an opinion that another individual.

You are right about massive increases in Karma; some are going through the roof. Maybe it’s just because people respect an opinion or may be its individual support, if it’s the latter then I would worry because that will split the site, not opinion and that can only be bad for all of us, that said there’s only a small number of folks involved in this and that should be easy for us to meet an accord that makes this site what it is. Democratic...

Just for the record less I give Karma to the lad for the same reason and at the time I said what as led to this interlude, I continue to give Karma ever time it let’s me to people who I feel merit it…it is a privilege and I respect that and award accordingly as I’m sure others do.

AnthonyS 18-08-2004 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyS
How do I turn my karma off? I seem to have only 8 karma yet I haven't done anything bad:confused: so I want to turn it off.

Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a full on debate amondgst you all. It seems I touched a very sore subject:( . I won't want to turn it off now because I somehow gained a lot of karma now, but did anybody actually answer my question? Can I turn it off or not :confused: :) ?

Bagpuss 18-08-2004 23:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyS
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a full on debate amondgst you all. It seems I touched a very sore subject:( . I won't want to turn it off now because I somehow gained a lot of karma now, but did anybody actually answer my question? Can I turn it off or not :confused: :) ?

At the moment AnthonyS you cannot turn your karma on or off.

Darby 19-08-2004 05:56

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Many of us have been subjected to vicious personal attacks becuse of our statements on the site or our points of view. Unfortunately this is the current state of affairs in our society, and we'll just have to live with it.
Those of us who are wise enough to continue making our opinion known or continue to make statements, that may (whitingly or unwitingly cause what could be construed as "offence") or may not wind up a couple of our fellow site members should follow their conscience. :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil:

As for Karma.........I should cocoa :bleedht: :bleedht:

Mik Dickinson 19-08-2004 07:51

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I mean when all said and done karma is ok but i like a good vindaloo as well.Oops i think i have misread this thread , that would be khorma am i correct

pendy 19-08-2004 13:51

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I think a lot of new people would welcome some direction on karma - I have no idea how to add or take away anything.

Whilst I agree that no-one should be allowed to post vicious messages or personal attacks, surely we are all entitled to our opinions. We should respect the opinions of others, whether we agree or not. Does anyone remember the quote -

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Not a bad stance to take, I think.

Mik Dickinson 19-08-2004 18:27

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No pendy i do not remember the quote and i can honestly say i ahve never heard of it but i do like it and will remember that one

ShortStuff 20-08-2004 22:58

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Karma is basically feedback on your threads. I personally like to be able to increase someone's karma if a feel they deserve it and I also like to receive it - it builds on the community spirit of the site. But, of course sometimes even in a close community people disagree, and if I felt it necessary I would also give someone bad karma (although I wouldn't give bad karma just for someone having a different opinion). I do not think that Roy or any of the moderators would allow this system to be abused, and I think that if anyone was getting "picked on" it would soon come to their attention. Surely we are all capable of using this option sensibly and if you do not wish to get involved with Karma - that's perfectly OK!

WillowTheWhisp 20-08-2004 23:14

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But that brings us back to the original question doesn't it ShortStuff? If anyone doesn't wish to "get involved with Karma" it isn't "perfectly OK" because they have Karma points whether they like it or not. They can choose not to give or remove any from other members but cannot opt out of other members adding to or subtracting from their own.

I've heard that saying Pendy and I believe it is a good one to live by. We should all have the right to our own opinions and enough dignity to accept the opinions of others even when they differ from our own.

Doug 20-08-2004 23:14

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You always impress me with your replies Shortstuff. You seem to be able to make sensible judgments without been Judgmental. Ever thought of going in to Social Work.

Mik Dickinson 13-02-2005 21:59

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well my Karma has now gone up to 16 and i do believe it was down to 9 at one point.So whatever i did i finally did it right

chav1 13-02-2005 23:07

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on a few occasions i have seen karma removed for no apparent valid reason at all

i forget the individuals name but soemone posted a joke about political correctness been around in the 1800's i think it was and someone took karma of him even though all the replies to the joke were positive and the joke didnt have offensive content to any one what so ever

regardles somone removed his karma and didnt even have the guts to say why or who they were so i awarded him what i could

i can assure everyone here that although i have not yet deducted karma if i ever choose to do so i will put a reason

cant say fairer than that can i :D

i sometimes share the same opinion as someone and other times i think the total opposite and will speak my mind although i admit at times i can get a bit up my own bum i would never think less of anyone just for having a different opinion to me

Mik Dickinson 14-02-2005 08:47

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And on such an honest reply i will up your karma for you willingly as i have done

staggeringman 14-02-2005 16:16

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KARMA_all the people that post threads on this web site post because they have something to put across to other people,Now if some other people dont like what they see they deduct karma of the person that has posted the thread.But what happens if someone is posting on this site is not a member of the accrington web and is using someones alias and is deducting karma off others?:(

slinky 14-02-2005 16:24

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To be quite honest, I can't see the point in the system cos I have posted quite a few jokes on here (always up for a good laugh) and my points never go up or down so...............but hey does this look like a face of concern:s_frighte

staggeringman 14-02-2005 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slinky
To be quite honest, I can't see the point in the system cos I have posted quite a few jokes on here (always up for a good laugh) and my points never go up or down so...............but hey does this look like a face of concern:s_frighte

something must be going up and down slinky cause you dont stay on all night and not come up with anything...he...hee
karma im on about!

slinky 14-02-2005 17:39

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CHEEKY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bow8: :angel:

staggeringman 14-02-2005 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slinky
CHEEKY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bow8: :angel:

.......lol....its good to laugh!!!

slinky 14-02-2005 17:47

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Lol You Are Right There:d

Tinkerbelle 24-02-2005 18:08

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Can anyone tell me why some karma points appear blue on your profile?

WillowTheWhisp 24-02-2005 21:11

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That's when they've been given by someone who hasn't got many posts so they don't actually affect your karma total but you know they would have done if they could.

WillowTheWhisp 24-02-2005 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chav1

i sometimes share the same opinion as someone and other times i think the total opposite and will speak my mind although i admit at times i can get a bit up my own bum i would never think less of anyone just for having a different opinion to me

Here here chav. :)

Margaret Pilkington 24-02-2005 21:34

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What are the RED karma points then??????

WillowTheWhisp 24-02-2005 21:36

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They are the deductions

vorlon24 24-02-2005 21:37

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I have no idea; I've only got green and blue

Margaret Pilkington 24-02-2005 21:39

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Oh, now I know where the missing points went...... but how come the person made a positive comment about the post?????? baffles me!

simon 24-02-2005 21:43

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They have clicked on the wrong one by accident by the look of it ..:(

Margaret Pilkington 24-02-2005 21:45

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How blooming sad is that eh?

WillowTheWhisp 24-02-2005 21:47

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What post was it?

Margaret Pilkington 24-02-2005 21:49

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It was the one busman posted about you getting old etc.

Margaret Pilkington 24-02-2005 21:50

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And the comment was 'wise words' LOL and signed

WillowTheWhisp 24-02-2005 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
It was the one busman posted about you getting old etc.

about ME getting old? or about people in general getting old?

Not sure I've seen that one.

Margaret Pilkington 24-02-2005 21:54

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You Know the one Willow...... the committing suicide thread......can't think of its name now.

Margaret Pilkington 24-02-2005 21:59

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It was 'An easy way to commit suicide'......just been and looked.

WillowTheWhisp 24-02-2005 22:00

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Oh that one. :)

Tinkerbelle 25-02-2005 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
That's when they've been given by someone who hasn't got many posts so they don't actually affect your karma total but you know they would have done if they could.

Thanks Willow that makes sense to me now!! I should of realised i've been coming on here long enough now :o to know that!!

kestrelx 12-03-2005 11:37

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I'm a good little Boy! No Karma for me!

:s_whistl: :s_whistl: :s_whistl:

mantrabooks 26-11-2006 14:23

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Glad to see the Karma thing has been dropped, I didn't think is was fair or necessary



:Banane13:


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Mick 26-11-2006 14:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mantrabooks (Post 341233)
Glad to see the Karma thing has been dropped, I didn't think is was fair or necessary



:Banane13:


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Er Mantrabooks its NOT been dropped its still there move your mouse over the scales on the top right of a post

mantrabooks 26-11-2006 14:35

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right - its just now a little more concealed

Mick 26-11-2006 14:36

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not really its just the new software that was used for the update

cmonstanley 26-11-2006 17:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 78287)
But that brings us back to the original question doesn't it ShortStuff? If anyone doesn't wish to "get involved with Karma" it isn't "perfectly OK" because they have Karma points whether they like it or not. They can choose not to give or remove any from other members but cannot opt out of other members adding to or subtracting from their own.

I've heard that saying Pendy and I believe it is a good one to live by. We should all have the right to our own opinions and enough dignity to accept the opinions of others even when they differ from our own.

:confused: that never happens if you upset a clique they all give you negative just look at mines if you have an opinion they get you:D :D :D :Banane29: i once got negative for havin too many smilies:D :D :D


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