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MargaretR 27-01-2013 21:26

Minimum Age limit for membership
 
I think that disruption by new members who are children illustrates that members below age 16 cannot be trusted to behave properly here.

I propose that the age for membership be raised to 16.

Less 27-01-2013 21:41

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Perhaps, it should be 67?

That seems to be a magic number that pees sambo off.

:)

steve2qec 27-01-2013 21:52

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How about an age cap?

accyman 28-01-2013 05:40

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members must be at least 3 weeks from death and have 5 prior re-incarnations

Neil 28-01-2013 07:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1039359)
I think that disruption by new members who are children illustrates that members below age 16 cannot be trusted to behave properly here.

I propose that the age for membership be raised to 16.

How do you suggest we verify the age of members?

In the UK there is no need for members to prove their age as we don't have any legal age limits in the way they do in the US. Even sites like facebook and twitter based in the US don't ask for age proof, just state that under 13 are not allowed. That is only because its easier than all the messing about needing parents to agree to them joining.

The usual problem we have with young members is the adults on the site, if you don't like them don't involve yourself in a conversation with them.

Less 28-01-2013 07:52

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1039401)
The usual problem we have with young members is the adults on the site, if you don't like them don't involve yourself in a conversation with them.

I liked most of what you said however I dispute the above, how is it the 'adults' fault when they are warning a child not to do something dangerous when he keeps insisting on doing it?

Surely it would be irresponsible to follow the above advice and leave the obviously immature to risk life and limb?
:mad:

lancsdave 28-01-2013 09:21

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Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 1039375)
How about an age cap?

Thats not a bad idea. Every year Accywebbers have to come in to the shop and buy a cap with their age on. Repeat business :D

jaysay 28-01-2013 09:55

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1039419)
That's not a bad idea. Every year Accywebbers have to come in to the shop and buy a cap with their age on. Repeat business :D

You'll have to make home deliveries Dave:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 28-01-2013 10:43

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Nope Dave...I don't want everyone in Accy to know I'm only 14(the rest is VAT) :D

MargaretR 28-01-2013 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1039401)
How do you suggest we verify the age of members?

In the UK there is no need for members to prove their age as we don't have any legal age limits in the way they do in the US. Even sites like facebook and twitter based in the US don't ask for age proof, just state that under 13 are not allowed. That is only because its easier than all the messing about needing parents to agree to them joining.

The usual problem we have with young members is the adults on the site, if you don't like them don't involve yourself in a conversation with them.

I thought that the forum already had a 14 age minimum rule, with parental consent for younger.

I recall that it was used, so I expected there was some sort of age verification system in place.

It seems that there is no such control, nor is it possible.
If I had known that, I would not have made this thread.

susie123 28-01-2013 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1039401)
How do you suggest we verify the age of members?

In the UK there is no need for members to prove their age as we don't have any legal age limits in the way they do in the US. Even sites like facebook and twitter based in the US don't ask for age proof, just state that under 13 are not allowed. That is only because its easier than all the messing about needing parents to agree to them joining.

The usual problem we have with young members is the adults on the site, if you don't like them don't involve yourself in a conversation with them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1039404)
I liked most of what you said however I dispute the above, how is it the 'adults' fault when they are warning a child not to do something dangerous when he keeps insisting on doing it?

Surely it would be irresponsible to follow the above advice and leave the obviously immature to risk life and limb?
:mad:

I was not around in the Era of Bee so I can't comment on that situation. However it seems to me that some sixteen year olds can be as mature as a 67 year old ... while a 67 year old - you get my drift I hope. I'm 66 by the way!

I think in the current case involving possible goings on at Churchills/the Con club, as Less says, some of us are genuinely concerned that this individual will harm himself and/or others. As he reveals more about himself and his activities this may become more likely, unless he really is pulling the wool over all of our eyes and really winding everyone up big time.

I think as Steve says above, the benefit of the doubt is in order in this case. Sometimes the poster appears mature and then gives himself away so I think he may be both testing us and also genuinely interested in the old buildings he professes to care for - but is not mature enough to go about this in the right way. He needs help to head in the right direction.

Neil 28-01-2013 11:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1039441)
I thought that the forum already had a 14 age minimum rule, with parental consent for younger.

I recall that it was used, so I expected there was some sort of age verification system in place.

It seems that there is no such control, nor is it possible.
If I had known that, I would not have made this thread.

There is no age limit in the rules. It says if you are under 13 you need permission from a parent, that limit was set to comply with US law but there is no such law in the UK. The rule still stands though.

When you registered were you asked to prove your age?

As with all the rules if we find out someone has broken them appropriate action is taken.

Eric 28-01-2013 14:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1039420)
You'll have to make home deliveries Dave:rolleyes:

You got a point there, bud.;)

Sunflower49 28-01-2013 14:46

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I've never been asked to prove my age when joining a forum.
I think even on most 'Adult' sites, you just have to read (or pretend to read!) a disclaimer which states that you must be of legal age for your country to be viewing the content.

I don't think I've been involved in any discussions where a user's age was an issue on this forum, so I can't give opinion on that one :)

maxthecollie 28-01-2013 16:09

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1039439)
Nope Dave...I don't want everyone in Accy to know I'm only 14(the rest is VAT) :D

At what percentage?

jaysay 28-01-2013 17:48

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Originally Posted by susie 123 (Post 1039448)

I think as Steve says above, the benefit of the doubt is in order in this case. Sometimes the poster appears mature and then gives himself away so I think he may be both testing us and also genuinely interested in the old buildings he professes to care for - but is not mature enough to go about this in the right way. He needs help to head in the right direction.

Susie you can't help somebody who, never mind the age, is so pigheaded he won't listen to people who know more about that building that has been a lost cause since before he was born. He can work his finger to the bone trying to save this dangerous ruin, but he was on a hiding to nothing before he started, why does he think its in the state its in now, because numerous people have been involved and nobody has never had enough money to put it right, remember I used this building every day while it was still a Conservative Club, and I know the reason it was decided to sell it in the first place, the same reason its a relic of days gone by, the time to make any bid to save this place for posterity went 20 years ago and you can't turn the clock back on this building no matter how hard you try. You have to ask yourself who has around two or three million quid to spar to invest in its refurbishment and when you've finished just what are you going to do with it, its just a white elephant, and the best thing that can happen to it is that the council put a dangerous buildings notice on it and instruct the owner to make it safe or raze it to the ground

Gordon Booth 28-01-2013 18:01

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I can have enough laughs, discussions and arguments with adults on here without including a precocious, obsessive 13 or 14 year old who doesn't listen anyway.
Do as Neil suggests- leave him to it.

cashman 28-01-2013 18:22

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I fail to grasp what the problem is??:confused: If anyone bugs yeh, n yeh can't be arsed wi em, just ignore em, or is that beyond comprehension? age has sod all to do wi it.:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 28-01-2013 18:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1039546)
I fail to grasp what the problem is??:confused: If anyone bugs yeh, n yeh can't be arsed wi em, just ignore em, or is that beyond comprehension? age has sod all to do wi it.:rolleyes:

However I tried I couldn't ignore you, cashman.

cashman 28-01-2013 18:44

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1039549)
However I tried I couldn't ignore you, cashman.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Its a cracker.:D

jaysay 28-01-2013 18:47

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1039549)
However I tried I couldn't ignore you, cashman.

Its quite easy really Gordon when you log onto Accy Web just put a patch over you left eye so you don't see the nodding dog while your on line:D

Gordon Booth 28-01-2013 18:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1039553)
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Its a cracker.:D

I was going to put a smiley on, cashman, but didn't because you might have thought I was joking!:)

cashman 28-01-2013 19:03

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1039557)
I was going to put a smiley on, cashman, but didn't because you might have thought I was joking!:)

Makes little odds at all to me Gordon.:)

Gordon Booth 28-01-2013 19:07

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1039559)
Makes little odds at all to me Gordon.:)

Now you know it does, cashman. Underneath you're a teddy bear, just like Less and me.

Retlaw 28-01-2013 20:30

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1039540)
I can have enough laughs, discussions and arguments with adults on here without including a precocious, obsessive 13 or 14 year old who doesn't listen anyway.
Do as Neil suggests- leave him to it.

Gi oer moytherin, he's at that age where he knows it all, he'll suddenly realise he knows nowt, as he's falling from the roof of the Con Club, at least it will improve the gene pool.
I had a mate who was a steeple jack who reckoned it was better to fall from a great height, as it allowed a few more Hail Mary's before the thud.

entwisi 29-01-2013 07:05

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There have been a number of excellent and valued members of Accyweb who joined before 16. why shoudl they lose out because of one or two idiots? The Mods are there to ensure nothing that should not be or breaks site rules is removed. if they persist they get banned...

seems to cover all bases to me

Mick 29-01-2013 07:13

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This has always been and always will be a family site which includes children
There are things in place for children although as Neil has said they don't really apply in this country its called a COPPA form any child under a certain age must get his parents to fill this in and send it back to me or to Roy before they can register.
This form was used when the servers where in America but we still use them now.

DtheP47 29-01-2013 08:21

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1039359)
I think that disruption by new members who are children illustrates that members below age 16 cannot be trusted to behave properly here.

I propose that the age for membership be raised to 16.

Heaven forfend MargaretR “ Setting a lower age limit ?? To paraphrase Oliver Cromwell “ I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you be mistaken”
You will be advocating IQ tests for Moderators next !

Mick 29-01-2013 08:26

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1039622)
You will be advocating IQ tests for Moderators next !

And Members:p
although most would fail :hidewall:

jaysay 29-01-2013 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1039562)
Now you know it does, cashman. Underneath you're a teddy bear, just like Less and me.

Well no Gordon, remember I've met You, Cashy and Less, and teddy bears you are not:up2someth

Less 29-01-2013 08:48

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1039562)
Now you know it does, cashman. Underneath you're a teddy bear, just like Less and me.

Just call me Gladly, (Gladly my crosseyed bear).

DaveinGermany 29-01-2013 17:08

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1039624)
And Members:p
although most would fail :hidewall:

Not if we keep it to a moderate level, say 5 possibly 6. :D Over that & you're in ;)

Boeing Guy 01-02-2013 17:27

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1039706)
Not if we keep it to a moderate level, say 5 possibly 6. :D Over that & you're in ;)

OVER..... Damn....

DtheP47 12-02-2013 10:48

Re: Minimum Age limit for membership
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1039401)
How do you suggest we verify the age of members?

In the UK there is no need for members to prove their age as we don't have any legal age limits in the way they do in the US. Even sites like facebook and twitter based in the US don't ask for age proof, just state that under 13 are not allowed. That is only because its easier than all the messing about needing parents to agree to them joining.

The usual problem we have with young members is the adults on the site, if you don't like them don't involve yourself in a conversation with them.

I am becoming increasingly concerned with some of the AdChoices links that pop up on these pages. Can they not be blocked? There are enough problems on the www and social media for the young folks without the temptations to click on links like www.PlanetSapho.com.
You MOds have a social responsibility on here haven't you?

Less 12-02-2013 11:09

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1041764)
I am becoming increasingly concerned with some of the AdChoices links that pop up on these pages. Can they not be blocked? There are enough problems on the www and social media for the young folks without the temptations to click on links like
You MOds have a social responsibility on here haven't you?

If you don't like the ad's do you really think it sensible to put a live link to a site you object to?

Perhaps you are being as, or even more, irresponsible as you claim the site is?

:confused:

DtheP47 12-02-2013 11:15

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1041765)
If you don't like the ad's do you really think it sensible to put a live link to a site you object to?

Perhaps you are being as, or even more, irresponsible as you claim the site is?

:confused:

Apologies Mr L ..I was a tad hasty with my post and should have put a broken or false link on as an example. I will be more careful in future.

Less 12-02-2013 11:37

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1041766)
Apologies Mr L ..I was a tad hasty with my post and should have put a broken or false link on as an example. I will be more careful in future.

Perhaps, instead of publicly accusing the mods/site of being irresponsible a P.M. to them might be the way to go with such queries in future?

:)

DtheP47 12-02-2013 11:41

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1041767)
Perhaps, instead of publicly accusing the mods/site of being irresponsible a P.M. to them might be the way to go with such queries in future?

:)

Couldn't agree more Mr L. I stand corrected.Thanks

Mick 12-02-2013 13:29

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These Adverts are from google set up by the site owner of accyweb:)

jaysay 12-02-2013 17:15

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1041774)
These Adverts are from google set up by the site owner of accyweb:)

Maybe if more members put their hand in their pocket and make a small monthly donation towards the upkeep of the site, maybe Roy wouldn't need to have these links on site, all it takes is a click on the donation button top left hand corner to make Roy a happy camper:D

DtheP47 12-02-2013 18:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1041793)
Maybe if more members put their hand in their pocket and make a small monthly donation towards the upkeep of the site, maybe Roy wouldn't need to have these links on site, all it takes is a click on the donation button top left hand corner to make Roy a happy camper:D

Point taken Mr j AND I need to get to spexsavers :eek: yes of course I have seen the button but it never really registered... doh.
I will put some of WW's bequest to good use. The Forts Atms can whistle this week.

jaysay 12-02-2013 18:48

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1041807)
Point taken Mr j AND I need to get to spexsavers :eek: yes of course I have seen the button but it never really registered... doh.
I will put some of WW's bequest to good use. The Forts Atms can whistle this week.

Well the thing is Mr. D, these sites don't run themselves, and this is one of the best your every likely to come across of its type, by contributing it gives Roy the incentive to keep updating the site and making it better, that's why we are now on the road to 1 million posts:mosher:

DtheP47 12-02-2013 19:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1041811)
Well the thing is Mr. D, these sites don't run themselves, and this is one of the best your every likely to come across of its type, by contributing it gives Roy the incentive to keep updating the site and making it better, that's why we are now on the road to 1 million posts:mosher:

OK I've had my Tesco epiphany Mr J......:)
"Every little helps"

Restless 12-02-2013 22:10

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You don't like seeing them use Chrome or Firefox and install adblock+ plugin... byebye adverts. Then make a donation

DtheP47 12-02-2013 23:08

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1041848)
You don't like seeing them use Chrome or Firefox and install adblock+ plugin... byebye adverts. Then make a donation

The cheque was in the post earlier Mr R :) ...well the electronic equivalent that is :cool:

dotti34 16-02-2013 00:54

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Re minimum age limit - PLEASE don't ever set a maximum age........

Tesco Rambler 07-03-2013 23:35

Re: Minimum Age limit for membership
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1039359)
I think that disruption by new members who are children illustrates that members below age 16 cannot be trusted to behave properly here.

I propose that the age for membership be raised to 16.

I object on the grounds that I am properly behaved.


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