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jimmi5bellies 21-03-2006 09:13

What Does It Mean When Your Ceiling Moves ?
 
Just asking really before the council house inspector comes and fobs us off with a load off bull.
This is in no way :D a complaint against my neighbours upstairs :D :D :D (Hiya Debbie, lol).
The flats are only seperated by wooden floor boards and my ceiling has developed a big crack right across the middle. If Debbie has a few adults in then my ceiling starts to bow in the middle. Do you reckon it could be the joists ????

Oh and i couldnt ask for better, quieter neighbours who have to tip=toe and jump over floorboards in the morning so as not to wake me up or disturb me. To which i am truly gratefull.

Cheers
Chrissie

Less 21-03-2006 11:26

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It means your doing it wrong, it's the Earth thats supposed to move!

jimmi5bellies 21-03-2006 11:31

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lol @ les
:D

JohnW 21-03-2006 11:41

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It certainly could be the joists and it is as dangerous for the people upstairs as it is for you. The council need to check that out right away before someone gets hurt.

Neil 22-03-2006 06:38

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Originally Posted by jimmi5bellies
If Debbie has a few adults in then my ceiling starts to bow in the middle.

Is she holding Weight Watchers meetings up there?

Seriously, get it checked out ASAP

WillowTheWhisp 22-03-2006 06:57

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This is serious. That floor/ceiling could fall through injuring the people who are standing on it when it falls and anyone below who it falls on.

Dean 22-03-2006 07:42

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yea get it sorted i couldn't believe the title would be a bigger job if you don't sort it

jimmi5bellies 22-03-2006 10:51

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I reported it on Monday to the council and they couldnt give me a date as to when the inspector will come.

So, still waiting but its only day 3 and of course not forgetting the transfer to the private section is going through at the moment.

Neil 22-03-2006 11:25

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Phone them again and tell them part of it has collpased. I bet they get of their fat backsides then.

Debbie J 22-03-2006 12:20

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Just to back J5b's story...When my 8 year old or anyone else walks near the back of my lounge the bookcase rocks! Its worse when my daughters 17 stone boyfriend comes to visit. I have had to tell him not to go near the bookcase as last time he did, my clock fell off the top of it

pendy 22-03-2006 13:17

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Don't just wait for them to send someone round - phone the Observer and get a reporter to come and have a look. Tell the Council you're going to the national press about it - just the sort of thing they'd love. Also threaten to come and squat in the Town Hall on the grounds that your premises are dangerous.

You'll no doubt get something done pretty quickly.

jimmi5bellies 22-03-2006 13:50

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Its a good job i dont live upstairs come to think of it ! With all the visitors i get in 1 day we deffo would end up down stairs. :D :D :D

mani 22-03-2006 14:24

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how old's the building? is it a terraced house?

Sara 22-03-2006 20:23

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I bet if you asked the council to send you a compensation form, because someone has actually hurt themselves they will have someone round very soon.

jimmi5bellies 23-03-2006 08:07

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how old's the building? is it a terraced house?

Absolutely no idea Mani. I would say at a pinch post war council. Have even heard that these flats used to be large houses at one time.

SPUGGIE J 23-03-2006 08:44

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The council draging their feet could be classed as deriliction of duty. They are putting the safety of you and your sons at risk and unlike the trailer for the Inspector Clueseau movie on tv at the mo you might not be able to get up. Keep pushing and if they keep dragging try CAB then a solicitor then the papers. Ask your neighbour to stay out of the middle of the room and if you can get a vid of what is happening. This transfer mess shouldnt impede any serious work being done.

jimmi5bellies 23-03-2006 12:05

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Spuggie
Ive rung the council again this morning and expressed my concerns etc. They say they will possibly get an inspector around today. Can they tell by just looking at a ceiling if the joists have gone or should they really need to lift floor boards to have a proper look.

Cheers
Chrissie

SPUGGIE J 23-03-2006 13:45

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Floor boards up to be sure it not just natural springing in the wood. They need to get a proper look so upstairs as well as yourself will be effected if the joists have gone south.

Madhatter 23-03-2006 18:34

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Could be a bodge job if they're converted from a larger house, or woodworm.

harwood red 23-03-2006 20:39

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So come on then jimmi, did they come round today??? :confused:

Debbie J 24-03-2006 13:08

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Well as she, who must not let 18 stone daughters other half walk across the lounge floor for fear he will end up sat on J5B's knee, I'll answer that HR. Yes the ROOF inspector called today, when we told him the problem he had a look but said he wasn't the right person to do the inspection! He did however agree that my floor boards (J5B's ceiling) did need looking at. He told her it could well be the joists, but told me it was probably just loose boards that needed tightening. He also told J5B's nothing could be done until after the transfer as the council had completely cleared there computers and any emergency jobs were being dealt with by word of mouth and not via computers as is the norm. So we will just have to hope we upstairs don't DROP IN on Jimmi uninvited.

accymel 24-03-2006 14:21

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LOL Debbie, sounds quite worrying for both you & J5B:eek: , blimey thats one fob off you got from the council the amazing thing is about the word of mouth :confused: how does that happen blimey things are bad enough with their computers involved lol. Would a few accro props at least do till they can get someone to accertain the prob:confused:

Just hope you both be safe or least land safe while the HBC get their act together quickly although if anything was to happen it would certainly make the headlines & their insurance dept pap their pants:rolleyes: .

harwood red 24-03-2006 20:45

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After going through a stock transfer in Blackburn I can assure you that is one major fob off!

Ok lets break it down.
1, J5B rings in concerned that roof may collapse
2, staff member on repair line thinks needs urgent inspection
3, Inspector contacted direct to make urgent visit

Is that what they mean by word of mouth???? :confused:

accymel 24-03-2006 20:50

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Originally Posted by harwood red
After going through a stock transfer in Blackburn I can assure you that is one major fob off!

Ok lets break it down.
1, J5B rings in concerned that roof may collapse
2, staff member on repair line thinks needs urgent inspection
3, Inspector contacted direct to make urgent visit

Is that what they mean by word of mouth???? :confused:

LMAO!!! i thought it was a bit like chinese whispers eventually the word would get around - oopppsss thats what it is anyway sort of LOL:eek: or you have to accost a member of HBC staff in person to pass the repair detail on:confused: lol

staggeringman 25-03-2006 00:30

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i want to know who has the five bellies? if you could get rid of four problem solved:D only joking! does aidey live near you?

yogi bear 25-03-2006 11:43

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I HOPE IT DON'T FALL IN ON YOU..THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO ONE OF MY MATES CEILING..IT WAS SHOCKING FOR.AND KIDS WERE TOY FIGHTING UP STAIRS..

jimmi5bellies 26-03-2006 21:20

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Hiya, im back. Sorry have been to Clevelys this weekend for my sisters 40th.
Yes the council sent a roofer around ! Have been told there is nothing they can do untill the transfer takes place next week as they have wiped their computers. Quite frankly the roofer didnt really know about ceilings and the joists.
In answer to staggers and his 5 bellies querie, :D ...its a good job i dont live upstairs with my bellies and yes Aidey lives next door !
Also come to think of it, with my visitors its a good job i dont live upstairs :D :D :D

cannuck 02-04-2006 09:52

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means that your igloo is melting

jimmi5bellies 05-04-2006 08:58

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I RANG THE COUNCIL AGAIN THIS WEEK TO SEE WHEN THEY WOULD SEND THE APPROPIATE INSPECTOR AROUND ......

What fun i had trying to explain i now need a roofing inspector to inspect the roof as its raining in in Debbies upstairs, the chimney stack has a big crack in it, Debbie can hear things dropping behind her fire and her floor is getting worse ! they say somebody will be around this week ...... yea right ! and theres me thinking that when Contour took over on the 1st April things would improve.

entwisi 05-04-2006 09:36

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I'd be getting onto the observer if i was you.

Its clearly not safe to be living in that house.

SPUGGIE J 05-04-2006 11:10

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Originally Posted by entwisi
I'd be getting onto the observer if i was you.

Its clearly not safe to be living in that house.

Agreed. Also get yourself and the kids to a place that is safe and warm and play on it.

jimmi5bellies 26-04-2006 07:17

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******UPDATE******

After still not getting anywhere with HBC and now the new owners Hyndburn Homes / Contour i got intouch with Enviromental Health on Monday. They have issued a warning against the above and got a phone call late last night to say a building inspector is "supposedly" coming around on Monday.
I also got hold of a local councillor and told him about the problems, he is coming around today to have a look as well.

Will keep you updated.


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