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beechy 17-08-2007 19:11

buddy or elvis ??
 
as much as i liked elvis (not much)
it would have to be buddy holly for me
he at least wrote some of his own songs

Gayle 17-08-2007 19:23

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I'm a bit (well, a lot) too young for either of them in their heyday but my Dad was a Buddy Holly fan so passed all his records on to me. I didn't really realise that Elvis had been such a huge star until much later because I was brought up on Sam Cooke and Sam & Dave and The Everly Brothers rather than Elvis.

So would have to be Buddy for me.

BERNADETTE 17-08-2007 19:31

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Put me down as Buddy, can't say I was ever to keen on Elvis.

LancYorkYankee 17-08-2007 20:00

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As I've already noted in the "Elvis" thread, I'm a big fan of Buddy Holly. Really hard to compare the two as Elvis had so many HUGE hits and was so incredibly popular. You never know if Buddy had lived if he wouldn't have Jim Morrisoned/Jimmi Hendrixed on us!

Can you imagine Buddy Holly looking like John Lennon in the 1970s?:p

Brian

cherokee 17-08-2007 20:19

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Ummm Elvis For Me .... Although Big Fan Of Buddy Also

West Ender 17-08-2007 20:35

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Well, though I love Elvis, I'm keen on Buddy Holly too. The point is they were very different, in style, presentation and their music but diversity is what makes life, and certainly music, interesting.

I was very into Rock'n'Roll in my teens and I still enjoy it, I mean the old 50s type. I have CDs and albums of all the old "greats", Elvis, Buddy, Little Richard, Chuck Berry and the rest. I go a bit more into the 60s too, Beatles, Beach Boys (love them), Four Seasons and, of course, I go back to the 30s and 40s music too. I just love music. Sorry, though, I'm not keen on much after about 1975. (Is this because I'm getting a bit long in the tooth? :()

If it comes to a choice between Elvis and Buddy, it's got to be Elvis for me for his sheer magnetism. The Elvis I really go for is the Elvis of the 50s, before the silly jump suits and the personal problems. His very early songs, before all the showmanship, have something you don't often find in an artist. Mind you, that Come Back Special - with the black leather suit - well.....phwoooaaaah! :D

spud 17-08-2007 21:04

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How many blockbuster hollywood movies did buddy make?

As daft as the Q may be, his manager(was it general/major or summat) was quite an astute business gezzer, Just look at it this way...

You buy the cd/cassette/record/8track(get my drift) and play it religiously until you finally put the nail in the coffin an retire it to the archives...


No look at it from the army-ranked-name-guy manager bloke.

They will most certainly like this film that they will come back and watch it TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME...

The worldwide royalities from these films were phenominal, far more at the time than what could have been accrewed by vinyl.


Makes sense dunnit??


GLOBAL BRANDING ANYONE:confused:??

West Ender 17-08-2007 21:13

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I think you mean Colonel Tom Parker, Spud, not really a colonel at all and not even really called Tom Parker. Oh he was an astute businessman all right. He knew how to make money and he made it - for himself. When Elvis died, his manager was far, far richer than he was. ;)

Wynonie Harris 17-08-2007 22:17

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Personally, I would rate Chuck Berry and Little Richard as the two best performers of out-and-out rock 'n' roll but that's down to my own musical tastes.

As for "Colonel" Parker, he was a small time ex-carnival showman who couldn't see the bigger picture. In the 60's when Elvis was making a series of increasingly mediocre films and recording utter drivel like "Do The Clam", Parker should have been canvassing all the brightest young songwriters of the era to provide his star with exciting new material. Imagine the results if Lennon-McCartney or even Jagger-Richards had been asked to write songs for him. In the 70's when Elvis's Las Vegas shows were lapsing into self-parody, Parker should have had him out there on worldwide tours filling vast arenas. Elvis could have done so much more with a more visionary manager.

Incidentally, if you want to hear where Elvis copped his vocal style from, listen to an Amercian singer called Roy Brown (no, not "Chubby"!) if you get a chance. He sounds like he's copying Elvis...only thing is he was doing in the late 40's/early 50's!

Bagpuss 17-08-2007 22:37

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Of the two I'd go for Buddy Holly although if I had another choice it would be Eddie Cochran who also died far too young at 21.

ANNE 17-08-2007 22:42

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I like Buddy Holly but for me it's got to be ELVIS.

cashman 17-08-2007 22:42

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love early Elvis, but Buddy Holly for me no question,more talented, could write n produce his own stuff n was still a kid when he died.as for the colonel, the reason Elvis never toured anywhere but the states, the guy was an illegal immigrant n would not have been allowed back in the states if he left, so as well as robbing 50% of presleys earnings he deprived the world of seeing him to suit his own ends-- A BUM.:(

shakermaker 17-08-2007 22:46

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Holly all the way.

Not a fan of Elvis at all I'm afraid.

ANNE 17-08-2007 22:50

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That colonel was the down fall of Elvis and his pure greed. Elvis thought he was T.C.B but the fact was he only took care of him-self and robbed us of being able to see the great man over here.

ossy kid 17-08-2007 23:08

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Different, but both great in their own realm. Any of Buddy or early Elvis and I can dance the night away.

cashman 17-08-2007 23:11

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Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 461785)
Different, but both great in their own realm. Any of Buddy or early Elvis and I can dance the night away.

give me some of what your on ossykid, a couple of bops n i'm knackered.;)

grannyclaret 17-08-2007 23:16

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Elvis Was Lovely ,but So Was Buddy Holly,,,oooh What A Delemma ,,,they Were Both Fabulous,,,,i Think Buddy Holly Would Have Been A Lot More Popular Than He Was, If He Haddent Died So Young,,,21 I Think ,
Then There Was Billy Fury Too,,,wonderful

Wynonie Harris 17-08-2007 23:24

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 461791)
i Think Buddy Holly Would Have Been A Lot More Popular Than He Was, If He Haddent Died So Young

I think so too. I reckon if he'd lived his songwriting would have developed into the 60's and beyond and he'd have been up there with the Beatles, Stones and Dylan as one of the giants of popular music. In fact, I think he would have altered the course of pop music.

Alan Gilmartin 18-08-2007 00:27

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Agree Mr C, Parker, was a BUM, Pity he lost his greatest fan, ( Glady's ) so early in his career.

cashman 18-08-2007 00:31

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You've got some great stories Mr C, love to hear about June 59. - have transfered it here alan lol, was down St Marys Bay (Kent) with school and went in a coffee bar in Folkstone one night. 11 yrs old with me woobines trying to look cool lol, and this record (Everyday) came on the jukebox, was fascinated so went to look who it was, Buddy Holly of coarse, that was it,was well hooked,n every penny then went on his records, 2 yrs later i turned up at school one morning, with a donkey jacket on,with Buddy Holly on the back in studs,needless to say was sent home - to come back in my uniform pmsl, but had acheived my nickname which has stuck to this day.;):D

cherokee 18-08-2007 00:36

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,,,,i Think Buddy Holly Would Have Been A Lot More Popular Than He Was, If He Haddent Died So Young,,,21 I Think ,
oooo completely agree granny ... and i love watching the buddy holly story could watch it over and over ..

grannyclaret 18-08-2007 20:38

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When i hear true love ways ,it always reminds me of the last waltz at the mecca ballroom...

flashy 19-08-2007 09:03

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neither of them, i went off Elvis when they started re-releasing his singles all mashed up, and i dont think i know one song by Buddy Holly

West Ender 19-08-2007 14:40

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 462225)
and i dont think i know one song by Buddy Holly


Have you ever watched "Heartbeat" on a Sunday evening (ITV)? If you have, you know at least 1 Buddy Holly song, even though it's not him singing it. ;)

flashy 19-08-2007 15:02

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ok i may of heard them without knowing that its him singing them :D lol

pipinfort 19-08-2007 17:57

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got to be `The King ` for me.

Pendle Red 19-08-2007 18:19

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Buddy was Great!:)
But there was only one King!!:D
If there is one song that makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end it has to be " An American Triology" Pure class!!

garinda 19-08-2007 18:57

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 462354)
If there is one song that makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end it has to be " An American Triology" Pure class!!

I agree, that and 'How Great Thou Art' has the same affect on me.

Buddy Holly's music was great, but doesn't compare to Elvis's.

mez 19-08-2007 19:41

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buddy holly for me never did like elvis still don't. i prefared billy fury ..

ANNE 19-08-2007 19:47

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Same for me Pendle Red n Rindy. Beautiful sooo moving.

Eric 19-08-2007 21:05

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Both of them ... but Elvis had such a powerful voice; remember these were the days before the massive banks of amps and speakers, you can see it in the early Beatles broadcasts too. It's the voice tho' ... there again Elvis came out of the gospel tradition, the same roots that Mahalia Jackson came from ... now there is a singer! If you have never heard her stuff, give it a listen ...

Eric 19-08-2007 21:06

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And don't forget Edith Piaf, Cleo Lane, and Peggy Lee

garinda 19-08-2007 21:10

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Never that keen on Cleo's scat, give me Ella Fitzgerald or Lady Day anytime.

Love Piaf and Ms. Jackson but I'd also add Bessie Smith, she was one bluesy Momma.

Wynonie Harris 19-08-2007 21:34

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Still reckon Little Richard and Chuck Berry could out-rock Elvis anyday!

shakermaker 19-08-2007 22:20

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I don't accept that Elvis was one of the greatest singers, Roy Orbison was a much better singer than Elvis Presley (The Big O's version of Mean Woman Blues cannot be beaten). Buddy Holly - he was truly great.

Eric 19-08-2007 23:02

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 462455)
I don't accept that Elvis was one of the greatest singers, Roy Orbison was a much better singer than Elvis Presley (The Big O's version of Mean Woman Blues cannot be beaten). Buddy Holly - he was truly great.

Ok ... but do you remember the duet that he did with k. d. lang, that fantastic version of "Crying" ... I would say on that one k. d. had the more powerful voice.

grannyclaret 19-08-2007 23:20

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 462470)
Ok ... but do you remember the duet that he did with k. d. lang, that fantastic version of "Crying" ... I would say on that one k. d. had the more powerful voice.

Oh she is a great singer too..Have you heard her singing The air that i breath ,,, its every bit as good as The Hollies version .

garinda 19-08-2007 23:38

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 462470)
Ok ... but do you remember the duet that he did with k. d. lang, that fantastic version of "Crying" ... I would say on that one k. d. had the more powerful voice.

More testosterone.;)

Eric 20-08-2007 09:36

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 462486)
More testosterone.;)

Damnit ... and I always thought it was her baggier shorts:eek:


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