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Sara 06-10-2007 17:10
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Does anyone know if you can keep nail extentions on if you go into hospital for an op?

MargaretR 06-10-2007 17:12
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LOL - I thought this was about DIY :D

WillowTheWhisp 06-10-2007 17:13
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I did, twice. Probably best to ask your surgeon or other hospital specialist though.

flashy 06-10-2007 17:14
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if your having a finger amputated i guess it wouldnt be a great idea :D

Sara 06-10-2007 17:19
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Thanks Willow. Brilliant answer flashy.

WillowTheWhisp 06-10-2007 17:21
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Are yours long Sara? Mine are long but they are overlayed, my own nails are underneath. Don't know if that makes a difference.

Sara 06-10-2007 17:25
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Pretty long, but mine are overlayed too. Don't have the white tips on. Reason why i asked i have an appointment am to have my nails done and pm with the consultant. Probably jumping the gun a bit but my own doctor thinks i will need an op, and said with it coming up to Christmas i could be in around then if i have no objections.

WillowTheWhisp 06-10-2007 17:36
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Might be worth checking with the consultant first then. I know if you have glued on falsies you have to take them off but overlays are practically your own nail anyway. It's not like they could fall off during an op and get lost inside you, which is I think the reason why they say you must remove the stick on false ones.

lettie 06-10-2007 17:38
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As far as I know, you can keep them on but not have coloured polish on them, the polish must be clear for an op or it will be removed by the nursing staff with Acetone. A word of caution though...... microbiologists have taken swabs from underneath acrylic and gel nails. The swabs grow so many bugs that it is unbelievable (far more than under natural nails for some reason), you would never eat finger food with them again if you'd seen these swab results....:D

magpie 06-10-2007 17:47
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a good way to clean under them is with an old battery tooth brush.... or keep a head just for that use:

WillowTheWhisp 06-10-2007 18:04
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Another good way to clean under nails is shoving them into pastry - but don't use the pastry to make pies afterwards!

If you have natural nails with just an overlay will the swabs be the same as for natural nails Lettie? Mine seem to keep a lot cleaner when they are long and strengthened with overlays. If I leave them and the break they get dirt under whereas when they are long any dirt just falls off the end.

lettie 06-10-2007 18:30
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 478542)
Another good way to clean under nails is shoving them into pastry - but don't use the pastry to make pies afterwards!

If you have natural nails with just an overlay will the swabs be the same as for natural nails Lettie? .
I don't know Willow, I wouldn't have thought that the swabs would have been worse for the gel/acrylic than with natural but for some reason, they are.....It beats me why. :confused::)

MargaretR 06-10-2007 18:46
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Artificial nails - a health hazard - Health Minutes 04/08/2004
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BERNADETTE 06-10-2007 18:48
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Always said I'd never have false nails now I'm glad I haven't!!!!

WillowTheWhisp 06-10-2007 18:59
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Well it won't put me off having mine done because I can see the muck in them when they split and are short! :D

Lilly 06-10-2007 20:43
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 478534)
Might be worth checking with the consultant first then. I know if you have glued on falsies you have to take them off but overlays are practically your own nail anyway. It's not like they could fall off during an op and get lost inside you, which is I think the reason why they say you must remove the stick on false ones.
I thought that the reason you are not allowed to wear nail polish or false nails when having an operation was because the staff need to see the colour of your natural nails throughout. Something to do with your heart rate dropping if your nails go blue I think.:confused:

WillowTheWhisp 06-10-2007 21:01
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Well maybe that's why my overlays were OK then because they are not coloured. There could be a snag if you have long nails and they want to put one of those monitor thingies on the end of your finger.

katex 06-10-2007 23:25
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 478612)
I thought that the reason you are not allowed to wear nail polish or false nails when having an operation was because the staff need to see the colour of your natural nails throughout. Something to do with your heart rate dropping if your nails go blue I think.:confused:
LOL .. was just about to put up this info. Lilly .. but had to look up how to spell anaesthetist first :D:D

WillowTheWhisp 07-10-2007 07:18
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When I had two ops last year I asked about my nails and they just asked me if they were stuck on and likely to fall off. I demonstrated that you can't even pull them off as they are just my own real nails with a gel overlay and both times they just looked at them and said OK, must have been because you can see my nail bed with them just being transparent. Both occasions were at Royal Blackburn.

mez 07-10-2007 07:38
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i must admit i like the acrlic ones, but have stopped having them put on this year i need to get the strengh back in my own nails,its a long & weary task, but im getting there .....& yes they are cleaner.

panther 07-10-2007 10:27
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speaking of nails ...does anyone know the best place to get em done? and how much?

jelly baby 07-10-2007 11:15
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I had an op on my hand recently and was told I did not need to remove my nails.:)
JB

jelly baby 07-10-2007 11:20
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Originally Posted by panther (Post 478757)
speaking of nails ...does anyone know the best place to get em done? and how much?

I use 'Heads Above' on Deardengate in Haslingden, £28. Most places charge between £20 & £30 for a full set of acrylics, tips are sometimes slightly cheaper.
I once tried a place in Clayton, near lights:(, also a place on Water St Accy:mad:, & would not recommend either.

panther 07-10-2007 16:38
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will bear that in mind jelly baby...;)
thanx:D

WillowTheWhisp 07-10-2007 16:54
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I go to Angela Kay's at the bottom of Water Street.

Sara 07-10-2007 19:09
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Can recommand The Works on Warner Street. Troube is she get's booked up pretty quick.

Lilly 07-10-2007 21:49
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Kathy at Visions of Beauty on Union Rd in Ossy did my gel nails for a special occasion last year. I was very happy with them and went back every 5 weeks for in-fills for 6 months afterwards. I was loathe to have them removed but in the end money is quite tight in our house so couldn't justify the expense long term. It cost £30 for the initial full set and then £20 for the in-fills which you need every 4-5 weeks.

flashy 08-10-2007 08:47
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 479083)
Kathy at Visions of Beauty on Union Rd in Ossy


i go there to get my eyebrows waxed

lindsay ormerod 11-10-2007 18:54
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Home and Bargain have some great false nail sets in; a mere £ 1.99 ! They look really good on and you can varnish over them too ! They are called " red professional airbrush manicure nails" , you get 24 plus glue in a pack and they are ideal for holiday/ weekend out etc when you don't want the hassle of having the damn things getting in the way of work afterwards ! I put a set on last saturday and they have lasted until today ( thurs) without any falling off. Plus you can the things off yourself and not have to pay £10 for the privilege!

jelly baby 12-10-2007 10:35
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 478888)
I go to Angela Kay's at the bottom of Water Street.

Hmmm!
See my previous post!

WillowTheWhisp 12-10-2007 16:21
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Who did your at Angela Kays jellybaby? The staff has changed since Angela had her baby. Do you have gel or acrylic?

I once had mine done at Pasha and - never again! They were like spades.

The best I've ever had done was in Lancaster.

slinky 12-10-2007 16:57
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Originally Posted by lettie (Post 478535)
As far as I know, you can keep them on but not have coloured polish on them, the polish must be clear for an op or it will be removed by the nursing staff with Acetone. A word of caution though...... microbiologists have taken swabs from underneath acrylic and gel nails. The swabs grow so many bugs that it is unbelievable (far more than under natural nails for some reason), you would never eat finger food with them again if you'd seen these swab results....:D
On that point, it amazed me how many girls I worked with that had there nails done!! We work in a care setting, and when they had had them on for more than a week, you could see how dirty they were underneath :( This cannot be very healthy or hygienic , and I'm sorry but ALL nurses and health care workers should be told they are NOT allowed Acrylic or gel nails on!

WillowTheWhisp 12-10-2007 17:02
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Do you mean they get dirt between the gel and their own nail? How does that happen when the gel is bonded to the nail? Is it just a bad nail job? I know when I've damaged my nails and the gel has lifted I have had times when I got muck in the gap between. That really bugs me. Mostly though it just doesn't get between my nail and mu finger when they are long.

mez 12-10-2007 17:09
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when i was in catering, it was sacralidge (sp) to have longish nails so had to keep them very short for years, think thats why i had false ones done, now im back to trying to grow my own.

slinky 12-10-2007 17:11
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 480852)
Do you mean they get dirt between the gel and their own nail? How does that happen when the gel is bonded to the nail? Is it just a bad nail job? I know when I've damaged my nails and the gel has lifted I have had times when I got muck in the gap between. That really bugs me. Mostly though it just doesn't get between my nail and mu finger when they are long.
Well these girls go to pasha, and believe me there nails are disgusting after a week!! I wouldn't do health care work with my nails that long to start off with, god knows what are caught under these nails :(

WillowTheWhisp 12-10-2007 17:26
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Hmmm, I went to Pasha once and they were grim. They gel lifted from my nails and muck did get trapped. I couldn't even shift it with a nail brush and it was horrible.

slinky 12-10-2007 17:31
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 480867)
Hmmm, I went to Pasha once and they were grim. They gel lifted from my nails and muck did get trapped. I couldn't even shift it with a nail brush and it was horrible.
Well personally I don't know a good job between a bad job, luckily my nails are good, and grow on there own!!

But honest, these girls nails are MINGIN ... and they should be stopped from having them done if they work closely with poorly people!!

it only takes 1 little piece of POO to get stuck under them nails, then they go to another Client, and accidentally scratch them and break the skin, and you have a full blown infection on your hands!! easily done!

WillowTheWhisp 12-10-2007 17:43
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OOOH yuck! No, if mine were apt to getting stuff stuck under like that then off they would be PDQ.

slinky 12-10-2007 17:46
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 480879)
OOOH yuck! No, if mine were apt to getting stuff stuck under like that then off they would be PDQ.
My point exactly Willow, so why are Bosses not taking any notice of this potential cross infection going on in nursing homes and hospitals?? The mind boggles :rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp 12-10-2007 17:54
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Yes I totally agree Slinky. It sounds like an obvious way to spread infection.

Until I was expecting Emzie my own nails were strong and used to grow very quickly but during my pregnancy and afterwards they became very weak and would split and dirt get down between the splits. That drove me up the wall. One nail is particularly weak because I severed my finger years ago and the blood supply doesn't get to the nail bed properly. The nail grows oddly but it's difficult to describe. I haven't had those problems since having the gel overlays which is why they seem cleaner to me because nothing gets stuck as there isn't anywhere for it to get stuck.

Lilly 12-10-2007 20:16
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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 480849)
On that point, it amazed me how many girls I worked with that had there nails done!! We work in a care setting, and when they had had them on for more than a week, you could see how dirty they were underneath :( This cannot be very healthy or hygienic , and I'm sorry but ALL nurses and health care workers should be told they are NOT allowed Acrylic or gel nails on!
I agree with you, Slinky. Healthcare workers should be forbidden to have false nails.:(

Sara 16-10-2007 17:21
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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 480869)

it only takes 1 little piece of POO to get stuck under them nails, then they go to another Client, and accidentally scratch them and break the skin, and you have a full blown infection on your hands!! easily done!
Like Willow said the nail should be bonded. Before going to the works i had someone else doing them and after the gel came seperated from the nail i swopped places. But getting back to slinkys post, i always double glove when doing personal care.

WillowTheWhisp 16-10-2007 17:39
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I may try The Works next time if I'm not too happy. Must admit mine haven't been as good as they used to be.

jelly baby 19-10-2007 09:27
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 480814)
Who did your at Angela Kays jellybaby? The staff has changed since Angela had her baby. Do you have gel or acrylic?

I once had mine done at Pasha and - never again! They were like spades.

The best I've ever had done was in Lancaster.

Sorry for the delay in replying, haven't had time to log on for ages!
I prefer acrylics to gel.
I had them done about 4 months ago at Angela Kays,by a girl called Hayley.
When I went to where I now go, they couldn't believe the state of them.
They were horrible, very thick and too wide for my fingers!
I'm happy with the way they are done now.

PS
When I'm ready for a new set, I soak them off myself, a bottle of acetone is only a couple of quid from the chemist.

katex 19-10-2007 17:56
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Irrespective of the fact that artificial nails hold more bacteria .. I don't think they look good anyway. Sorry, girls, just an opinion. Think better paying for a professional manicure (not that I do like :rolleyes:)

WillowTheWhisp 19-10-2007 18:17
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If you had nails like mine Katex a manicure would do no good at all. They used to be OK but during my last pregnancy they went to pot. The gel is more of a necessity than a vanity. They would certainly hold muck and bacteria in the splits and cracks if left untended. Occasionally I do have a colour on or something but mostly it's just plain.

katex 19-10-2007 18:25
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 482931)
If you had nails like mine Katex a manicure would do no good at all. They used to be OK but during my last pregnancy they went to pot. The gel is more of a necessity than a vanity. They would certainly hold muck and bacteria in the splits and cracks if left untended. Occasionally I do have a colour on or something but mostly it's just plain.
Ok .. agree .. some women have nails which aren't very sightly .. I can't understand why nails go to pot during pregnancy though. Ok .. to do with the calcium ? Like teeth ? Surely they would recover afterwards though ? A course of calcium tablets would help possibly ? Course I have to take them all the time now to prevent osteoporosis (being of that certain age .. sob, sob) and has certainly improved the strength in my nails.

BERNADETTE 19-10-2007 18:30
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I'll have to get some calcium tablets, my nails are very weak. Would never have false nails just not for me. They must stop your own nails from ever being right!!!

WillowTheWhisp 19-10-2007 22:12
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They don't interfere with the growth of your own nails because that comes from further inside your finger.

I don't know why my nails and hair went to pot when I was pregnant. It didn't happen with earlier pregnancies but neither have recovered. My hair used to be thick and wavy but it went very thin and has stayed that way. It literally fell out in handfulls. No amount of treatment or supplements or consultation with GP has made a ha'porth of difference. The water retention started at the same time and I was told I would be back to normal in no time once I'd given birth. She is now 13 years old and I still have the water retention. Doc has tried various tablets but all to no avail. Believe me I'd much rather have my own strong nails back, and my thick wavy hair and lose all this flippin water if only I could.


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