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If it means absolutely astounded, apalled, and find it difficult to believe or understand , then it is the right idiom. I refer to tonights news on ITV which started with the trivial story about some guy agreeing to stay as a football manager for England. On and on it went and later they managed to find time to report the killing in Iraq of two people etc etc. What on earth is this Country coming to ?

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I agree. The priorities are completly wrong. This was a speculative story about a guy who has failed to do his job amongst a bunch of overrated and second rate performers. As far as I'm concerned, Sven-Goran (what sort of a name is that?) can stick his Abba records in the back of his Volvo and head off with Fancy Nancy back to where he belongs.

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Sorry Owd Bert...but that's just a reflection of the sorry state of our society.

Care is a bad word.....discipline an even worse word...

Crimes go unreported because of the lack of trust in our police and even more lack of trust in the legal system.

Compassion, consideration and respect are things of the past. Fortunately there are still a few (getting even less every year) who can remember and still do care. It's not just the young ones, as I know many young peoiple who really do care and are just as worried as we are. A lot of the blame should be laid at the feet of the Media, who are only interested in one thing......making money

Deterioration can only go on for so long...until the preverbial bubble bursts...god help us all.

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yes priorties are a little askew, maybe I think a story on the offensive racsim that still stains our society that Tealeaf seems to think clever to post on forums.

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Some of us find political correctness even more offensive

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If Sven did do a good job and win something then it would be an embarrsment to the country in my opinion.. He should never have got the Job. The whole idea of a national side is to represent your country. Isn't there somehting wrong with this picture when someone from another country is representing us? Do we send an amercian to sing for us in the european song contest? do we get a german to swim for us in the olympics? and so on.... It's the English national team so should be staffed at all levels by English..

As for the news.. Well the news would be on 24 hrs a day and still not be enough if they where to cover every murder in every country...

St Georges day.....Coming soon........

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The funny thing is that in 1958 when Sweden were beaten in the world cup final by Brazil the Swedish manager was English (or so I once read - anyone confirm?)....so thats further than Svens taken England.

But Kipax is right. If there are restrictions on players pertaining to nationality then surely the same should apply to management. After all, it the the manager who determins stratergy for a competition and tactics during a match - it is the manager who decides who comes off & who goes on - so his decisions are just just as important to the outcome of the game as the play of any individual player.

Anyway, can you imagine France or Italy using a non-national manager. They would simply not tolerate the shame.

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3 Cheers for Tealeaf at the moment political correctness is going crazy maybe like the people who are causing this ever increasing problem in our society.

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Thanks Bagpuss...and on that score I'm retiring for a pint (to a little Polish pub down the street, just to show I'm not that bad)

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they want to keep ppl watching, ppl are bored with iraq.

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What the hell are you on about Accy?

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BORED WITH IRAQ. wanna watch your mouth pal. i've had friends killed over there. i've got friends out there now, risking their necks day in day out.

there are far more important things going on in the world than sven and his boys (big england fan myself)

just forget about footy for a short while and look at the big picture. all people are trying to say is that the coverage was disproportionate (if thats the right word to use, or if its spelt right). sport should be done at the end. there are hundreds of issues out there that we need, or would like to know about. and not just footy issues. its world news. thats all people are trying to say.

think before you post mate.

nothing personal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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sorry thats not what i mean.

im just trying to answer the question why they do this not condoning it. many people who dont really no someone or ppl over therefind it the same news every night about iraq.

i dont personally care if sven does what he does cause i dont reckon the conttract means anything.

im not saying iraq isnt important but what do ITV want?




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Mac, I think you have got the wrong end of the stick. I personally lost friends in most conflicts since 1969. I personally am sick of Iraq on TV all the time. It is a war no-one wanted except Poodle Bliar and his croney in the stained White House. Whilst I agree it isn't nice to loose friends in conflicts, and I have been in enough, this was one war that was not required. It was just to get rid of Hussain, which should have been done first time around. I know Terrorism is a major point at the moment, but a few feel good stories would be nice.

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Dear oh Dear....we are getting a bit hot-headed.

The thread was originally about Sven and the England team, and not playing Iraq at football.

I always believed sport was ...sport, a sort of out of hours recreation for the masses. OK if England have a jap or brazilian manager....so what. Football is no longer sport...but business, and anybody who can't see that, can't see at all.
I watch football, very often (I played good standard football until 55 years of age), and I see very talented, but spoiled young lads who are molly-coddled and idolised by the press and media....when they are...just young lads who kick a ball.

It's nothing to get hot about under the collar. Interesting, fun,..........yes of course. But put it into perspective against the world backdrop and everybodys daily problems...it pales into insignificance.

As for Iraq, Islam, and Terrorism....this thread ain't the place to discuss it. Open a new one if you want to bring the subject to the fore. Personally, I know that the population of almost all countries does not get enough true information about what is and has happened, and "political correctness rules KO".

Therefore: "No Comment, but I have my own opinions based on a lot more information than most"

Now can we get back to Sven and his girlfriend...or his team?

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good one darby , thanks //

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As for football darby.. thats your opinion of what football is and not fact... we all have our own feelings.. you cant simply tell everyone its not important.. you can inform people of your opinions and what you believe... but for some people football takes on a lot more importance and meaning... its not for you to say they are wrong :)

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Did I say anybody was wrong?? or did I imply that??

I was also young once (surprise), and was a big Rovers Fan, my son is a big Rovers Fan. I was on the old stanley site as Tanpits Tom, and thoroughly enjoyed it and the banter. I use to feel gutted on Saturday nights if Rovers had got beat. So I'm not saying that anybody is wrong. Just trying to get things in perspective.

I'm not standing on a soap-box and preaching..just trying to be sensible and provide those who believe (and its their right to) that football is the be all and end all of society, that there is life after football, and before and during it.

OK go ahead and enjoy it, I do when I go up to the Crown ground (Interlink Stadium to some), and I like the banter/chat and have a good laugh and watch some honest endevour football from some young lads who care about their club (the language is not a problem to me being ex-RN).

So think before you accuse :wario:

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Deary me... calm down :) My point was that not everyone thinks like you.. some people actualy think football is very important.. some even think its life or death.....

Thats my point.. try not to be insulted by it mate :)

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Your point was obvious, and taken in the way it was meant to be.

I'm not sure you could insult me... it's been tried before by professionals... without success.
Like your Photos though ;)

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Just to continue this theme of priorities in the media. While there was major trouble in Iraq yesterday which could well be spreading to the British Sector and while it appears that (our) government has now abdicated it's primary purpose - the defence of our frontiers - what does our Tabloid press have to say?

Very little. Instead, we have 4 or 6 pages on Beckham playing away from home. I am just sick and tired of seeing lots of pictures and newsprint on the antics of this "celebrity couple".

As far as I am concerned, my neighbour's cat has more musical talent (and also looks better) than Mrs Beckham. And Given Mr Beckham's rather limited footballing skills, I think the same cat could probably play better than him giving a morning's coaching.

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The problem with it is, the fact that viewing figures and sales of newspapers govern what the content of them is! Although many people are dying all around the world, not just Iraq, but Spain and even closer to home, it seems mr Beckham having an affair is supposedly far more important!! :eek:

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I think you got it in one Savo. The press really want us to bury our heads in the sand, whilst Rome burns. Talk about a hidden agenda!!

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There might be a reason why everyone in this thread is agreeing with each other and no one is attempting to debate the issue with you. :)

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At the end of the day i love football more than life itself (memories of the physio sport ad with Paolo Di Canio spring to mind). But i also understand that not every body is of the same opinion as me.
If england were to win a major trophy i could understand football being the major headline, or if somebody such as Alex Ferguson or Geoff Hurst, some one who has brought a lot to the game died (god forbid!), but for a manager, or a player, (who at the end of the day everybody hated only 5 years ago) grab the front pages regarding their personal lives, it is 'dumbing down' the atrocities going on elsewhere on this planet!
There are an awful lot of people whose family members are serving to protect every one of our futures against the likes of bin Laden and his crones, not to mention our brave soldiers in Iraq, Northern Ireland and other places around the world. These are the people who deserve the headlines, not sports stars, pop singers or inflatable models!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sonic:

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I dont ever buy the daily papers because of the reasons stated, what does it say about the population of paper readers if they would rather read about so called STARS in the media all the time, rather than what is going on around the world.

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...I've just read the "Times"....even that has got a full page of this peurile drivel. I despair, I really do.

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I don't buy any national papers because they are full of nonsense about celebrities that I really couldn't care less about. I do get the Accy Observer and even the little local rag sensationalises it's headlines.

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been away for a while. just read about 10 posts. see your points. will mention this then leave you to the football.

its just easy to get a little wound up when memories are still fresh in your head, and you hear some people not appreciating what is realy happening. nuff said. didnt mean to kick off.

asppologies.

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[QUOTE=Tealeaf] we have 4 or 6 pages on Beckham playing away from home. I am just sick and tired of seeing lots of pictures and newsprint on the antics of this "celebrity couple".
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Unfortunately, for some reason everyone in the media wants them to split up. Personally I hope they have the perfect marriage they seem to have, what does it matter to us anyway? I know that I wouldn't find it easy to make a relationship last when everyone around is trying to ruin it.

What does my head in about the news is that if something happens in the northwest it stays on the northwest news, if the same thing happens in the south it's national news! And weather reports - If the north gets snow no one knows about it, London gets 3 flakes of snow - & once again national news! Sorry to moan - but I'm really feeling this North/South divide.

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You're quite right about that Shortie. The main culprit of the lot is the so-called " British" Broadcasting Corporation; of course, it is nothing of the sort. It is the London Broadcasting Corporation, sprouting 24hours a day politically-correct drivel on a spurious agenda of pro-islamic fundamentalism, pro-EU, pro-Gay marriage and pro- any crackpot cause you may care to mention. This, they believe, is what people in britain want to see & hear.
It's nonsense; and the sooner the BBC is abolished - or at least has it's license funding revoked - the better. That way we can get broadcasting resources back on a regional basis so we can watch things that are of concern to us.

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What ever happened to "Look North", time to bring it back?

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"Look North" - it went south.

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What's worse about BBC one - is that if you have Sky there are 2000 different channels of BBC one (1 for every region) but they all show the same thing at the same time - so why pretend they cater for all areas! At least ITV1 is actually different when your out of the Granada region.

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I don't have sky, purely because I refuse to pay for all those different channels and still have nothing decent to watch. I rarely watch the Beeb, being as there's nothing on there either. I watch local news on ITV and national news on ITV an very little else. Only have the telly on for about an hour a day. You don't need telly when you have a life....

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I won't take offense at that!

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Ooops!! No offence intended to anyone. My point is that I can normally find something better to do than watch a load of drivel. It usually involves a couple of strongbows mind you, but I have genuinely been way too busy lately to bother with the telly.

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Don't worry Lettie - I knew what you meant! But you know you watch too much telly when you talk about soap characters like their your friends & neighbours!