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emamum 03-05-2008 13:36

life education van?
 
I got a letter from ty's school telling me he will be having a drug awareness lesson next week in the life education van... (he is 6!!!!)

has anyone elses children had this?

lancsdave 03-05-2008 13:39

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One of ours had it this week. They get taught about various drugs and how they affect various body parts. I think it's to prepare them for life in Accrington :D

emamum 03-05-2008 13:40

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 570917)
One of ours had it this week. They get taught about various drugs and how they affect various body parts. I think it's to prepare them for life in Accrington :D

why on earth would a 6 year old need to know that :confused::confused:

flashy 03-05-2008 14:01

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so they are aware of it????

ok Emma look at it this way, someone comes upto your kid at school and offers him what he thinks are sweets but are actually drugs, now do you get it? stop being so naive

mrskitty 03-05-2008 14:04

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6 year olds have been caught smoking dope (there was a programme on about it the other day) and i once came across an 8 year old injecting heroin when i did my paper round when i was 15.......
I think educating them early about drugs and the effects is a good idea.

emamum 03-05-2008 14:15

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 570933)
6 year olds have been caught smoking dope (there was a programme on about it the other day) and i once came across an 8 year old injecting heroin when i did my paper round when i was 15.......
I think educating them early about drugs and the effects is a good idea.

that is ridiculous!!

i caught a 9 year old smoking once... felt a bit of a fraud giving her a lecture on it..especially as id gone round there for a fag at break time :D

i used to know a 4 year old that could tell you how to roll a joint...
are parents that bad now that children need educating about drugs? my 6 year old is never out of my sight so wouldnt have a chance to 'score'

where's childrens innocence gone?
ive never been worked ina school that gives drug education to children so young, we had this in high school
i might ask the head if i can sit in on the lesson.

emamum 03-05-2008 14:18

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 570930)
so they are aware of it????

ok Emma look at it this way, someone comes upto your kid at school and offers him what he thinks are sweets but are actually drugs, now do you get it? stop being so naive

dont take sweets from strangers!

bernie94 03-05-2008 14:21

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 570933)
6 year olds have been caught smoking dope (there was a programme on about it the other day) and i once came across an 8 year old injecting heroin when i did my paper round when i was 15.......
I think educating them early about drugs and the effects is a good idea.

oh my my an 8 year old injecting heroin what is the world coming too beyond belief, sad world we now live in i had never heard of drugs until i was about 15 definitely agree educate them early

emzy 03-05-2008 14:22

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 570945)
dont take sweets from strangers!


It may not be a complete stranger, it may be someone that they have spoken to before. You can never be too careful. Its better educating the children early and when they will listen, hopefully having this awareness from a young age will make them more cautious. Leaving it til secondry school age it too late in a lot of cases, slightly different but I tried smoking at 11, had not had the "lessons" on that back then, just thought it was cool, my niece was younger than this when she got caught trying it. A lot of its peer pressure but if they know from this age that it is wrong then there is less of a chance of them trying it. As someone said in a previoust post, seeing children pre secondary school doing drugs, they need this education early

jaysay 03-05-2008 14:25

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When I hear about things like this, I just shake my head, what kind of society are we living in when we are having to teach six-year-olds about drugs. The thing is that if you don't talk to children at this early age about these issues then some mother and father will end up broken hearted when their child is offered some "SWEETS" and they take them, with disastrous effects:(

flashy 03-05-2008 14:25

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 570945)
dont take sweets from strangers!


yeah like they all remember that lesson :rolleyes: and your telling me all the kids at his school are strangers?

emamum 03-05-2008 14:26

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fair enough educate them young, in a way that is age and stage apropriate but it is sad that it has come to this!

I am definately gunna ask the head if i can sit in cos this has got my interest.

cashman 03-05-2008 14:30

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it may be sad ema, but think its a damn good idea these days, ah mean come on accy aint Disneyland.:confused:

emamum 03-05-2008 14:32

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 570917)
One of ours had it this week. They get taught about various drugs and how they affect various body parts. I think it's to prepare them for life in Accrington :D

i think this is tmi for a 6 year old..........

drugs are bad....... yeah

(southpark btw)

lettie 03-05-2008 14:40

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It's a sad state of affairs that we have to educate 6 year olds about drugs, but it is a fact of life these days. There are so many drug users and abusers around, many of whom have small children too. There are young children all over the country living in drug using households or are offered drugs at school or whilst playing out. Short of locking all kids up until they are 18, the only other way is to educate.

polly 03-05-2008 14:49

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 570951)
fair enough educate them young, in a way that is age and stage apropriate but it is sad that it has come to this!

I am definately gunna ask the head if i can sit in cos this has got my interest.

That sounds like a really good idea. Infact it would probably be a better idea for it to be made compulsory for all the parents to attend - but of course the one who need to be there would not show up.

In my experience if a young child knows what to do with drugs it is because they have seen their parents or siblings using them at home.

Fraid I dont know what the solution is it seems to be ingrained into our society that parents have the right to be as irresponsible as they wish

cherokee 03-05-2008 15:01

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Sadly we live in a world where our children really do need educating on such issues. drugs are everywhere these days . schools, youth clubs, street corners, blimey they,re even openly sung about, used in lyrics like the are second nature.

Its a sad sad world we live in and our childrens children are the ones to suffer it ..

Lilly 03-05-2008 16:03

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The life education van has been to my childrens' school twice.

The first time it came my son was in reception class and, I must admit, initially I thought along similar lines to you, emamum.....too much too young etc.

They invited all parents to visit the van prior to each session to see what the children would be taught.

They do sessions for children from reception to year 6 and the sessions are age appropriate.

In reception they had puppets telling a story and they learnt about healthy bodies, good foods and bad foods....vegetables yes, chips no etc.
They were told about the need for regular exercise and not to wander off from your mum or go off with strangers.

The second time it came my son was in year one. He attended a session where they were told about good drugs and bad drugs. He told me when he came home how some people need to take regular drugs for a medical condition and how we may need medicines when we're ill but that there are some drugs that can damage your body and make you ill and we must not take these. They were told not to accept anything from strangers.

He was told about smoking causing cancer and how it makes the heart beat faster. They were also told about alcohol and the effects of drinking too much.

He learnt a lot and I was impressed with the way the information was given.

Don't worry, emamum. Your son won't be shown anything inappropriate or told any horror stories. It's education done in an age sensitive way.

garinda 03-05-2008 16:15

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It does seem shocking, but if it's done in a way six year olds will understand, I think it is a sensible idea.

I watched a programme this week about cannabis, and I was horrified at statistics which showed 40% of twelve year olds in the U.K. had smoked dope. Warning of the dangers of drugs, as part of education, can only be a good thing.

AccyLass 03-05-2008 16:31

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I think it's a great idea especially for the unfortunate children that have druggies for parents

So that if their parents have drugs lying round the house, they might be less likely to want to eat a tablet or drink something once they have been told the danger of it/what it could do to their body

Also children are good at guilt tripping people, I know when I smoked, my daughter kept coming home and telling me that smoking was going to kill her Mum, me! So, what did I do? Gave up, of course:)

Obviously they don't or can't just do it for that reason, there are plenty of other reasons too

shillelagh 03-05-2008 16:43

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When i was governor at the local school we were all invited to it to see what the kids would be learning as well as the parents. It was interesting what the kids would be learning and it was all done to fit the age. The life van normally parks up for a week at the school and the kids are in and out of it all week.

garinda 03-05-2008 17:30

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Well from what other parents have posted, whose children have already been, it seems a very worthwhile initiative.

steeljack 03-05-2008 17:32

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just another excuse for parents to abdicate responsibilty and expect the state to take care of things .......
How many on here have bothered to call the police when they know illegal drugs are being used or sold in their local area ? but thought , nah , it's none of my business .
How many on here have called thier MP and asked him why if the Govt. thinks certain drugs are ok in small quantities why is it neccessary to educate children about the evils of drugs .

garinda 03-05-2008 17:40

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 571035)
just another excuse for parents to abdicate responsibilty and expect the state to take care of things .......
How many on here have bothered to call the police when they know illegal drugs are being used or sold in their local area ?


Me.:D

As for your first statement, would you suggest home schooling for all children, rather than parents relinquishing the responsibility of general education to the State?:rolleyes::D

garinda 03-05-2008 17:48

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 571035)
just another excuse for parents to abdicate responsibilty and expect the state to take care of things .

Personally I think it is the State's responsibility to educate it's future citizens in all matters, and not just the three R's.

As a society we should strive to ensure that our children receive all the learning and wisdom they can, because sadly a lot of children don't get much of that at home.

If just one kids avoids becoming a smack head because of this, then that is worth it in my opinion.

steeljack 03-05-2008 17:56

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 571040)

As for your first statement, would you suggest home schooling for all children, rather than parents relinquishing the responsibility of general education to the State?:rolleyes::D

No, certainly not (as you well know) but ...what I am saying is , Parents have a greater responsibility to look after the upbringing of thier children than a school teacher whos job is to educate a child , not babysit , or engage in social engineering thru either political correctness or the political propaganda that happens to be the flavour of the day ;) :D

Less 03-05-2008 18:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 570948)
When I hear about things like this, I just shake my head, what kind of society are we living in when we are having to teach six-year-olds about drugs. The thing is that if you don't talk to children at this early age about these issues then some mother and father will end up broken hearted when their child is offered some "SWEETS" and they take them, with disastrous effects:(

Yes, you are so right, drug abuse knows no boundaries, (as with other forms of abuse), no matter how careful we all try to be temptation can easily be put in front of a curious child better that the child has been given five minutes of warning than we should all live with a life time of regret!
:o

shillelagh 03-05-2008 18:34

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 571034)
Well from what other parents have posted, whose children have already been, it seems a very worthwhile initiative.

It is rindy. The kids benefit from it, the life education people cover a lot of subjects - drugs, sex education, healthy lifestyles whats good for them and whats not.

Its took me ages to find the website.

About Life Education Centres

emamum 13-05-2008 16:24

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ty had his lesson in the van today.. he says they talked about healthy and unhealthy food.. i asked if there was anything about medicines and he said yeah..... dont take medicine you dont need, it will make you poorly......thats it!


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