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emzy 19-05-2008 18:27

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Strange question (sorry) but I know one of you out there will be able to give me an answer to this:

When I had my new bathroom fitted, I questioned the inspector as the lid will not lift off my "cistern" thingie at the back of the toilet (technical description that!!) I wanted to put them loo-blue efforts in. I was told that you are not meant to be able to lift them off so just said oh ok. Later wondered if this was right or not, what if there was a problem and a plumber needed to get to the bits inside?? Should you be able to lift the lid off?? Please can someone tell me, I want blue water :D

MargaretR 19-05-2008 18:30

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Originally Posted by emzy (Post 578791)
Strange question (sorry) but I know one of you out there will be able to give me an answer to this:

When I had my new bathroom fitted, I questioned the inspector as the lid will not lift off my "cistern" thingie at the back of the toilet (technical description that!!) I wanted to put them loo-blue efforts in. I was told that you are not meant to be able to lift them off so just said oh ok. Later wondered if this was right or not, what if there was a problem and a plumber needed to get to the bits inside?? Should you be able to lift the lid off?? Please can someone tell me, I want blue water :D

Why not settle for yellow like everyone else :D
Seriously though - those blue thingies damage marine life

flashy 19-05-2008 18:30

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pmsfl your off yer head mrs ;) is it a new smaller cistern? i know my sister has one like that thats fixed on, its all one unit isnt it, just buy some blue bleach, that should sort yer problem out ;)

panther 19-05-2008 18:31

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How are ya supposed to fix the thing if it goes kerput?

iv never heard of it...then again i aint got a new bathroom suite, mine is ancient:(

is there any other way 'in'??

iv got green water:D

flashy 19-05-2008 18:33

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 578796)
iv got green water:D



:eek:you can get cream for that :rolleyes:

MargaretR 19-05-2008 18:33

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 578796)

iv got green water:D

Cut down on chartreuse consumption urgently

BERNADETTE 19-05-2008 18:36

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 578803)
Cut down on chartreuse consumption urgently

Explanation please:confused: Can't be bothered looking it up:p

MargaretR 19-05-2008 18:36

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 578806)
Explanation please:confused: Can't be bothered looking it up:p

Green chartreuse liquer

flashy 19-05-2008 18:37

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liquers i think Bernie (green and yellow)

Royboy39 19-05-2008 18:38

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 578794)
Why not settle for yellow like everyone else :D
Seriously though - those blue thingies damage marine life

Is that why we don't use 'Dolly Blue' anymore?:p

panther 19-05-2008 18:38

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Lmao........

MargaretR 19-05-2008 18:40

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 578810)
Is that why we don't use 'Dolly Blue' anymore?:p

Detergent manufacturers now include 'whiteners' in their products - that is why your garments fade unless you buy detergent especially for coloureds.
Both types are enviromentally damaging

MUMMIBOO 19-05-2008 18:42

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It will come off but you will have to put it back together again! we have fitted our own and it was a pain in the backside !!!! they are not made to be lifted. because the inside is conected to the flush buttons for the short flush/long flush.

emzy 19-05-2008 18:48

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Hmmm, it has a lid and it moves slightly but i cant lift it off. Was just curious really, also not sure how they will be able to fix it (as my flush button keeps sticking!)

I was only asking a question about my loo, am already aware of what chemicals are used in detergents etc which is why I am selective in what I use, especially for and around the boys (have previously worked as a lab technician)

Benipete 19-05-2008 19:34

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Sounds like a Spanish one is it a Rocca

emzy 19-05-2008 19:35

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 578867)
Sounds like a Spanish one is it a Rocca

I have no idea, havent seen anything on the toilet to say who the manufacturer is

Retlaw 19-05-2008 19:56

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They are made that way to stop you puttng in them blue thingy's, they rot the valve on the end of the syphon plunger.
Its probably cheaper to replace the whole unit these days than to fit a new syphon.
Retlaw.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emzy (Post 578791)
Strange question (sorry) but I know one of you out there will be able to give me an answer to this:

When I had my new bathroom fitted, I questioned the inspector as the lid will not lift off my "cistern" thingie at the back of the toilet (technical description that!!) I wanted to put them loo-blue efforts in. I was told that you are not meant to be able to lift them off so just said oh ok. Later wondered if this was right or not, what if there was a problem and a plumber needed to get to the bits inside?? Should you be able to lift the lid off?? Please can someone tell me, I want blue water :D


Benipete 19-05-2008 19:57

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If you can't get hold of the plumber who fit it let me know i will have a look at it but it sounds Spanish to me.

emzy 19-05-2008 19:59

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 578884)
If you can't get hold of the plumber who fit it let me know i will have a look at it but it sounds Spanish to me.


It was a subcontractor on behalf of hyndburn homes, might just call them out about the flush sticking problem, they will have to take it off then lol

emamum 19-05-2008 20:00

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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO (Post 578818)
It will come off but you will have to put it back together again! we have fitted our own and it was a pain in the backside !!!! they are not made to be lifted. because the inside is conected to the flush buttons for the short flush/long flush.

i dont think you did it right :p

Royboy39 19-05-2008 20:16

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 578867)
Sounds like a Spanish one is it a Rocca

Nowt wrong with Rocca......Ive got one.

If the blue flush can't be inserted..use bleach.

Flush toilets are a luxury....
Haslingden 1947 ..Tippler...Takes a hell of a long time to drop.
Malaya 1958...foot pads with a hole in the ground.
Malaya 1959...multiple personnel toilets...mind you don't get your goolies trapped when the buckets are emptied without warning.
Malaya 1960....Hole in the ground...a retaining pole to swing and bite on to but ensure that one of your so called friends has not sawn through the pole first.
Church 1962....Outside toilet...100 yards from farmhouse...newspaper on a string...wood board...scrubbed every week...over a dustbin...my job to empty it every week.
Blackburn 1964....Outside toilets....bloody freezing.
Don't talk to me about toilets........You don't know your born.
Happy days. :rolleyes:

Benipete 19-05-2008 20:32

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Never said there was anything wrong with Rocca but they are different and some designs are a pain.But as i spent a year in Benidorm mending the things i may be of some help.

West Ender 19-05-2008 20:37

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That takes me back, Royboy, the tippler. I can remember my mum, when I was very small, instructing me to run the cold tap for a few minutes after going to the loo. :D

When we had an inside lavatory installed in the bathroom it was like the height of luxury. No more going outside (all of 6 feet from the back door) with the risk of huge spiders (my brothers always told me there would be one and it would be lurking just under the rim, waiting to jump on to my bum) and the very real peril of daddy-long-legs in August - how do you answer Nature's call while screaming and trying to swat the hideous thing with a piece of Izal loo roll? It's impossible.

My present loo is at least 20 years old and needs replacing (as does the rest of the bathroom suite). I used to use those blue things (the lid lifts off mine very easily) but now I just plonk a bit of Domestos in the pan every night. I stopped using the loo-bloos when I realised they were leaving a slimy deposit at the bottom of the cistern.

emzy 19-05-2008 20:38

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 578901)
Nowt wrong with Rocca......Ive got one.

If the blue flush can't be inserted..use bleach.

Flush toilets are a luxury....
Haslingden 1947 ..Tippler...Takes a hell of a long time to drop.
Malaya 1958...foot pads with a hole in the ground.
Malaya 1959...multiple personnel toilets...mind you don't get your goolies trapped when the buckets are emptied without warning.
Malaya 1960....Hole in the ground...a retaining pole to swing and bite on to but ensure that one of your so called friends has not sawn through the pole first.
Church 1962....Outside toilet...100 yards from farmhouse...newspaper on a string...wood board...scrubbed every week...over a dustbin...my job to empty it every week.
Blackburn 1964....Outside toilets....bloody freezing.
Don't talk to me about toilets........You don't know your born.
Happy days. :rolleyes:


Sorry for asking advice from fellow accywebbers, didnt realise it would cause such offense or such an issue. I may only be young but I am well aware what its like to have to use outside toilets / buckets / holes in the ground etc. Was only asking a simple question as to whethere there was a fault with my lav or not

Royboy39 19-05-2008 20:43

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Originally Posted by emzy (Post 578918)
Sorry for asking advice from fellow accywebbers, didnt realise it would cause such offense or such an issue. I may only be young but I am well aware what its like to have to use outside toilets / buckets / holes in the ground etc. Was only asking a simple question as to whethere there was a fault with my lav or not

No problem Love...not having a go at you in any way,shape or form.
Please don't be offended it wasn't supposed to come across like that.

emzy 19-05-2008 20:48

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Thought you were then,

I aint that posh, ive p'd behind a bush many a time :D but just couldnt figure this loo out. My old house had push button loo and could lift the lid on that, I just found it strange that you cant with this one, and given how "dodgy" some of the work has been done I just wanted to check before making a prat of myself ringing hyndburn homes lol

MUMMIBOO 20-05-2008 16:17

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You just have a short flush loo or close coupled loo em, does it have 2 small half buttons to make up a full button?

Margaret Pilkington 20-05-2008 16:23

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We have had one of these toilets fitted for the last six or seven years, and have never had any problems with it.
It is better to have the long and short flush...uses less water that way.
I don't bother with the blue loo things....I prefer my water to be the colour of water:D

MUMMIBOO 20-05-2008 16:25

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Its short flush= No 1 and big flush= No 2. If thats what you have (which sounds like it to me) then you cant take the lid off willy nilly the internal mechanisam is connected directly to the buttons. If the buttons are sticking give it a few flushes before you call them out they can soon sort that.

You just wont be able to use the loo blu!

Royboy39 20-05-2008 16:26

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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO (Post 579172)
Does it have 2 small half buttocks to make up a full bottom?

What sort of a question is that? :D:D:D

MUMMIBOO 20-05-2008 16:30

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 579175)
What sort of a question is that? :D:D:D

Lol do you know i actually had to read back my post to see if i really did put that! :D

Royboy39 20-05-2008 16:32

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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO (Post 579176)
Lol do you know i actually had to read back my post to see if i really did put that! :D

Thought you would.....I bet a few more did as well :p

BERNADETTE 20-05-2008 17:04

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 579177)
Thought you would.....I bet a few more did as well :p

Your right cause I just did:p

derekgas 20-05-2008 18:07

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To answer your question emzy, the 2 buttons are as described by mummiboo, one is a half flush and one a full flush, the chrome coloured ring around them will unscrew and allow the lid to be lifted, it is this ring that is attached to the syphon so that it holds the buttons in place and prevents the lids from coming off, if the buttons are sticking, they are not aligned properly, have the council send the plumber back to sort it out. If it is a single button by the way, press and let go for short flush, press and hold for full flush.

emzy 20-05-2008 18:12

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 579218)
To answer your question emzy, the 2 buttons are as described by mummiboo, one is a half flush and one a full flush, the chrome coloured ring around them will unscrew and allow the lid to be lifted, it is this ring that is attached to the syphon so that it holds the buttons in place and prevents the lids from coming off, if the buttons are sticking, they are not aligned properly, have the council send the plumber back to sort it out. If it is a single button by the way, press and let go for short flush, press and hold for full flush.


Thanks, it is 2 button (one big round one with another smaller one slightly raised within the bigger button if that makes sense). I will give it a go and see how i get on, but will ring HH to sort if problem persists. (problem last happened to babysitter when I was out a few weeks back, it wouldnt stop flushing so had to come home to sort it)

Pendle Red 20-05-2008 19:08

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Down the Pan:D

emzy 20-05-2008 19:08

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Sorted!! It did screw off (never thought of trying that to be honest :rolleyes:)

Thanks for your help Derekgas, most appreciated


Although this has left me wondering about my life................ if one of my main problems is how to take the lid off my toilet then I either have a very sad life or a very content one with nothing better to worry about lol :D

WillowTheWhisp 20-05-2008 21:45

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I have trouble with those push button flushes, can never seem to get the short flush to flush. I think it's my fingers. I prefer the old fashioned handle and put a brick inside to save water.

MUMMIBOO 20-05-2008 22:06

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Glad you sorted it.

Neil 21-05-2008 03:11

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 579363)
put a brick inside to save water.

Sod saving water, I want plenty of water flushing out my almost 100 year old drains. Last time I had to clear the pipe was not a nice job. :eek:


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