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Does anyone know when a pub called the Australia ? closed? Also was the Woodnook on Nuttall Street ever called the Carters Arms?

Thanks

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The Australian closed in the 50s as for the Woodnook, didn't know it was on Nuttall Street can only recall the Brittania on there.

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The woodnook was on carter st behind the factory bottoms it was never called the carters

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surely you can recall THE STAR lower down than the brit ;)

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the Star and the Brittania were both thwaites houses on Nuttall st.:)

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think yer wrong mate, i was goin in the Australian early 60s, the then landlady is still batting n lives off Buckingham Grove.;)

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Think you are right on this one ... I remember the Australian going in the 60s ... nice place for a quiet sociable drink with one's mother on a Saturday nite:D:D:dancedog:

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yep they had n alsation which stayed out in the yard to deter vagabonds.:D the son actually lives down church, used to play footy wi him on the broadway carpark.

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Im with you Mr C, It was still there when the accy Cavern was going.

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I think Owd Bert had a photo of it at one time.

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You must have been under age cashy:D I seem to remember it being boarded up but can't remember it being open, I certainly didn't go in, but it looks like missed a treat:D

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Don't remember the Star beechy, used to go in the Brit in the mid 70s as I live on Nelson street for a couple of years, when did the star close?

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think the star closed in the 70s sometime aint sure when, n yes i was 13/14 when i first went in the australian, have a great tale fer ya next time i pop round,;)

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What was the name of the pub opposite the old Baths - Was it the Jubilee?

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no pete the "Junction" played darts fer em once.;) john smiths house.

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they shut the Star and pulled it down
when they altered all the road around there
i lived on grange st at the time

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They must have built those flats opposite the Pop club shortly after, those flats were there when move onto Nelson Street in 1974

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Was the Woodnook at the end of Marsden St? Carter St runs off Willows Lane down to Charter St I think.

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I remember the Junction .... good pint .... played a lot of darts there ... I can't remember the name of the landlord, but I did have the hots for his daughter .... I think he took over the New Brewery pub, another John Smith's house, tho' I can't remember exactly where it was :confused: ....

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New it began with a J:I was only 5 at the time

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I remember that the number 1 bus from Clayton to Ossy left from the Forts Arms and stopped at the Black Dog in Ossy .... it seems that every bus stop was by a pub ... altho' I can't remember them all (The Load of Mischief stands out) ... of course, I never thought I would have to.

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that was on Maudsley street always called in yon to have a drink wi Mrs Power, top lady Vinnies missus.;) Barry (Baz) the mod, his dad had it fer a while back then.

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That's a little young to be going into the pub:eek: I waited until I was about 14 before I went into the Prince of Wales, put down my two bob, and, in my best deep voice, ordered a pint of mild:alright: Soon found out that I preferred bitter, tho'. Thwaites' bitter, I still miss it ... altho' I suspect it has changed for the worse, like me:dancedog:

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Did anyone ever try to do the pub crawl from the Black Dog down to the Church Commercial .... tried it several times (only arrested once) and never made it .... Buddy of mine, Sid Wright, said that it could be done if one only had a half pint in each pub .... maybe, but god didn't make half days.

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yep did it, but from commercial up but never included church con, only twice did the full distance i think. was never arrested on it, though the "Lion" house,think it was the horseshoe, just a few yards up from "Prince Of Wales" george the landlord did chase me down union rd wi a bayonet.:D

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Planned to do that pub crawl on my fortieth, think I made it to the Foxhill(if that is the one they painted yellow) before I needed a bit of sleep. Went to my mates had a couple of hours then carried on. We must be barmy!!

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ah well bernie many of the pubs were long gone last year.;)

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Go on you smoothie you:)

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And every half hour that bus would go to the top of New Lane and turn round at the White Bull Eric:D

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Ya cashy it was Georg Osbaldeston (think thats how ya spell it) new his sons one was called Trevor can't remembe what the other was called, but one was a bad cripple, walked very badly, think he's no longer with us

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Do you come fom Ossy originally Eric?

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You are right George has been dead quite a few years now

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There's an E in George and an R in remember:hidewall: but you got Osbaldeston right I think.:D

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yep knew that ta, ozzy (trevor) used to tag along wi our crew down the rovers occasionally.;)

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Whats an E and an R amungst friends Benipete:D but its this flaming lap top doesn't always print when I hit the key:(

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No .... but my gran was from Ossy, her maiden name was Webster .... and my great uncle Matthew lived there ... used to hang out with a couple of guys from up Ossy way ... on most sundays we used to play 3 card brag at a buddy's place up by the Black Dog .... Donald Vaughn .... and then we would have a few pints in the Dog before staggering off in the general direction of Accrington:theband: .... ubi sunt;)

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I knew the 3 Vaughn brothers - Edward (my age - same class at primary school), David (later owned the big toy shop on Church St Accy) - Donald - vaguely remember him.
Anyone know what happened to Edward? Did hear years ago that he qualified as a doc.

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I think I remember that Edward was a doctor ... and that's the route Donald went too ... he did his university in London; their dad was a lawyer, I believe. Donald was in my year at Accy Grammar; so he must be in his early 60s now. Considering the amount we drank, and Donald was a sterling drinker, he probably specialized in diseases of the liver;)

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I knew Donald quite well Eric, he used to mate out with a guy called Billy Walmsley, who's mother had the hair dressers opposite the Town Hall, another chap called John Marsden, John went into the Marchant Navy, he now lives on Fairfield Street, and is a regular in Ossy Con. Brian MaCandrew was another of the crew. Billy Walmsley now lives in East Anglia, near Grea Yarmouth, He's a Dentist, that is if he hasn't retired now, they are all around my age 61 or 62

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There is a list of pubs in existance in 1898 on page7 of 'An accrington Mixture' which I edited & published in 1995. I don't recall where I got the information, but with the exception of the Pickup Arms, I believe the information as to locations is correct. It doesn't list clubs. Because I am not competetent on the computer, I cannot email copies, but a PM bearing your email and/or postal address will get you a copy, as it will force me to learn how to send pics. It doesn't incl;ude clubs, but I have detaails of the
clubs in existance in 1938. They boasted 7,000 members:-

King St WMC...Stephenson memorial WMC...Globe Bowling & Billiard...Accrington District Club...Burnley rd Subscription Bowling Green...Central conservative...Canine WMC...Spring Hill Bowling & WMC...Dyers' & Finishers' WMC...Poplar WMC...Central WMC...Old Band Club...Baxenden WMC...Sydney st WMC...Baxenden Conservative...Discharged & Demobilised Sailors' & Soldiers' Memorial Club...Willopw Mount WMC...Masonic Association...Grafton recretaion...Baxenden & District Golf...Amalgamated Engineering Union (A.E.U.) Club...Marlborough WMC...Huncoat WMC...Green Haworth WMC...Bold St...central Catholic...Accrington Transport & Social

I don't know where some of these were.

Can anyone tell me when Bash Con Club opened. Is it still going? Was the upstairs domestric quarters at one time?

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Does the Pioneer Working Men's Club not appear because it is in Church?
It still operates now when most others have closed

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Holy faeces .... you knew Wham ... and Johnny Marsden .... it is indeed a small world .... do the names Ray Barker, Sid Wright, Ian Wade ring a bell?

I've got dogs to walk, cats to feed, and grass to cut .... I'll PM you later if that's ok.;)

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John Marsden is my cousin.
His mum, my godmother Margaret, died recently.

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PS need to modify last post - he is my cousin 'once removed'
His grandmother and my grandmother were sisters.
He was an usher at my first wedding

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And the world gets even smaller:eek: If this goes on I will be able walk over there, or at least take a bus:D

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I've just PMd Eric about John, Margaret, he still goes in Ossy Con, infact he's on the committee, used to see him every week, but ain't been out much lately, have known John for over 50 years

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That's the reason. My list is for the borough only. Church had a different police and set of magistrates.

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Was Ray Barker a bookie if so I Knew him well?

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Gets any smaller Eric I will be disappearing up my own???:hidewall:

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That's Ray ... always a guy for the horses ... Ray, Sid and I used to hang around together .... Sid joined the Royal Marines, and the last I heard of Ray he was running a News Agents (somewhere on Blackburn Rd, I think) ... he was married and had twin girls ..... I was last in touch with him in the early 70s ... but lost contact ....

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With the world going to hell in a handbasket, that might be a good place to be;)

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Was he the one selling ice cream? :)

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Donald Vaughn, Billy Walmsley and Raymond Barker used to run their own chemistry lab in Billy's cellar using items recovered from various sources around Ossy. They were fairly successful building rockets until one blew up in Billy's face and burned off his eyebrows. Took them about a year to grow back in. Raymond went to work in a "Turf Accountants" on Union Street I think.
Donald lost his mother quite tragically when still at the grammar school. Raymond lost his dad in about the same time frame. Very sad. Was Ian Wade a Butcher?
I remember 3 card brag at Vaughn's as if it was yesterday.

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Ian Wade had the butchers shop at the corner of Park Road and Countess Street Accrington, can remember billy having the accident, I think his dad (Jack) band the experiments in he cerlar after that, Billy is a dentist, as a practise somewhere in East Anglia not far from Great Yarmouth, John Marsden used to go down there for a holiday each year and occasonally bill used to come this way and stayed with his brother, saw him a few years back in Ossy Con when he came in with John, before that hadn't seen him for years

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That's Ian ... It was his dad's butcher shop I believe ... he had an old black van, Austin I think, I can definately remember piling into that old jallopy. I remember when it was replaced by a new mini ... luxury. Ray left the bookies after he got married and had a newsagents (on Blackburn Rd, near the viaduct). His wife was ok., but on the only time I met her, she seemed like a real ball breaker. Enough rambling ..... ;)

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The Australian was so named because it was built in 1846 by a returning penal colonist with rubble from an adjacent stone viaduct.

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The Australian pub was at the bottom of Castle street must have been open in the early sixties fell of a stool was so sozzled when the piano was going. It was famous for the
30s murder by Bronco Bill when the other guy came down from the Slater's arms which was at the top of Broadway where those benchs are now, I think the the other chap was called Joe something or other. Bronco was sentenced to hang but saved the life of a warder in Strangeways and was reprieved. Wuddy

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There's a photo of the Australian on page 86 of the book called 'Industry & Prudence; a plan for Accrington' It was taken from the railway viaduct c 1948. Put your nose close to the page and you can smell the river

Bronco was Bill Hodson. He killed Joe Hurley in 1934

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I thowt tha were supposed to be sumat of a historian, little Joe Hurley were killed in 1935.
Joe Hurley served in the East Lancs in WW1, and won the M.M.
Retlaw

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The Horseshoe "Thwaites House" was a good boozer back in day. First Landlord when i was goin yon was "Duggie" a dark chap who took oer the Mill Gap in Darren, Was a real good bloke went oer to see him a couple of times, After him Bob Sharples took it, another great bloke.:)

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The only landlord I can remember from the Horse Shoe Cashy was George Osbaldeston, he had two sons one was a cripple who sadly died very young

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Nah not that un, that was a lion house, talking the one on Crawshaw St in Accy centre which was a Thwaites.

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Sorry cashy, can't say I remember that one

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That's a fiver you owe me Walter. Because Hurley was dead, Hodson was charged with manslaughter in December 34. A few weeks later, in the new year, it was altered to murder.

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Ok Dobbo, so thas wun one, Im blaming my sister, fayther towd me my youngest sister were born when little Joe Hurley died, I alus thowt she were born in 1935, but when I looked it up she wur born in 1934.
Con a pay debt off at a shillin a week.
Retlaw.