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cmonstanley 06-01-2009 21:16

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still think its the cottages or the church in the town centre:confused:

Royboy39 06-01-2009 21:19

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 665820)
Try Plowthalge. Tudor Mansion.

The farm may also be referred to as Ponthalgh, Plowtalgh, Powtehalgh, and later Park Farm. This homestead is mainly associated with the Rishton family who occupied the homestead from the 15th to 17th century. The Rishtons finally left Ponthalgh for Preston, as a result of supporting the King during the English Civil War. In 1659 Ponthalgh was sold to the Walmesley's.

I lived at Park Farm in the 1950s.

panther 07-01-2009 13:09

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 665386)
Where is St James Church? Accy or Church Kirk.

Accy...He asked oldest building in accy so i told him:D

parts of which hail from the 16th Century!

Retlaw 07-01-2009 18:43

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 666823)
Accy...He asked oldest building in accy so i told him:D

parts of which hail from the 16th Century!

Sorry Panther, but St James Church is not 16th century.
There is a sign on the Cannon St side showing when it was built,
its wrong by two years, quite a lot of it was rebuilt during the 1800's, and the roof was lowered as well.

Retlaw.

panther 07-01-2009 18:46

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2 years:eek:!!

Well i was nearly right;)

K.S.H 07-01-2009 18:59

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 666923)
2 years:eek:!!

Well i was nearly right;)

Yeah by 2 centuries not 2 years :D

Retlaw 07-01-2009 21:04

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 666923)
2 years:eek:!!

Well i was nearly right;)

Eup Panther.
Mind if I give you a little lesson, 16th century means 1500's, not 1600's,
St James Church Accrington is 17th century.
St James Church, Church Kirk, is sometimes refered to as being the site of a Kirk since the 12th century, I doubt the present building is anywhere near that old. When I indexed the parish records for Church Kirk the 1st one was dated 6-4-1600.
When you look at the grave yard, and know how many people were buried there in the past 400 years, its a wonder the grave yard is not six feet higher than it is.
Retlaw.

Royboy39 07-01-2009 21:16

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 666632)
The farm may also be referred to as Ponthalgh, Plowtalgh, Powtehalgh, and later Park Farm. This homestead is mainly associated with the Rishton family who occupied the homestead from the 15th to 17th century. The Rishtons finally left Ponthalgh for Preston, as a result of supporting the King during the English Civil War. In 1659 Ponthalgh was sold to the Walmesley's.

I lived at Park Farm in the 1950s.

Why do you choose to ignore this Retlaw......Have I offended you?

Retlaw 07-01-2009 21:25

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 666999)
Why do you choose to ignore this Retlaw......Have I offended you?

Not in the slightest, but the question was "oldest building in Accrington", which I answered, High Riley Cottages Sandy Lane, Accrington.

Don't know much about the history of Church or Rishton.

Retlaw.

walkinman221 07-04-2010 19:17

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High riley cottages numbers 3-7 were built in 1628 number 1 was a later addition approx 1800 ish

gavmrgav 17-04-2010 10:47

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Accrington was built around Oakhill Park. So I'm guessing maybe around that area.
But St. James Church in Accy has grave stones nearly 300 years old.

Retlaw 17-04-2010 14:03

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Originally Posted by gavmrgav (Post 807251)
Accrington was built around Oakhill Park. So I'm guessing maybe around that area.
But St. James Church in Accy has grave stones nearly 300 years old.

Accrington was built around Oakhill Park.
Eh, who told you that fairy tale.

Accrington before 1878 was two separate hamlets,
one was centered around the Bull Bridge area, with Union St being the main street. The other known as New Accrington was centered around where Church St, Cannon St, Oak St and Black Abbey St meet. The fact that they were called Old & New Accrington, has nothing to do with their ages.
Its related to copyhold rights.

I have a list somewhere of all the residents of both
hamlets in 1660.

Retlaw.

Taggy 17-04-2010 20:31

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 807302)
Accrington was built around Oakhill Park.
Eh, who told you that fairy tale.

Accrington before 1878 was two separate hamlets,
one was centered around the Bull Bridge area, with Union St being the main street. The other known as New Accrington was centered around where Church St, Cannon St, Oak St and Black Abbey St meet. The fact that they were called Old & New Accrington, has nothing to do with their ages.
Its related to copyhold rights.

I have a list somewhere of all the residents of both
hamlets in 1660.

Retlaw.

Wow...i'd love to see that Retlaw.....is there any chance that you could put the list on here?...would be very interesting to see those names!


Best Regards - Taggy

Retlaw 17-04-2010 21:41

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 807413)
Wow...i'd love to see that Retlaw.....is there any chance that you could put the list on here?...would be very interesting to see those names!


Best Regards - Taggy

I don't think its possible, all my work on Accrington's History, and the WW1 files are on another computer which runs under DOS 6 the files are in Wordstar 6, that computer has never been connected to the internet, and never will be.

The list of names runs to 28 A4 pages of
information.

And before you join the others who have critisised me for working in such an old system, I like WS6, I've never seen or used a wordprocessor that will maintain my files as I like them, and no dammed mouse either, fingers only, fonts, line spacing and other commands, on the page where you can see them, not in some scratty little box at the top, which you hope is the same font you started with.
There are 100's of us all over the world who still use WS6 or WS7.

Retlaw.

Taggy 18-04-2010 08:39

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 807438)
I don't think its possible, all my work on Accrington's History, and the WW1 files are on another computer which runs under DOS 6 the files are in Wordstar 6, that computer has never been connected to the internet, and never will be.

The list of names runs to 28 A4 pages of
information.

And before you join the others who have critisised me for working in such an old system, I like WS6, I've never seen or used a wordprocessor that will maintain my files as I like them, and no dammed mouse either, fingers only, fonts, line spacing and other commands, on the page where you can see them, not in some scratty little box at the top, which you hope is the same font you started with.
There are 100's of us all over the world who still use WS6 or WS7.

Retlaw.

Oh thats a shame Retlaw, i wouldn't dream of critisizing your system....i'm a chap who still prefers Pen and Ink, over emails!!

Best Regards - Taggy


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