Pitt Street
 

Hi,

Can anyone tell me what was once "Pitt Street" is now called - and when did they change it.

Ta

:)

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I think this has now simply been absorbed as part of "Eastgate" - the bit in front of Netto/CBS. I'm not sure Melbourne St offically exists now either. (That was the bit from Stanley St to Burnley Rd.)

Presumably the name was lost when Eastgate was created.

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Good Moring Willow,

Yes it was in accy, but I don't know how long ago it changed....could have donkeys year. But it was there in 1901....

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oops lol I edited my post but you must have had the original before you when you replied. I found it on an old map and realised it was a continuation of Melbourne Street - joining up with Abbey Street. It is part of what is now known as Eastgate.

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Thanks Willow....

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You're welcome :)

Personally I think it's a great shame we lost Elephant Street. There was some urban myth/local folk tale attached to that about a circus elephant (died there?). People didn't believe me that there ever was an Elephant Street until I showed it to them on an old census.

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Was it a Trunk Road??

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:lol:

I think it was round the back of New Jerusalem church somewhere but I'm not sure exactly where. I believe it was there in the 60s so not sure what happened to it.

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There are some piccy's of Elephant street in the Accy Photo's section, but you'll have to search far back..they went on about Oct/Nov last year, I think.

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Thanks Tealeaf. I'll go and have a dig.

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Found it! (Elephant Street I mean) Small Street to be named after such a large animal. It seems that it has now been incorporated in the development at the bottom of Plantation Street. I was roughly in the right area anyway.

Elephant Street and Pitt Street
 

Here are a couple of photos showing Elephant Street, one taken looking up from Plantation Street and one taken looking down from, believe, Birtwistle Street (this street is still there. If you were about to call into the garage on Abbey Street, near the Swan Pub,
(coming from town centre) as you indicate you will see an electricity "box" which seems to completely block your view when trying to get in and out of the garage. This is the beginning of Birtwistle Street, leading up to Cobham Road.
It is supposed to be perfectly true about the street being named after an elephant. One of the Victorian travelling circuses was in town, when an elephant named "Chimey" died and so they named the street after it. This is also the street where there was a pub called The Welcome Inn, where George Formby's wife lived as a girl with her parents.

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Forgot to say, the photos are compliments of Owd Bert and date from 1966

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Funny, that is'nt it.............1966 - the year we won the world cup and I notice that Morris Oxford car is'nt flying the English Flag. Of course, we did'nt have to in those days...

But as regards Pitt street....any idea's on why it's so called? (as per Doug's original question)

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Thanks Atarah. It looks like Elephant Street was in the region of this red star. The part of Eastgate between the two arrows was Pitt St.


Now how do I attach a photo in here?

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I don't think the flags were as easy come by in those days wwere they Tealeaf?

I wonwder if it could have been named Pitt Street due to there being several pits in this area?

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You're quite right, Whispy...English flags were relatively difficult to obtain in 1966; but Union flags were aplenty. Have a look at the pictures of the Wembley Crowd at the final..it's practically all Union flags flying.

I don't think Pitt Street is named after it's proximity to various pits; as Kipax would no doubt notice, one has one "p", the other has 2 "p"s.

My own theory is that Pitt street runs further on from Melbourne Street...and William Pitt & Lord Melbourne were both Whig Prime Ministers of the late 18th/early 19th century......

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That sounds logical. Funnily enough I had always thought of Melbourne St in connection with Australia. :rolleyz8:

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Sound logic there Tealeaf.....Many streets were named after great politicians in those days. Funny how you don't find a street named after Tony Blair, although I've heard of a proposed Billy Liar Street somewhere in Wakefield!!

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Pitt - prime minister??????

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1757-61, 1766-68

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That was just Pitt the Elder; I was referring to Pitt the Younger, Prime Minister in 1793 at the ripe old age of 24.

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map attached of Pitt St and Elephant St

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K.S.H

Thank you very much this is great, Cheers to everyone else for the help, good stuff. thank you

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Looking at that map reminded me that my mother used to work at "Park Shed" as she called it. I wonder why they called it that?

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Hi,

Thanks again K.S.H.

Willow you were right with your first shot. Looking a moden AtoZ Pitt Street Lies directly under Eastgate. But, just take a look and see how thing have change since 1901....

Job done.

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I love looking at these old maps where you can pick out the individual buildings etc. Just look at the little trees in Avenue Parade.

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Have you spotted the tram tacks down Abbey street.

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Oh yes :) and off up Burnley Rd and down Peel St and Little Blackburn Rd.

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If I've got this right - this should be a modern map of roughly the same area.

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Spot on Willow....Its pity Mr Beckham missed his.....lol

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Pitt Street was originally called John St, way back before your Great Great Granddads were born. there was also a Higher Pitt St which joined Birtwistle St. at the junction with Hargreaves St.
Now I'll set you one where was Pinch Belly Row.

Retlaw.

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No idea but I can't help wondering how on earth that one got its name.

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Is it something to do with Piggeries?

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Because if you lived there you were poor, you had to tighten your belt to keep your trousers up, hence Pinch Belly Row. Co-op Joiners building was further up the street on the left. Now where is it

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Was it in Huncoat?

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"Why was Park Shed" given that name. Guesssing, but its built on what was park land many years ago, belonging to Accrington House, the mansion that was in the area of top of Oswald Street/bottom of Bold Street.

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Why "shed" rather than "mill" though? Wasn't "mill" the normal terminology?

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The Thread originaly mentioned East Gate, now the main bottle neck throughj Accrington, where does Huncote (sic) figure into it.

Huncote is the original spelling see old documents in Halmote Court Rolls. Circa 1450.

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The thread may have started off asking about a street which is now part of Eastgate but you asked if we know where Pinch Belly Row was and I was asking if it's in Huncoat. I believe we were supposed to be guessing.

So was that in the Pitt St area too then?

Higher Pitt Street
 

Hi, here is a photo taken by Owd Bert a few years back, which will give people an idea of where Pitt Street and Higher Pitt Street was. If you look you can see Callums, the restaurant at the corner of Abbey and Black Abbey Street. I have a child hoodmemory of one section of Pitt Street, nearer to Barnes Street I believe, which has unusual shaped windows, I think they were "pointed" lintels or something.

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Hi Atarah,

Whats the place next to Callums.....

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I remember some houses in Accrington with pointed lintels. Were/are they off Blackburn Rd somewhere near Sacred Heart which is now no longer there? Are the houses still there?

Nice photo of Pitt St Atarah. I must take a look at your website.

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Nice piccy from Owd Bert, Atarah. Accrington in it's prime!!

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I love looking at these old photos and comparing them to today. It's easier with some than with others.

Pitt Street and houses with pointed lintels
 

Ha! Knew I had a photo somewhere showing the pointed lintels. I imagine this block would have been facing approx. where Netto now is. Not too sure though. Noticed the tiny, tiny, house?

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Apparently this small Pitt Street house was built inbetween the old block and the newer block of cottages. Originally there was a dyke here that divided the lands of the Peels and the Lee-Warners.

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Excellent. This is more than I could have hoped for Atarah. Great family connection with Pitt St and now I can see it. Excellent Stuff.......

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Yes. About 50 yards South.

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I havn't been on for ages and so have missed quite a lot of stuff! I must say though, i've found this Thread to be very interesting, this is what this site is all about don't ya think!!!! plus loads of other stuff too!!!! anyway, I remember there used to be houses , under the viaduct, where the roundabout is now, on top of the wall there to the left as you come down from what used to be the clock garage. It's been so long since I lived there I don't remember the names of these streets, but there was also an off licience at the top there wher it joined KNowlmere street. anyway I wondered if anyone remembers what year these where pulled down?

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Littlemo.......Who are you.....how long is it since you left. are you a James????

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The off licence is still there.

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when you ask am I a James, do you mean is that my surname?


Nah afraid not, as the name refers, it's Little! I left in '86 but have quite clear memories of the layout of some areas as I remember how they where and not what the'v become. I remember all the rows of houses across from Asda before that was built. There was a little corner shop in there that my dad used to take me too to get 1/4 salted peanuts! thing is I don't remember the names of these places!!!

Pitt Street
 

Hiya LittleMo, will try and find a few photo to jog your memory.

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Could anyone please tell me where exactly Elephant street was. . . .where would it have stood, if it was there now ?

Re: Pitt Street
 

Willie - this thread is about Pitt St. You should have started a new thread, It might have been useful for you to have clicked onto Search on the top line and typed Elephant St in to see if there is a thread for it, or if it had been mentioned in other threads. However, likely that you didn't know about Search. It ran between Birtwistle St & Plantation St. As I live away, I am not certain what is there now. Have a search for the 'Street Names' thread and it should tell you about the elephant after which the street is named.

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An old map here if you`re interested.

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environ...cc/acceast.jpg

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But Lee Street is still there, so if you stand at the end of it, and look across, that's where Elephant Street would have been.

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And here is Elephant Street for you

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It really as for williheckaslike :-)

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