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glasgow guy 19-04-2009 21:12

allotments: who has one? and how long did you wait for it?
 
I am presuming that getting an allotment is rather difficult?

I would love to have my own one where I could grow all my own fare and have some poultry..
does anyone on here have one and as the title says , how long did you have to wait for it?
and can you buy the actual plot/bit of land outright?
and whats the price of them?
and if anyone who still has one that they no longer use and would be willing to let me rent from them then let me know..

thanks

flashy 19-04-2009 21:14

Re: allotments: who has one? and how long did you wait for it?
 
ask pipinfort, he has one


they have some just off Arthur street in Clayton, they belong to the church on there, you could always try having a word with the priest/vicar

glasgow guy 19-04-2009 21:17

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 706039)
ask pipinfort, he has one


they have some just off Arthur street in Clayton, they belong to the church on there, you could always try having a word with the priest/vicar

wheres arthur street in clayton ?

flashy 19-04-2009 21:19

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stand at the door of the co-op and look diagonally to your left and its the street facing you...or failing that, its the street accross from the co-op lol

MargaretR 19-04-2009 21:20

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look for info here
Allotments - Allotments in Hyndburn
not all sites allow livestock

flashy 19-04-2009 21:21

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the ones in Clayton have a few chickens on them

emamum 19-04-2009 21:21

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would you have a better chance if you offered to take an overgrown one that would need alot of work?

glasgow guy 19-04-2009 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 706044)
stand at the door of the co-op and look diagonally to your left and its the street facing you...or failing that, its the street accross from the co-op lol

:D dont laugh, given I am not born and bred from this part of the world I dont know alot of places...that and I am a top ender..:D
but thanks as I now know where your talking about !

glasgow guy 19-04-2009 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emamum (Post 706048)
would you have a better chance if you offered to take an overgrown one that would need alot of work?

now that was an initial thought of mine..theoretically it should.. I guess?? but you dont know how councils work sometimes..:rolleyes:

BERNADETTE 19-04-2009 21:25

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There is normally a waiting list for allotments, good luck in getting one there is nothing better than growing your own veg and the like.

Neil 19-04-2009 21:59

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There is a big waiting list in most of Hyndburn as far as I am aware. They are looking at splitting up larger ones and reclaiming unused/overgrown ones from the tenants in an attempt to reduce the waiting lists.

There are over 120 people on the waiting list for allotments in Oswaldtwistle - that gives you an idea of how much in demand they are.

BERNADETTE 19-04-2009 22:03

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I think splitting them is a good idea, a lot of them are far to large for one person to keep up with. Ian had one over Church but his mate used half of it

cherokee 19-04-2009 23:20

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We had to wait 4 years for ours (and we are in blackpool lol bit too far to trael )
But seriously I think no matter where you are there will be a waiting list.
The last one we had just down the road didnt have as long a waiting list as this one we have now so we got that in a couple of week s
What im trying to say is that I think it all depends on the area really. they have some in Ossy heys lane way but I think thay have a fair waiting list.
As for buying them I doubt it . The councils and government are trying to push them (healthy eating and all) thay=t they are become ever popular.
Good luck GG thay are an assett to any family I think these days .

garinda 19-04-2009 23:25

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I read about this the other week.

Trowels out everyone and dig for victory - Times Online

Hopefully it might mean waiting times for allotments are cut.

entwisi 20-04-2009 04:59

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Hyndburn Council are teh biggest bunch of incompetants going in this space.

I waited 3 years for one in Bash, got one all overgrown/derelict etc. Spent a year getting it looking half decent with Spuds, Onions etc ( nothing too fancy to start with). then had a bike accident and broke my back so was not going to be able to go up for a while. After 1 month of not going I had a letter saying I wasn't using it and it would be reclaimed from me as there was a huge waiting list ( despite there being about a dozen others in derelict state). 3 years later it still hadn't been touched.......

Muppets teh lot of em

Neil 20-04-2009 05:31

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Ian, do you have a lease agreement for the allotment? If so does it say they will take it back if you don't use it.

pipinfort 20-04-2009 13:35

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I`ve got one up in Huncoat, i got on the list as they were about to build some new ones and got it in about 3 months which talking to other plot holders is very unusual, i just got in at the right time, my mate was on the list for the ones in Ossy and he was waiting for the next person to die before he`d ever get one....:rolleyes: so he stuck his name on the list for Huncoat and it took 2 months!!!!! as far as i know they are now all taken up there but the council have started a `use it or loose it` scheme which is run in partnership with the prospects foundation where all the plots are given ratings and if its not touched you are given notice of about a month to get it sorted or you loose it........i know notice was going to be served on a few up at Huncoat. all i would say is pick your area and stick your name on the list........

entwisi 20-04-2009 14:22

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We did have a form but TBH back then I was more concerned with teh agony I was in and being able to put my own socks on again than whether I could eb arsed to fight HBC.

The woman that used to run them has a rather unusual name that escapes me ATM

pipinfort 20-04-2009 15:08

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Its a chap called Kieth Sudders who runs them at the moment

Lilly 20-04-2009 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 706239)

The woman that used to run them has a rather unusual name that escapes me ATM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 706247)
Its a chap called Kieth Sudders who runs them at the moment

Yes, that is an unusual name for a woman LOL :D

flashy 20-04-2009 16:59

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Took these for you today GG, they are allotments along the canal at the side of Norden school in Rishton .....doesnt look like much is going on, on them....maybe they are empty

MargaretR 20-04-2009 17:25

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They are the type that allows chickens and ducks - some ducks on one of them.
Don't be misled by ramshackle buildings - they will be in use - I live next to Heys alottments and ALL the buildings are like that.

Gravedigger1411 04-05-2009 10:30

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Hi, we have been on the waiting list for an allotment for a year and are currently 47th on the heys and 23rd on the white ash. Not expecting any joy any time soon. We have registered with landshare but the nearest plots so far are in the Burnley area. It might be worth checking out

Landshare

accyman 05-05-2009 03:17

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lol the way it looks is that you shoudl just about get an allotment just in time to be burried in it :D

entwisi 05-05-2009 14:14

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there are also loads in Baxenden that aren't being used.

geta load of pictures and go in to see them and ask about specific plots. If you make enough of a nuisance of yourself they may just 'find' one to get you off their back :D

pipinfort 05-05-2009 17:49

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There are a few up Huncoat that i know have`nt been touched since last September but allegedly belong to someone...............:rolleyes:

emamum 05-05-2009 18:24

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theres one at the bottom of my garden that no one looks after... all the bloomin kids go through my garden to get to it :(

donna123 07-05-2011 14:44

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iv just got one in huncoat, havent been to see it as yet, was only on the waiting list for about 6 months

heth 07-05-2011 14:50

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Get yourself in there Donna, you will love it when you see everything growing! :D
What you gonna plant any idea's yet?

Sledden3 15-08-2011 11:39

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Hi all if you are an allotment tenant at the Huncoat site we have set up a tenants association to improve things and make the most of our community. If you would like to be a member simply visit the website Home - Huncoat Allotments and download an application by clicking on our logo on the membership page. Alternatively visit Huncoat Allotment Association on Facebook and request an application form on the Facebook page. We are looking forward to meeting you soon!

dusty mears 16-08-2011 18:00

Re: allotments: who has one? and how long did you wait for it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glasgow guy (Post 706037)
I am presuming that getting an allotment is rather difficult?

I would love to have my own one where I could grow all my own fare and have some poultry..
does anyone on here have one and as the title says , how long did you have to wait for it?
and can you buy the actual plot/bit of land outright?
and whats the price of them?
and if anyone who still has one that they no longer use and would be willing to let me rent from them then let me know..

thanks

Allotments are in short supply in Clayton. Clayton prospects panel are trying to acquire a piece of land on Barnes St with a view to turn into allotment site. but slow progress at moment - funding needed etc. but should move along once funding aquired.
Word of warning with some of the newer council run sites (meadoway & Heys lane), the council were proposing increasing rents by a massive amount. dont quote me but eg is from £25 up to £200. making them unafordable for alot of holders.
The HBC allotment person is female - name's gone - leanne possibly ?
if you dont get any joy with the suggestions on here, you could consider contacting ian hodgson, prospects foundation. he's the community food growing co-ordinator and has lots of contacts. he's on leave at moment though. tel 01254 380244, email: [email protected]. fantastic guy & as mad as a bag of frogs

Neil 18-08-2011 06:21

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He is madder than that :D

I guess that £25 up to £200 is not per week

MargaretR 18-08-2011 09:11

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If our council wants to pay more than just lip service to 'going green', they had better not raise allotment rents. They maintain allotment tracks, but otherwise there aren't great costs involved in providing them. Raising rents just discourages people from making the effort to cultivate.

Growing you own food is supposed to be good for the planet and provides better nutrition than the veg that is shipped long distances.

£200 per year = £2.85 per week
At that cost, people will say that it will be cheaper to buy supermarket veg.

Have Tesco complained to the council that veg sales are less than the national average in these parts?:rolleyes:

Retlaw 18-08-2011 15:49

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 927518)
If our council wants to pay more than just lip service to 'going green', they had better not raise allotment rents. They maintain allotment tracks, but otherwise there aren't great costs involved in providing them. Raising rents just discourages people from making the effort to cultivate.

Growing you own food is supposed to be good for the planet and provides better nutrition than the veg that is shipped long distances.

£200 per year = £2.85 per week
At that cost, people will say that it will be cheaper to buy supermarket veg.

Have Tesco complained to the council that veg sales are less than the national average in these parts?:rolleyes:

Even 100 quid is a bit much for a piece of land, that would otherwise be lying fallow, Once it becomes allotment land, what do the council actually do, but look on it as another cash cow.
Retlaw.

mobertol 18-08-2011 15:58

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There used to be some lovely allotments in Clayton between St.Mary's church and school -we used to see all the chaps working on them when we came out of school in the afternoon (1970's). I wonder -are they still there?

cashman 18-08-2011 16:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dusty mears (Post 927107)
Allotments are in short supply in Clayton. Clayton prospects panel are trying to acquire a piece of land on Barnes St with a view to turn into allotment site. but slow progress at moment - funding needed etc. but should move along once funding aquired.
Word of warning with some of the newer council run sites (meadoway & Heys lane), the council were proposing increasing rents by a massive amount. dont quote me but eg is from £25 up to £200. making them unafordable for alot of holders.
The HBC allotment person is female - name's gone - leanne possibly ?
if you dont get any joy with the suggestions on here, you could consider contacting ian hodgson, prospects foundation. he's the community food growing co-ordinator and has lots of contacts. he's on leave at moment though. tel 01254 380244, email: [email protected]. fantastic guy & as mad as a bag of frogs

That in my view is one of the daftest increases i have heard of, i just cannot concieve a P.B.less council would approve such n increase, surely not.:eek:

Neil 18-08-2011 20:15

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Hyndburn has problems with allotments. There is a massive waiting list and not enough allotments. Many are not used and at such a small amount of money people appear to pay each year in case they decide to use it.

How much do you pay a year to rent a garage? Mucher small than an allotment.

Anyone know what it costs the council to administer the allotments? If more money is being charged hopefully they will be able to provide more allotments and improve the access roads/paths to them. I know HBC have been going a lot of work on some of the allotments recently.

cashman 18-08-2011 20:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 927636)
Hyndburn has problems with allotments. There is a massive waiting list and not enough allotments. Many are not used and at such a small amount of money people appear to pay each year in case they decide to use it.

How much do you pay a year to rent a garage? Mucher small than an allotment.

Anyone know what it costs the council to administer the allotments? If more money is being charged hopefully they will be able to provide more allotments and improve the access roads/paths to them. I know HBC have been going a lot of work on some of the allotments recently.

have no objection to n increase in the rents, but from a commonsense or fair perspective the percentage increase proposed is scandulous more so in these times, anyone unable to see that principle is either a tory or dim.:rolleyes:

Neil 18-08-2011 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 927638)
have no objection to n increase in the rents, but from a commonsense or fair perspective the percentage increase proposed is scandulous more so in these times, anyone unable to see that principle is either a tory or dim.:rolleyes:

I agree the percentage is very high but I think allotments have been ignored and neglected for so long they were almost forgotten about until they became popular recently and the waiting lists grew.

The last administration started sorting things out and that work needs carrying on by the new administration.

Allotments should not cost the Council money.

cashman 18-08-2011 21:28

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The fact the last administration let this go on fer so long n then as yeh say started sorting things out, they still had done sod all about things rentalwise?:rolleyes: what does that tell yeh?:rolleyes: agree it must be addressed, but not in the way mentioned, or who will be seen as the bad guys? dont take mastermind to figure that out.

Neil 18-08-2011 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 927653)
The fact the last administration let this go on fer so long n then as yeh say started sorting things out, they still had done sod all about things rentalwise?:rolleyes: what does that tell yeh?:rolleyes: agree it must be addressed, but not in the way mentioned, or who will be seen as the bad guys? dont take mastermind to figure that out.

Typical damned if you do damned if you dont comment :rolleyes:

The waiting lists became big so the Council looked into it and put a plan into action. These things don't happen overnight or the new lot would have fixed Hyndburn by now :D

cashman 18-08-2011 21:44

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these things would not be happening at all if the last admin had not ignored it fer donkeys years, "FACT";)

Neil 18-08-2011 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 927656)
these things would not be happening at all if the last admin had not ignored it fer donkeys years, "FACT";)

Whatever the reason no longer matters because Hyndburn has been saved from the evil Tories by the unable to do wrong Labour party.

Praise be to the Lord for sending the reds to save us :rolleyes::D

cashman 18-08-2011 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 927657)
Whatever the reason no longer matters because Hyndburn has been saved from the evil Tories by the unable to do wrong Labour party.

Praise be to the Lord for sending the reds to save us :rolleyes::D

everyone does wrong, another fact,;) the reds do have n advantage though by not having n obnoxious get at the helm.;)


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