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elwoodsusanm 20-06-2009 17:06
Pennine Reach
 
Does anyone know where I can view a map of the proposed Pennine Reach bus lanes please?:)

jaysay 21-06-2009 09:35
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Try PennineReach

elwoodsusanm 21-06-2009 10:05
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Thank you, I have that information but would like to see a map of the route that the Pennine Reach is going to take, and wondered where one was available.:)

Bernard Dawson 21-06-2009 11:40
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Try the Lancashire County Council website. The route should be on there. You could also try Hyndburn Council's website.

More likely to be on the County website, as the pennine reach is a County project.

katex 21-06-2009 11:56
Re: Pennine Reach
 
They've all been taken off Bernard after the public consulatation, try this Elwood :-

http://www.transportforlancashire.co...eReachA2v4.pdf

Takes time to download, but does eventually.

elwoodsusanm 21-06-2009 12:03
Re: Pennine Reach
 
:thankya:Just what I was looking for :)
Sue

katex 21-06-2009 12:08
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Actually, if you go into this thread and the link put up by Panther, can still get all the leaflets and information:-

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ach-40070.html

garinda 23-05-2010 22:53
Re: Pennine Reach
 
'A CONTROVERSIAL £50million bus lane scheme to link Blackburn, Darwen and Hyndburn could be axed by the new government.'
Blackburn, Darwen and Hyndburn bus lane funding maybe axed (From Lancashire Telegraph)


Good.

cashman 23-05-2010 23:06
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817095)
'A CONTROVERSIAL £50million bus lane scheme to link Blackburn, Darwen and Hyndburn could be axed by the new government.'
Blackburn, Darwen and Hyndburn bus lane funding maybe axed (From Lancashire Telegraph)


Good.
Twas a dumb idea to begin with IMHO. n if thats cut will be pretty painless.

Bernard Dawson 23-05-2010 23:21
Re: Pennine Reach
 
I know not everyone was a supporter of the Pennine Reach project, but part of it was the bus station. If the bus route is scrapped, I really do hope that doesn't mean that we won't be getting a new bus station.

garinda 23-05-2010 23:26
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 817099)
I know not everyone was a supporter of the Pennine Reach project, but part of it was the bus station. If the bus route is scrapped, I really do hope that doesn't mean that we won't be getting a new bus station.
Yes I remember.

Accept this dictat, and you'll have the sweetner of a bung, to build a new bus station.

Pennine Reach was a daft idea, and would have harmed businesses along the route, and moving the bus station nearer to the railway station, and further away from the town centre, would have been another nail in the coffin of Accrington's independent retailers.

Best thing going, if it's scrapped.

garinda 23-05-2010 23:30
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Town planning in Accrington doesn't exactly fill you with confidence.

You only have to look at the appalling state of our once thriving market, after it had been moved around, to see that.

Some people should really only be allowed Lego to play with.

cashman 23-05-2010 23:32
Re: Pennine Reach
 
to be perfectly honest bernard i know no-one that has a business on that route, that "WAS" in favour of it,:confused:

Bernard Dawson 23-05-2010 23:46
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817102)
to be perfectly honest bernard i know no-one that has a business on that route, that "WAS" in favour of it,:confused:
I'm not particularly arguing the case for the bus route, I know there are problems with it,and a lot of people are opposed to it. But we do need in my view a new bus station.

There's an argument to be had, as to where a new bus station should be sighted.But I have long held the belief that a new bus station is essential.

cashman 24-05-2010 00:02
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Don't dispute the existing bus station is crap, think a bus station needs to be pretty central in accy, where there is room fer it though is summat else, n fer my money, needs to be a seperate issue from this "pennine reach"?

lancsdave 24-05-2010 06:15
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Will Tesco sue Hyndburn council if the new bus station is scrapped. I'm sure one of the sweeteners will have been to make sure the public are dropped off as near to the store as possible. :rolleyes:

The whole scheme was stupid, yet to find anybody who agreed with it but councillors were still prepared to go ahead with it. We are situated at the Blackburn bus stop, the buses seem to get through okay without spending 50 million.

Leave the bus station where it is :D

Neil 24-05-2010 12:20
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 817103)
But I have long held the belief that a new bus station is essential.
Why is it?

shillelagh 24-05-2010 12:23
Re: Pennine Reach
 
another question for bernard ... why should accrington have a new bus station when its not that old .. especially when you compare it to Rawtenstalls bus station ..

MargaretR 24-05-2010 13:37
Re: Pennine Reach
 
I recall that decision to resite the bus station was made soon after a lady was killed crossing it.
Whether the two are connected, I am unsure, but maybe.

cashman 24-05-2010 13:46
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 817205)
I recall that decision to resite the bus station was made soon after a lady was killed crossing it.
Whether the two are connected, I am unsure, but maybe.
ya may be right? remember that incident, if it was -think its better to step back n think, as things like that do raise emotions.

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2010 20:21
Re: Pennine Reach
 
I hope that the Pennine Reach is ditched along with the plans to site a new bus station where the Train staion is.
This will be a death knell to the town centre as it is.......a bus station there, is too far out of the town centre.......will cause problems for the old and infirm and mothers with prams.
As for the bus station being moved because of a freak accident......I think if that had any bearing at all on the decision, then it is a knee jerk reaction and badly thought out.

katex 24-05-2010 21:03
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 817348)
along with the plans to site a new bus station where the Train staion is.
This will be a death knell to the town centre as it is.......a bus station there, is too far out of the town centre.......will cause problems for the old and infirm and mothers with prams.
As for the bus station being moved because of a freak accident......I think if that had any bearing at all on the decision, then it is a knee jerk reaction and badly thought out.
The plans were for Crawshaw Street, which was the perfect location.

Not going to express my opinion again on this .. have said enough before.:mad:

It is sad that it has been ditched .. a new bus station was very much needed and would have been state of the art.Would have given outsiders a greater impression and encourage visits to our town.

Peel Street has never been a bus station, just bus stops causing congestion and danger. It buggers up the plan to replace it with a square which would have been extremely beneficial and more pleasing to the eye/useful than what is there now, encouraging visitors to our town. What's to bet you will all be whinging about it in the not too distant future.

No, the accident was not the cause .. just coincidental.

I am exasperated and upset ... http://planetsmilies.net/sad-smiley-8171.gif

lancsdave 24-05-2010 21:44
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817379)
It is sad that it has been ditched .. a new bus station was very much needed and would have been state of the art.Would have given outsiders a greater impression and encourage visits to our town.

I would have thought there are major parts of Accrington that need money spending on them before spending money on a state of the art bus station just to give a good impression. The town centre itself is so spread out I can't figure out how anyone can decide which is the best place for a new bus station.

Out of curiosity what is 'state of the art' ? A roof and electronic timetables ?

cashman 24-05-2010 21:44
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817379)

I am exasperated and upset ... http://planetsmilies.net/sad-smiley-8171.gif
Why? cos apart from councillors yer on yer own?:D

Bernard Dawson 24-05-2010 22:59
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817379)
The plans were for Crawshaw Street, which was the perfect location.

Not going to express my opinion again on this .. have said enough before.:mad:

It is sad that it has been ditched .. a new bus station was very much needed and would have been state of the art.Would have given outsiders a greater impression and encourage visits to our town.

Peel Street has never been a bus station, just bus stops causing congestion and danger. It buggers up the plan to replace it with a square which would have been extremely beneficial and more pleasing to the eye/useful than what is there now, encouraging visitors to our town. What's to bet you will all be whinging about it in the not too distant future.

No, the accident was not the cause .. just coincidental.

I am exasperated and upset ... http://planetsmilies.net/sad-smiley-8171.gif
I think you're right, Peel St has never been a purpose built bus station. It's just a street that happened to have bus stops on it.

I also think it is dangerous.My view is that this stems partly from the fact that Peel St was never really designed as a proper bus station.

Moving the bus station also opens up as you say the possibility of developing Peel St.

It may well now come to nothing if we don't get the funding. And yet had the Council been more decisive when the plans were first put forward, the funding could have already been in place.

BERNADETTE 24-05-2010 23:35
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Peel Street was never a bus station before our old market was destroyed and as far as I'm concerned it still isn't. But to move the bus "stops" further out of town would certainly see off the rest of the local traders IMHO.
How about being sensible for a change??? Instead of building (or trying to) a bus lane why not get double yellows on all major bus routes?? Believe it or not there are lots of us who do use buses. It ain't rocket science on how to get traffic moving IMHO.

Bernard Dawson 24-05-2010 23:52
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 817434)
Peel Street was never a bus station before our old market was destroyed and as far as I'm concerned it still isn't. But to move the bus "stops" further out of town would certainly see off the rest of the local traders IMHO.
How about being sensible for a change??? Instead of building (or trying to) a bus lane why not get double yellows on all major bus routes?? Believe it or not there are lots of us who do use buses. It ain't rocket science on how to get traffic moving IMHO.
I'd be surprised if any of it happens now Bernie. Personally I'd be more disappointed if we don't get a new bus station. The new bus route I could live without.

garinda 24-05-2010 23:58
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 817434)
Peel Street was never a bus station before our old market was destroyed and as far as I'm concerned it still isn't. But to move the bus "stops" further out of town would certainly see off the rest of the local traders IMHO.
How about being sensible for a change??? Instead of building (or trying to) a bus lane why not get double yellows on all major bus routes?? Believe it or not there are lots of us who do use buses. It ain't rocket science on how to get traffic moving IMHO.
A better use of money, and which would certainly speed traffic congestion, would be to have a traffic warden permenantly on duty on a certain stretch of Blackburn Road.

Let's face it, Accrington town centre developed before the omnibuses appeared. Though the bus station worked perfectly well in the sixties and seventies, with much more buses used then, in Peel Street, before the powers that be decided to move half the market back to where it used to be.

Result, half of a much reduced a market that was, and half a bus station that was.

Planning courtesy of morons.

garinda 25-05-2010 00:02
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 817444)
I'd be surprised if any of it happens now Bernie. Personally I'd be more disappointed if we don't get a new bus station. The new bus route I could live without.
So even though you 'could live without' the Pennine Route bus lanes. that would decimate hundreds of businesses along it's route, you'd have ignored that, because you'd have recieved a pot of dosh for a shiny new bus station?

garinda 25-05-2010 00:04
Re: Pennine Reach
 
I honestly think we're living with the results of a post-war generation of children, who are now in positions of power, and who didn't have enough toy cars and/or doll's houses to play with when they were kids.

cashman 25-05-2010 00:05
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Problem i can see with Double yellows on major bus routes is wi deliveries to local businesses, i encountered this stupidity when i lived n delivered in Blackpool, Traffic Wardens take no Prisoners.!

garinda 25-05-2010 00:09
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817451)
Problem i can see with Double yellows on major bus routes is wi deliveries to local businesses, i encountered this stupidity when i lived n delivered in Blackpool, Traffic Wardens take no Prisoners.!

...and all the side streets are already chock-a-block with parked cars now.

God only knows what it would be like if all the current parking spaces along the route are taken away.

Bus routes work perfectly well in cities, where there is room to have four lanes of traffic, and designated bus lanes.

There is not room on roads that were built when we had horses and carts.

Bernard Dawson 25-05-2010 00:09
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817449)
So even though you 'could live without' the Pennine Route bus lanes. that would decimate hundreds of businesses along it's route, you'd have ignored that, because you'd have recieved a pot of dosh for a shiny new bus station?
I along with others argued that the two should never have been been linked.I don't make the decisions.

garinda 25-05-2010 00:12
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 817454)
I along with others argued that the two should never have been been linked.I don't make the decisions.
But they were linked.

Accept the Pennine Reach, and receive funding for a new bus station.

I presume, for your posts, you accepted that as an offer?

Neil 25-05-2010 00:15
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817455)
But they were linked.

Accept the Pennine Reach, and receive funding for a new bus station.
Don't forget the other sweeteners. Car park in Ossy and the junctions in Clayton and Church sorting out as well

cashman 25-05-2010 00:17
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817451)
Problem i can see with Double yellows on major bus routes is wi deliveries to local businesses, i encountered this stupidity when i lived n delivered in Blackpool, Traffic Wardens take no Prisoners.!
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817452)
...and all the side streets are already chock-a-block with parked cars now.

God only knows what it would be like if all the current parking spaces along the route are taken away.

Bus routes work perfectly well in cities, where there is room to have four lanes of traffic, and designated bus lanes.

There is not room on roads that were built when we had horses and carts.
What the hells that got to do wi what i said?:confused:

garinda 25-05-2010 00:21
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817460)
What the hells that got to do wi what i said?:confused:

Er...nothing, other than I was clearly agreeing with you, because there'll be no parking along the entire route, and then adding a few more thoughts afterwards.

:rolleyes:

katex 25-05-2010 00:22
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 817405)
I would have thought there are major parts of Accrington that need money spending on them before spending money on a state of the art bus station just to give a good impression. The town centre itself is so spread out I can't figure out how anyone can decide which is the best place for a new bus station.

Out of curiosity what is 'state of the art' ? A roof and electronic timetables ?
Yes, part of it .. including toilets, good turning circles and decent access, with a little bit more room for those carbon emissions to escape.

You are only against it because you fear it will take trade away from your own business.

Of course, someone can always say "well, this needs doing and that needs doing" .. just this is the area of transport and not other areas.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817406)
Why? cos apart from councillors yer on yer own?:D
As for you ... :p Sure I am not on my own with this one .. just the moaners that usually have their say on web sites: not always the supporters.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 817434)
Peel Street was never a bus station before our old market was destroyed and as far as I'm concerned it still isn't. But to move the bus "stops" further out of town would certainly see off the rest of the local traders IMHO.
How about being sensible for a change??? Instead of building (or trying to) a bus lane why not get double yellows on all major bus routes?? Believe it or not there are lots of us who do use buses. It ain't rocket science on how to get traffic moving IMHO.
Further out of town !! Crawshaw Street is hardly that Bernie.. would have been about 100 metres to the Arndale .. can't get nearer than that.

Double yellow lines ?? Well ... that is the main objection, that nobody will have been able to park on this bus route. At least provisions were being made for parking in other areas. Mainly for private parking, by the way.

Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817447)
A better use of money, and which would certainly speed traffic congestion, would be to have a traffic warden permenantly on duty on a certain stretch of Blackburn Road.
I know we go on about Blackburn Road Garinda. To be honest, I have never been held up once on this stretch due to congestion. :confused:

Well, I am sure you will all be smugly smiling by the cuts today by our coalition government ... 5% off Transport Departmental budget .. so that will stop us in our tracks of looking forward to happy motoring and improved public transport.:rolleyes:

cashman 25-05-2010 00:23
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817462)
Er...nothing, other than I was clearly agreeing with you, because there'll be no parking along the entire route, and then adding a few more thoughts afterwards.

:rolleyes:
twas those added thoughts that threw me.:rolleyes:

garinda 25-05-2010 00:23
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 817458)
Don't forget the other sweeteners. Car park in Ossy and the junctions in Clayton and Church sorting out as well
Strange, how those two words are so very often linked.

Bribery and corruption.

Neil 25-05-2010 00:25
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817466)
Strange, how those two words are so very often linked.

Bribery and corruption.

I did not mention either of those words

cashman 25-05-2010 00:28
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817464)
Yes, part of it .. including toilets, good turning circles and decent access, with a little bit more room for those carbon emissions to escape.

You are only against it because you fear it will take trade away from your own business.

Of course, someone can always say "well, this needs doing and that needs doing" .. just this is the area of transport and not other areas.



As for you ... :p Sure I am not on my own with this one .. just the moaners that usually have their say on web sites: not always the supporters.



Further out of town !! Crawshaw Street is hardly that Bernie.. would have been about 100 metres to the Arndale .. can't get nearer than that.

Double yellow lines ?? Well ... that is the main objection, that nobody will have been able to park on this bus route. At least provisions were being made for parking in other areas. Mainly for private parking, by the way.



I know we go on about Blackburn Road Garinda. To be honest, I have never been held up once on this stretch due to congestion. :confused:

Well, I am sure you will all be smugly smiling by the cuts today by our coalition government ... 5% off Transport Departmental budget .. so that will stop us in our tracks of looking forward to happy motoring and improved public transport.:rolleyes:
what a load of cack, if ya never been held up on blackburn rd is either porkies or ya dont use it regular at certain times.:rolleyes: am sure no-one will be smiling smugly at ANY cuts, yer either boiled or losing it.:rolleyes:

garinda 25-05-2010 00:28
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817464)
I know we go on about Blackburn Road Garinda. To be honest, I have never been held up once on this stretch due to congestion.
Well if I'm fit I drive, I go into Accrington that way, on Tuesdays and Saturdays, to shop, and for the last six years I've been back there has always been cars parked their illegally. Every single journey.

Not a lie, as I don't see the point in those, or an exageration, but factual truth.

garinda 25-05-2010 00:31
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817469)
Well if I'm fit I drive, I go into Accrington that way, on Tuesdays and Saturdays, to shop, and for the last six years I've been back there has always been cars parked their illegally. Every single journey.

Not a lie, as I don't see the point in those, or an exageration, but factual truth.
...and that does cause traffic congestion, because on some parts there's parking on one side, and then there's illeagally marked cars outside the shops, leaving just room, on our Victorian designed roads, for only one vehicle to drive through, and that includes buses.

garinda 25-05-2010 00:36
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 817467)
I did not mention either of those words
No I did.

After you mentioned other examples of 'sweeteners'.

Quite an apt choice of word really.

If you're good little children, and do exactly what I want, I'll reward you with some nice sweeties.

Didn't we used to have public information films, warning us to be wary of people offering us sweets in exchange for 'doing things'?

katex 25-05-2010 00:59
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817468)
what a load of cack, if ya never been held up on blackburn rd is either porkies or ya dont use it regular at certain times.:rolleyes: am sure no-one will be smiling smugly at ANY cuts, yer either boiled or losing it.:rolleyes:
Blackburn Road would have been the key area for a massive change in this route and our best chance of solving this problem for good. Now, we are just reliant on the traffic wardens to sort out the bad parkers unless other restrictions are implemented and strictly monitored.

I said smugly due to some folks seemed pleased that the scheme has been dropped, including the bus station.

garinda 25-05-2010 01:16
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817479)
Blackburn Road would have been the key area for a massive change in this route and our best chance of solving this problem for good. Now, we are just reliant on the traffic wardens to sort out the bad parkers unless other restrictions are implemented and strictly monitored.

I said smugly due to some folks seemed pleased that the scheme has been dropped, including the bus station.
For the sake of the economic future of the many businesses along the route, I'll be thrilled if the scheme doesn't materialise.

On the stretch of Blackburn Road I'm referring to, there are already double yellow lines, as there would be along the entire Pennine Reach, but these are ignored, by the drivers who constantly park there to do there shopping, and by the wardens, who apparently see this as a no go area, and prefer to stay busily issuing tickets in the town centre.

It's not sour grapes, by the way, I've never had a parking ticket.

Just a frustrated observation from my twice weekly visit, driving that way into Accy.

Neil 25-05-2010 01:26
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817479)
Now, we are just reliant on the traffic wardens to sort out the bad parkers unless other restrictions are implemented and strictly monitored.
That is what traffic wardens are for.

garinda 25-05-2010 01:30
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 817486)
That is what traffic wardens are for.
Perhaps they should be offered a 'sweetener', to target areas which have constant breaches of parking offences.

:rolleyes::D

lancsdave 25-05-2010 06:02
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817464)
You are only against it because you fear it will take trade away from your own business.
Seems a perfectly valid reason to me ;)

cashman 25-05-2010 08:39
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 817504)
Seems a perfectly valid reason to me ;)
Not valid at all...........to a bus lane Zealot.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 25-05-2010 09:57
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817451)
Problem i can see with Double yellows on major bus routes is wi deliveries to local businesses, i encountered this stupidity when i lived n delivered in Blackpool, Traffic Wardens take no Prisoners.!
Thats why they have a yellow band round their hats cashy, so no one will park on them:D

jaysay 25-05-2010 10:00
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817488)
Perhaps they should be offered a 'sweetener', to target areas which have constant breaches of parking offences.

:rolleyes::D
Ya reght Garinda, and be labeled racists, come on, because we all know that's what would happen and why the stupid parking is already allowed to go on :mad:

cashman 25-05-2010 10:06
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 817563)
Ya reght Garinda, and be labeled racists, come on, because we all know that's what would happen and why the stupid parking is already allowed to go on :mad:
yeh altered that just in time.:D

Margaret Pilkington 25-05-2010 10:53
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Well, Kate...I don't feel smug about the decision to shelve this plan.
While I agree that Peel Street is not an ideal bus station....and I don't think it was ever 'planned'....it just sort of evolved.
I am pleased that the bus station isn't going to be where the train station is......that would be a fair old uphill hoik for many folk who use buses on a regular basis.......and would be another move away from the current town centre....which would be detrimental to trade.....well, other than perhaps Tesco's....... who don't need our money.

I do agree that Accrington needs some radical changes to make it glorious again...but in the current financial climate I think that this is unlikely to happen........the planners will continue to tinker around the edges....which never ever provides any real benefits.

katex 25-05-2010 11:03
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 817504)
Seems a perfectly valid reason to me ;)
Ya' always make me laugh Dave ... at least you are honest about it, which I think some people may not be ... no names mentioned of course. :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817567)
yeh altered that just in time.:D
Too late ... saw it ... :D

To be honest, was never 100% in favour of the Pennine Reach although there were going to be some good benefits attached to it. Just very disappointed about the bus station basically and the new square.. :(

Still, only says 'may' be axed .. nothing definite as yet.

Unfortunately, people in the transport section are being made redundant this very morning and other schemes are under scrutiny like the High Speed Rail and Crossrail under review.

lancsdave 25-05-2010 12:20
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817604)
Unfortunately, people in the transport section are being made redundant this very morning and other schemes are under scrutiny like the High Speed Rail and Crossrail under review.

Thats a shame, High Speed rail link and move the train station to Peel St would have been a great idea :D

cashman 25-05-2010 12:27
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817604)
Ya' always make me laugh Dave ... at least you are honest about it, which I think some people may not be ... no names mentioned of course. :D



Too late ... saw it ... :D
good lass:D

Unfortunately, people in the transport section are being made redundant this very morning and other schemes are under scrutiny like the High Speed Rail and Crossrail under review.
redundant!!! that was a question they wouldn't answer when announcing the cuts.:rolleyes:

jaysay 25-05-2010 15:10
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817567)
yeh altered that just in time.:D
Quick of the mark me cashy:D nearly got my Maurice mixed up with my Doris again:rolleyes:

jaysay 25-05-2010 15:12
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 817604)



Too late ... saw it ... :D
Trouble is your a fast cat kate:D

garinda 25-05-2010 17:42
Re: Pennine Reach
 
If there is the odd fifty million pounds, of tax payer's money, hanging about in the spare change coffers at County Hall, and they really did want to speed up traffic flow, and cut the bus journey times, they could always employ 125 bus conductors, pay them £20,000.00 per annum say, for the next twenty years.

Hey presto!

The cost of £50 million is the same as the Pennine Reach scheme.

125 local people are in employment, for the next two decades.

Traffic isn't held up, as it is now on pay as you enter. Anyone who's seen the bus arrive at Rhyddings School at home time, with the bus parked, taking fares for between 5-15 minutes, with no one able to pass, and the traffic stretching back to Church traffic lights, will vouch for this.

More people might be tempted onto the buses, if they feel safer having a conductor on board. Someone who's able to shout at rowdy passengers, and tell louts to get their feet off the seats, and help those who need assistance getting on, or alighting the bus, etc.

Finally, the best benefit of all, is the economy wouldn't be damaged, by the loss of trade no parking along the entire Pennine Reach route would inevitably bring about.

Margaret Pilkington 25-05-2010 17:45
Re: Pennine Reach
 
that is a good idea. Simple too.

Margaret Pilkington 25-05-2010 17:49
Re: Pennine Reach
 
The economy would be helped, because those people who got jobs as conductors would be paying tax, insurance, and would spend their money on goods and services locally.

garinda 25-05-2010 18:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 817702)
that is a good idea. Simple too.
Shouldn't that read 'that is a good idea. Simpleton'?

:p

Margaret Pilkington 25-05-2010 20:15
Re: Pennine Reach
 
No, I meant what I posted.
It seems that the simple solutions(and often they are cheapest) are the one which are discarded.
G....I would never ever describe you as a Simpleton.
You have a very analytical mind and incisive wit.:)

Gayle 25-05-2010 21:58
Re: Pennine Reach
 
From my perspective, and I admit it's a purely selfish one, the Pennine Reach project would benefit the Arts Centre because the car park next to the Civic is linked into the Pennine Reach project. Without the Pennine Reach project, there'd be no car park.

I do appreciate everyone's arguments about the whole scheme but like i said, on a purely selfish basis I would want it to go ahead.

garinda 25-05-2010 22:47
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 817893)
From my perspective, and I admit it's a purely selfish one, the Pennine Reach project would benefit the Arts Centre because the car park next to the Civic is linked into the Pennine Reach project. Without the Pennine Reach project, there'd be no car park.

I do appreciate everyone's arguments about the whole scheme but like i said, on a purely selfish basis I would want it to go ahead.
You could be groomed now.

Knowing that you'll go and 'see some puppies', all for the promise of a bag of sweets.

:D

cashman 25-05-2010 22:59
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817911)
You could be groomed now.

Knowing that you'll go and 'see some puppies', all for the promise of a bag of sweets.

:D
well that sorta thing seems to be reaching epidemic levels with hyndburn starting it!:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

garinda 25-05-2010 23:10
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817914)
well that sorta thing seems to be reaching epidemic levels with hyndburn starting it!:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:


Pets Win Prizes - UKGameshows

:rolleyes:

jaysay 26-05-2010 09:48
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817914)
well that sorta thing seems to be reaching epidemic levels with hyndburn starting it!:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:
Is that Hyndburn the Borough or hyndburn the Councillor Cashy:D

Gayle 26-05-2010 14:29
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 817911)
You could be groomed now.

Knowing that you'll go and 'see some puppies', all for the promise of a bag of sweets.

:D

:D I'll put my order in for some bon bons.

It's always a tricky situation when you can see clearly that everyone else would hate it but you know personally you're going to benefit. I suspect I'm in a majority and can't really comment on the scheme as a whole, but i don't think anyone could argue that it would ultimately be good for the Arts Centre to have the big car park.

garinda 27-05-2010 00:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 818063)
i don't think anyone could argue that it would ultimately be good for the Arts Centre to have the big car park.
Though of course it is handily served by two bus stops near by.

:D

cashman 27-05-2010 09:04
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 818063)
:D I'll put my order in for some bon bons.

It's always a tricky situation when you can see clearly that everyone else would hate it but you know personally you're going to benefit. I suspect I'm in a majority and can't really comment on the scheme as a whole, but i don't think anyone could argue that it would ultimately be good for the Arts Centre to have the big car park.
I suspect yer in a minority gayle?:confused::D

garinda 23-01-2011 19:15
Re: Pennine Reach
 
£40million Pennine Reach bus lane scheme 'officially dead'

Darwen bus lane scheme 'officially dead' (From Blackburn Citizen)

Good.

:)

Eric 24-01-2011 08:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818412)
I suspect yer in a minority gayle?:confused::D
Maybe not; I have a big car, and I think a "big car park" is a great idea.:D

Neil 24-01-2011 09:30
Re: Pennine Reach
 
I liked some parts of it but not others.

Its wrong that they added some improvements to the roads that we needed onto a daft bus scheme just to try and get it through.

We still need those improvements though.

garinda 24-01-2011 09:48
Re: Pennine Reach
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 877709)

We still need those improvements though.
Yes, with the numpties who come up with these ideas.

lancsdave 23-06-2011 14:44
Re: Pennine Reach
 
I see the Bus Station issue has been resurrected again in the Observer. Apparently the council are making it a prioirty and applying for funding again in September.
Peel St will become a short stay car park. Better start looking for new premises :)

ferret man 25-10-2017 19:46
Re: Pennine Reach
 
came up Whalley Rd today behind a Pilkington D/D bus from Gt Harwood when we came to that very expensive bit of road know as a BUS LANE, did the bus take advantage of this superb bit of tarmac engineering, Nope he did not, he missed a free opportunity to use a strip of road that will cost you or I about £60 for that pleasure. Just can't understand some people.


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