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cashman 21-09-2009 15:24
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as blackburn rd is again a sodding mess wi tempory lights/one way traffic etc, would it not be n idea to have some of the bus routes on Hyndburn Rd,?:confused:

BERNADETTE 21-09-2009 15:29
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Have they stopped the double parking Cashy? That might help a bit as well:)

cashman 21-09-2009 15:35
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 746792)
Have they stopped the double parking Cashy? That might help a bit as well:)
have they hell as like, thats another good thing about hyndburn rd, none of that.;)

BERNADETTE 21-09-2009 15:41
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 746795)
have they hell as like, thats another good thing about hyndburn rd, none of that.;)
Until they build the new mosque and open one of the side streets up again because of the increased traffic:rolleyes: Funny they couldn't open it to save fire brigade going all way round in emergencies:(

Bernard Dawson 21-09-2009 17:21
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I don't know why there digging Blackburn Rd up again, it's not that long ago of course that it was relayed. I would hope it's not something that could have been done then.

I honestly don't think the answer is to move some of the bus stops onto Hyndburn Rd. The solution in my view is to deal with the traffic problems on Blackburn Rd.

cashman 21-09-2009 20:27
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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 746829)
I don't know why there digging Blackburn Rd up again, it's not that long ago of course that it was relayed. I would hope it's not something that could have been done then.

I honestly don't think the answer is to move some of the bus stops onto Hyndburn Rd. The solution in my view is to deal with the traffic problems on Blackburn Rd.
that would be my first option bernard, but we all know its been horrendous fer years and the problem has never been properly addressed. Why?:(

Less 21-09-2009 20:51
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 746790)
as blackburn rd is again a sodding mess wi tempory lights/one way traffic etc, would it not be n idea to have some of the bus routes on Hyndburn Rd,?:confused:
I for one would love to see buses on Hyndburn Rd, (and actual bus stop's not those sticky out in the middle of the road traffic calming things as on B'Burn Rd), from where I live, (bottom of Monk Street), it takes me almost as long to walk to catch a bus as it does to walk down to the town centre, how on earth the pensioners around here get on I've no idea.

cashman 21-09-2009 21:00
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can i ask why ya dont feel re-routing some buses on Hyndburn Rd is the answer Bernard? loads of pensioners live bottom end of those streets as Less mentioned, its a long way to Blackburn Rd Bus stops, if yer bad on yer pins.:confused: that system would help alleviate more than 1 problem in my view.

claytonender 21-09-2009 21:36
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I don't know why Blackburn road is being dug up again - but it might be worth contacting the County Councillor for that area -Mohammed Younis, his details are on the LCC website -
http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/counci...lorDetails.asp
This gives his mobile number and LCC email address - if anyone wants his home number, please send me a private message.

Royboy39 21-09-2009 21:47
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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 746872)
I don't know why Blackburn road is being dug up again - but it might be worth contacting the County Councillor for that area -Mohammed Younis, his details are on the LCC website -
County Councillor Details
This gives his mobile number and LCC email address - if anyone wants his home number, please send me a private message.
Surely as representative for Church, thats your job and report to the questioner and the rest of the people you represent?

claytonender 21-09-2009 22:02
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 746874)
Surely as representative for Church, thats your job and report to the questioner and the rest of the people you represent?
Only if it is on the part of Blackburn Road that is within Church Ward. Highways are not the responsibility of Hyndburn Council, it is a LCC responsibility.
That is why I suggested contacting the County Councillor for Accrington West - the full length of Blackburn Road from the centre of Accrington to the railway bridge near Blythes is part of the area he represents.

hyndburn 21-09-2009 22:36
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It was a gas leak outside the bingo hall

Bernard Dawson 21-09-2009 23:04
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 746865)
can i ask why ya dont feel re-routing some buses on Hyndburn Rd is the answer Bernard? loads of pensioners live bottom end of those streets as Less mentioned, its a long way to Blackburn Rd Bus stops, if yer bad on yer pins.:confused: that system would help alleviate more than 1 problem in my view.
Maybe Cashy, there is an argument for siting some bus stops on Hyndburn Rd. And if it's better for people who live down the bottom of those streets off Blackburn Rd, than it's something the Council ought to look at.

The argument I was making previously was that it shouldn't been done just because of all the illegal parking on Blackburn Rd.

LYNX1 21-09-2009 23:14
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The argument I was making previously was that it shouldn't been done just because of all the illegal parking on Blackburn Rd.[/quote]


So we're back to the question about what to do about illegal parking..........Just a suggestion but why not prosecute the beggars instead of turning a blind eye?

Bernard Dawson 22-09-2009 09:04
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I agree with what you say. Illegal parking is illegal parking, wherever it might occur.

jaysay 22-09-2009 09:40
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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 746925)
I agree with what you say. Illegal parking is illegal parking, wherever it might occur.
Which is a problem for the police one would think, or do they turn a blind eye because of who is doing the illegal parking one has to wonder:rolleyes:

LYNX1 22-09-2009 09:43
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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 746925)
I agree with what you say. Illegal parking is illegal parking, wherever it might occur.
Like I've always said talks cheap and in Hyndburn we get a lot of talk and very little action..........only my opinion obviously

claytonender 22-09-2009 11:58
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I have emailed the pictures of the illegally parked cars to the police - if anyone has any more pictures please can they contact me and I will make sure the police receive a copy of the pictures.

steeljack 22-09-2009 16:03
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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 746969)
I have emailed the pictures of the illegally parked cars to the police - if anyone has any more pictures please can they contact me and I will make sure the police receive a copy of the pictures.
Unless you are hiring your local Police from St. Dunstans I would have thought the problem (illegal/obstructive parking) that people are complaining about should be obvious to anyone on foot/car patrol along the road in question. :confused: :confused:

katex 22-09-2009 17:49
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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 746969)
I have emailed the pictures of the illegally parked cars to the police - if anyone has any more pictures please can they contact me and I will make sure the police receive a copy of the pictures.
Think you may possibly get more results sending them to the new company at LCC responsible for this Claytonender i.e. Lancashire Parking Services. As you will be aware, they have just taken over from Parkwise, and will be keen to show how they can outdo their predecessors. They are responsible for these offences anyway, not the police.

Lancashire Parking Services - Welcome

Royboy39 22-09-2009 19:49
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 747055)
Think you may possibly get more results sending them to the new company at LCC responsible for this Claytonender i.e. Lancashire Parking Services. As you will be aware, they have just taken over from Parkwise, and will be keen to show how they can outdo their predecessors. They are responsible for these offences anyway, not the police.

Lancashire Parking Services - Welcome
Kate, you are far too knowledgeable to be a councillor and far too intellegent to be one. :)

claytonender 22-09-2009 21:48
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Royboy39 22-09-2009 22:27
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That is one hell of a response from a serving representative.
Facts and knowledge are the corner stone of local representation and if that is lacking the whole system goes tit's up.

MargaretR 22-09-2009 22:43
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..........
see - I agree with her;)

claytonender 22-09-2009 22:52
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 747143)
That is one hell of a response from a serving representative.
Facts and knowledge are the corner stone of local representation and if that is lacking the whole system goes tit's up.
So are you saying that I am ignorant of facts and knowledge?

jaysay 23-09-2009 08:57
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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 747148)
So are you saying that I am ignorant of facts and knowledge?
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :D

katex 23-09-2009 21:33
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Please gents .. don't use me as your political pawn. :rolleyes::p

LYNX1 24-09-2009 08:18
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Now now children.........play nice

jaysay 24-09-2009 09:43
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 747302)
Please gents .. don't use me as your political pawn. :rolleyes::p
Would we;)

katex 24-09-2009 16:55
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 747389)
Would we;)
Yes, yes ... I've been used ... USED I tell ya' !! Still nowt new as far as fellas are concerned, and now Claytonender will hate me forever ..... :D:D

claytonender 24-09-2009 19:01
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 747470)
Yes, yes ... I've been used ... USED I tell ya' !! Still nowt new as far as fellas are concerned, and now Claytonender will hate me forever ..... :D:D
How could I hate you Katex.:):):)

katex 24-09-2009 19:41
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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 747502)
How could I hate you Katex.:):):)
Extremely gracious of you Claytonender.

Now, back to the subject matter. I do not see a bus route on Hyndburn Road as being a viable option at all. My reasons are as follows :-

Access : Buses would have to divert down Henry Street/Dill Hall Lane to gain access to Hyndburn Road ... busy routes at the best of times.

Bus Stops: From the lights to the Fire Station ... no suitable off-loading points due to distance between lights .. and would block exits on many occasions for this Emergency Service. Fire station to end of Hyndburn Road roundabout, now double yellow lines, and why ? Because halting traffic would again interfere with flow of traffic on this gateway road.

Resident's access: How many resident's do have access to Hyndburn Road now ? ... a small handful (at the bottom of the streets on a few blocks) .. whereas on Blackburn Road ... population on either side.

Bus to Station on Peel Street: Would have to travel along Union Street .. gawd what a journey that would be, or along onto the ring road. Would improve though when we get the new bus station on Crawshaw Street. :D

Less's access to Railway: Further to walk from drop-off point over-riding his walk to pick-up point.

Need I go on ?? No, forget it in my opinion.

Bernard Dawson 24-09-2009 19:52
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 747516)
Extremely gracious of you Claytonender.

Now, back to the subject matter. I do not see a bus route on Hyndburn Road as being a viable option at all. My reasons are as follows :-

Access : Buses would have to divert down Henry Street/Dill Hall Lane to gain access to Hyndburn Road ... busy routes at the best of times.

Bus Stops: From the lights to the Fire Station ... no suitable off-loading points due to distance between lights .. and would block exits on many occasions for this Emergency Service. Fire station to end of Hyndburn Road roundabout, now double yellow lines, and why ? Because halting traffic would again interfere with flow of traffic on this gateway road.

Resident's access: How many resident's do have access to Hyndburn Road now ? ... a small handful (at the bottom of the streets on a few blocks) .. whereas on Blackburn Road ... population on either side.

Bus to Station on Peel Street: Would have to travel along Union Street .. gawd what a journey that would be, or along onto the ring road. Would improve though when we get the new bus station on Crawshaw Street. :D

Less's access to Railway: Further to walk from drop-off point over-riding his walk to pick-up point.

Need I go on ?? No, forget it in my opinion.
My initial thought about buses along Hyndburn Rd,was why not. But having thought about it, and also looked at Hyndburn Rd, there are problems as you say

cashman 24-09-2009 19:54
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used to be buses used it, went riding barn street dunno if thats still the case, anyway talking about some not all.:p theres people live both sides down that way mainly elderly, but still sod them.

BERNADETTE 24-09-2009 20:02
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 747519)
used to be buses used it, went riding barn street dunno if thats still the case, anyway talking about some not all.:p theres people live both sides down that way mainly elderly, but still sod them.
Your'e right cashman there used to be quite a good service round that area, now it seems that the powers that be think everyone has a car. Even the services that do run anywhere near a lot of older people stop at about half five in the evening and many have no Sunday services at all:(

Bernard Dawson 24-09-2009 20:20
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 747519)
used to be buses used it, went riding barn street dunno if thats still the case, anyway talking about some not all.:p theres people live both sides down that way mainly elderly, but still sod them.
I was trying to think what buses have used Hyndburn Rd in the past. I think the problem would be more the town centre side of Hyndburn Rd than the Church side.

Problems are there to be solved Cashy. And if there is a demand for buses to run along Hyndburn Rd, then the Bus companies should look at ways of meeting that demand.

BERNADETTE 24-09-2009 20:41
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Dill Hall bus used to run on Hyndburn Road

Bernard Dawson 24-09-2009 20:54
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 747542)
Dill Hall bus used to run on Hyndburn Road
I remember that now Bernie that's right. You would think if it could be done then,it could be done now.

cashman 24-09-2009 21:14
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 747542)
Dill Hall bus used to run on Hyndburn Road
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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 747543)
I remember that now Bernie that's right. You would think if it could be done then,it could be done now.
that was my thought, though like bernard could not remember which service used it ta bernie.:)

katex 24-09-2009 21:16
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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 747533)

Problems are there to be solved Cashy. And if there is a demand for buses to run along Hyndburn Rd, then the Bus companies should look at ways of meeting that demand.
Get real Bernard ... what demand could there possibly be ? 'Cept people visiting Asda of course .. :rolleyes: Still they will be all going to Tesco shortly, won't they ? (and we all know what bribing bullies they are).. which will increase the demand for a drop off point on Blackburn Road. Mind you, with the new bus station .... that'll solve it.

Haven't seen any movement on accepted planning for bus parking on Asda car park ... what happened to that then ??

We will be all slaves to the easiest bus routes to supermarkets soon.

Put yer hands up those who have a demand for a bus to run along Hyndburn Road as against Blackburn Road (Cashy 'n Less excluded) ... :D

Bernard Dawson 24-09-2009 21:49
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 747556)
Get real Bernard ... what demand could there possibly be ? 'Cept people visiting Asda of course .. :rolleyes: Still they will be all going to Tesco shortly, won't they ? (and we all know what bribing bullies they are).. which will increase the demand for a drop off point on Blackburn Road. Mind you, with the new bus station .... that'll solve it.

Haven't seen any movement on accepted planning for bus parking on Asda car park ... what happened to that then ??

We will be all slaves to the easiest bus routes to supermarkets soon.

Put yer hands up those who have a demand for a bus to run along Hyndburn Road as against Blackburn Road (Cashy 'n Less excluded) ... :D
I don't know what the demand would be Kate. Could be as you say just Asda. It's not an issue that I can remember being raised too often over the years.

The new bus station and tesco will change things as you say. Whether it's for the good,we shall see.

cashman 24-09-2009 21:58
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 7)

Put yer hands up those who have a demand for a bus to run along Hyndburn Road as against Blackburn Road (Cashy 'n Less excluded) ... :D
thats pathetic, never expected from you, do you actually know many people around buckingham grove? many elderly wouldn't know what a computer is like,:rolleyes: at least a study or summat to acess viabilty, of course that don't matter much to mobile owd farts like me, differance being i care.:p

katex 24-09-2009 22:11
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 747578)
thats pathetic, never expected from you, do you actually know many people around buckingham grove? many elderly wouldn't know what a computer is like,:rolleyes: at least a study or summat to acess viabilty, of course that don't matter much to mobile owd farts like me, differance being i care.:p
Was not meant to be a serious hand count Cashy .. metaphoric licence so to speak.

Please do not throw out a red herring and accuse me of not caring about the elderly (crumbs 66 meself !) .. played an unfair card there.

Can say that about all areas of a heavy population of the elderly or young mothers pushing babies, etc.

This is a serious issue of growing transport problems for all of us against increased traffic on the roads and not much voluntary pedestrian footfall, ie. nobody wishes to walk anymore.

cashman 24-09-2009 22:16
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most serious problem in my book these days is nobody gives a toss about elderly that struggle, metaphorically speaking of course.:p

jaysay 25-09-2009 10:27
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 747470)
Yes, yes ... I've been used ... USED I tell ya' !! Still nowt new as far as fellas are concerned, and now Claytonender will hate me forever ..... :D:D
I'm cut to the quick kate, not all fellas (as you put it) are the same, there are those of us that still treat the fair sex as ladeeeeeees,:D
And Joan's not like that she'll forgive you I'm sure:D


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