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Benipete 27-01-2010 13:30

Wheat Packs?
 
:confused:Physiotherapist has suggested I try them on my painful joints.Does anyone know the best place to obtain them? Please.:confused:

Margaret Pilkington 27-01-2010 13:37

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Home and Bargain usually have them(around £2.99)....and i think Ossy Mills have them, but a bit dearer.

cashman 27-01-2010 13:38

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try Holland @ Barretts in arndale pete, think they might.:)

MargaretR 27-01-2010 14:04

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I don't understand how the wheat factor is relevant to pain relief.
My reasoning is that it is no different than using a hot water bottle.

If you want serious pain relief without pills I suggest a liquid rubbed in the skin.
http://www.northstarnutritionals.com...thanol_X2.html

jaysay 27-01-2010 15:15

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I've been using one for months now Beni the one I'm using now cost 19 quid but it covers my back, shoulders and neck and it does work in conjunction with DF118s:D I got mine mail order

shillelagh 27-01-2010 15:20

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wheatbags are safer than a hot water bottle and actually keeps the heat longer .. i have 2 of them .. plus they normally have lavender in them ....

i think theyre better than a hot water bottle .. plus easier to heat up .. stick them in the microwave for a minute or two ..

i get mine from a shop in haslingden .. theyre cheaper ..

and the occupational therapist said they were better for my mum rather than a hot water bottle .. though mum was traditional .. and wouldnt use them!!!:D

Benipete 27-01-2010 15:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 782839)
I've been using one for months now Beni the one I'm using now cost 19 quid but it covers my back, shoulders and neck and it does work in conjunction with DF118s:D I got mine mail order

Mine will have to work in conjunction wit JavaScript 440's.:D:drunk:

MargaretR 27-01-2010 15:52

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I can see now why wheat - its just a better heat retention medium.

For several years I took distalgesics at often the maximum dose every day.
When they were withdrawn from NHS prescriptions, I was issued with that paracetemol codeine combo Solpadol, and became addicted. I decided to find a healthier way to relieve pain.
I last used them when I had dental abcesses about 2 years ago.
Now I don't even take a straight paracetamol and painful days are now fairly rare.
I think this pain reduction is due to detoxing.
My osteoarthritis(neck, shoulders, knees and feet) hasn't been cured. I still get pain some days but Soothanol X2 gives instant relief, without the risk of damage to my liver.

Mick 28-01-2010 06:19

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Anne got ours from Home & Bargain i was a bit sceptical about them until i did my back in and believe me peter they really work,just pop them in the microwave for a min or two.
they are much better than a hot water bottle as you can wrap them right round the area where they are needed

jaysay 28-01-2010 09:44

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 783064)
Anne got ours from Home & Bargain i was a bit sceptical about them until i did my back in and believe me peter they really work,just pop them in the microwave for a min or two.
they are much better than a hot water bottle as you can wrap them right round the area where they are needed

Don't try wrapping it round your head mick, when you have a hang over:D

Benipete 31-01-2010 09:01

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Thank you all for your help in this matter.I am now sorted out thanks to a special delivery by Shillelagh.

Once again thanks to all for your help and concern.

flashy 31-01-2010 09:15

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if anyone ever needs one of these they sell them at B & M for £1.99, noticed them the other day after reading this thread

mattylad 31-01-2010 10:42

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You don't risk scalding yourself with a wheat pack.

Pouring boiling water into a bottle can be dangerous, I'm surprised that I have lived for over 40+ years without serious harm doing this dangerous act :D :D

Less 31-01-2010 10:47

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Is a wheat pack standard NHS type medicine or is it the homoeopathic untested suck it and see, no quality control on the ingredients type medicine?

I've heard, though I haven't yet googled wiki for the truth that such things as lavender are added by some disreputable dealers to make them more addictive!

Neil 31-01-2010 12:12

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 783972)
if anyone ever needs one of these they sell them at B & M for £1.99, noticed them the other day after reading this thread

Home & Bargain have them at the same price as well. I got a couple for Rhonda the other day after reading this thread.

I laughed when the instructions say you can microwave them, heat them in and electric oven but not a gas oven.

Stanleymad 31-01-2010 12:49

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Got mine from B & M under 2 squid wouldn't be without mine :)
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Margaret Pilkington 31-01-2010 12:59

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I like mine too. I use mine on my neck sometimes......put it already warmed into the leg of an old pair of tights and tie it(loosely) around my neck to keep it in place.
and they are safer than hottie bottles, they disperse the heat more slowly too.

MargaretR 31-01-2010 13:09

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So several people here recommend wheat packs.

I cannot use one because I do not have (and do not want) a microwave oven, and my standard oven is gas.

Many years ago I did have a gel filled neck pack which required heating in a microwave - it did work (to lesser extent) for pain relief, than the Soothanol X2 I use now, but it exploded in the microwave ..... a slimy blue mess.

I got rid of my microwave 10 years ago.

Neil 31-01-2010 13:17

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 784040)
So several people here recommend wheat packs.

I cannot use one because I do not have (and do not want) a microwave oven, and my standard oven is gas.

Many years ago I did have a gel filled neck pack which required heating in a microwave - it did work (to lesser extent) for pain relief, than the Soothanol X2 I use now, but it exploded in the microwave ..... a slimy blue mess.

I got rid of my microwave 10 years ago.

I caused a heat pack teddy bear to burst in the microwave as well.

This might sound daft but do you think it would be safe to put a wheat pack in a roasting tin - the old enamel type with a lid - in a gas oven?

I think the only reason they say not to use gas oven is incase the flame touches the material part of the pack.

MargaretR 31-01-2010 13:22

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 784046)
I caused a heat pack teddy bear to burst in the microwave as well.

This might sound daft but do you think it would be safe to put a wheat pack in a roasting tin - the old enamel type with a lid - in a gas oven?

I think the only reason they say not to use gas oven is incase the flame touches the material part of the pack.

Maybe - but I don't intend to try that.
It could be that the small amount of moisture that a gas flame produces will be absorbed by the wheat and it would go mouldy.

Neil 31-01-2010 13:24

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 784048)
Maybe - but I don't intend to try that.
It could be that the small amount of moisture that a gas flame produces will be absorbed by the wheat and it would go mouldy.

When microwaving the instructions said to place a cup of water in the oven as well. I think it is to add moisture.

MargaretR 31-01-2010 13:35

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 784051)
When microwaving the instructions said to place a cup of water in the oven as well. I think it is to add moisture.

So your original reasoning (re potential fire risk) seems correct

shakermaker 31-01-2010 13:37

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 784040)
I got rid of my microwave 10 years ago.

What do you do when your brew goes cold? :eek::confused:

Margaret Pilkington 31-01-2010 13:38

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make a fresh one.

MargaretR 31-01-2010 13:42

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 784055)
What do you do when your brew goes cold? :eek::confused:

I said all I need to say about microwave ovens in the thread-
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ood-44964.html

Less 31-01-2010 14:01

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 784054)
So your original reasoning (re potential fire risk) seems correct

Or, it could just be that the water is to absorb any extra power not required so that it doesn't cause the magnetron to burn out by over-heating.(not so much a fire risk, more like a trip to asda to buy a new microwave, even those things are so cheap it isn't worth the effort of repairing them these days.

Gerbil In A Microwave

an oldie but a goody in that link!
:D

webglynne 31-01-2010 14:10

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There are dangers with wheat bags and heating them. There have been instances of fires caused by this and here at home we have charred one or two bags by overheating in the microwave.

I was in Superdrug when a man was buying one and being nosy I asked if there was any warning on the instructions, there was not.

Charring can occur when the wheat gets dry with constant use so at times I wet my hands when I handle ours. Our are now home made with wheat from Sherfin.

MargaretR 31-01-2010 14:20

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I would be interested to hear from anyone who has researched the neurological mechanics of how heat eases pain.

I ask because of my experience in a French hospital in 1980, when I was given an ice pack to relieve stomach cramps.

Pain is usually due to inflammation which generates its own heat, so the application of heat doesn't appear the logical thing to do.

I still prefer my Soothanol X2 which contains DMSO to enable the herbal ingredients to pass through skin direct to the source of the pain

Margaret Pilkington 01-02-2010 13:40

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Margaret, we used Kaolin Poutices at the hospital......and we used them for all kinds of things...on the medical wards we placed them on the base of the lungs of people who had pleurisy and pneumonia....and it was very comforting.
My understanding of the mode of action for such a practice is that applying heat brings the blood supply to that area......bringing the blood supply brings with it the fighting cells and the cells which clean up infection and inflammation.

it was not a good idea to apply this means of pain relief to any area which was bruised as it increased the bruising....that is when you would apply cold packs.

Heat applied to joints helps the muscles which surround the joint, to relax.......and this in turn makes the joint easier to move and reduces pain.

Now after years in the nursing profession, if there is anyone out there who knows anything different....I'm ready to have my education increased/improved.

Margaret Pilkington 01-02-2010 13:43

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My findings are not research based, just observations after years of practise.

emamum 01-02-2010 16:38

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i use one on my back, i leave it on the radiator, which i have on most of the time atm and its always ready if i need it :)

katex 01-02-2010 17:30

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I used one for the first time last week ... got these horrendous pains in the lower abdomen area. Everywhere I touched, it hurt ... :( 'Course went through all the worst scenarios (as you do). After an hour...nothing for it, but to try heat treatment ...hot water bottles always worked when I was in my teens with menstruation pains.

Led on bed, wheat pack on my tummy, within 10 minutes, pain subsided and completely disappeared, but not without loud gurgling noises from my bowels.:D As I suspected, was a bad case of wind, probably due to being on the computer too long that day in a tight pair of jeans.

I couldn't say it retained the heat any better than a bottle; but was more comfortable ... except the brushed cover was quite moist.

BERNADETTE 01-02-2010 17:47

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Moral to that story Kate is wear something comfy whilst on computer lol. We can't see you so get some comfy trousers:)

katex 01-02-2010 17:52

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 784380)
Moral to that story Kate is wear something comfy whilst on computer lol. We can't see you so get some comfy trousers:)

I know Bernie ... I never 'lern' do I ... :o

Benipete 02-02-2010 15:59

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Well I tried the Wheat Packs and in retrospect I think I should have used hot milk and put more sugar on them.:confused:

flashy 02-02-2010 16:03

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i bought some hand wheat packs today, they are great for my shoulders

Neil 02-02-2010 16:07

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 784588)
i bought some hand wheat packs today, they are great for my shoulders

Daft question - are they just small ones?

flashy 02-02-2010 16:08

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yeah, small square ones, they where only £1.29


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