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garinda 27-08-2010 21:06

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 840855)
I don't blame hime for saying that - looks like its open season on newbies yet again:rolleyes:

Yes, we've all been newbies on here.

Though some were sensible enough to test the water...before diving head first into the shallow end.

Time soon passes though.

It doesn't seem two minutes since everyone was on your newbie back, after complaining about threads wishing people a happy birthday, or well done in their exams.

Give 'em enough time, they soon learn...or get banned, and disappear back into the ether.

:rolleyes:

Neil 28-08-2010 10:45

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Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 840815)
MODS>....please delete this thread before it gets full of insults...I just asked for opinion and wanted to open a debate.

The thread does not need to be deleted but if any posts become insultive please report the posts using the red triangle http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ons/report.gif at the bottom left of the post under the posters name and the moderation team will deal with it appropriately.

SPUGGIE J 28-08-2010 10:57

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Depends on what age you would consider a mid teenager.

Any tax credits payed would be based on the information given and any wrong info pertaining to them that is wrong could be seen as fraud. Which to anyone in a prominent local role would be a tad silly esp as they are in the public eye.
I would ask if anyone has never taken advantage of rules that they can gain from even in a small way.

If the social services will/are/were involved then it is between them and the parent involved not based on their job.

I also reckon that many teenagers are more "grown up" than many of us were at the same age.

A neighbour could also be on hand to be sure nothing untoward happens in any case.

We deride single parents for not working yet do the same if they are therefore they cannot win.

jaysay 28-08-2010 14:24

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 841061)
Depends on what age you would consider a mid teenager.

Any tax credits payed would be based on the information given and any wrong info pertaining to them that is wrong could be seen as fraud. Which to anyone in a prominent local role would be a tad silly esp as they are in the public eye.
I would ask if anyone has never taken advantage of rules that they can gain from even in a small way.

If the social services will/are/were involved then it is between them and the parent involved not based on their job.

I also reckon that many teenagers are more "grown up" than many of us were at the same age.

A neighbour could also be on hand to be sure nothing untoward happens in any case.

We deride single parents for not working yet do the same if they are therefore they cannot win.

Although he never mentioned any names you can bet your bottom dollar he was referring to a Tory, otherwise he wouldn't have started the thread in the first place, that's the type of snide underhand person he seams to be judging from previous posts

Less 28-08-2010 14:58

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 841059)
The thread does not need to be deleted but if any posts become insultive please report the posts using the red triangle http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ons/report.gif at the bottom left of the post under the posters name and the moderation team will deal with it appropriately.

I did suggest similar in post #10

katex 28-08-2010 15:53

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I feel that whichever Councillor is claiming for child care, will have to be all above board, Simon, and hours, etc., accounted for.

I think similar to Spuggie that a child of 15/16 years is quite capable of coming home from school and looking after themselves until the parent arrives home from work. It is sometimes when they are absent in the evening/overnight or longer periods that you need to have someone around to see to their needs.

Perhaps this is where you may have misunderstood the claim ? We really don't know the extent, do we ?

Sorry, don't know anything about tax credits.

Neil 28-08-2010 21:39

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 841176)
I did suggest similar in post #10

I know you did and thank you for it.

Mine just looks more pretty with the little picture for those that don't know :)

cashman 28-08-2010 21:46

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 841351)
I know you did and thank you for it.

Mine just looks more pretty with the little picture for those that don't know :)

well yours will look pretty, yer a bonny begger.:D

garinda 28-08-2010 22:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 841150)
...that's the type of snide underhand person he seams to be judging from previous posts

Which isn't at all like labelling someone, who was dealing with the probate of their grandmother's estate, as Accrington's answer to Rachman.

:rolleyes:

Less 28-08-2010 22:25

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 841363)
Rachman.

:rolleyes:

Are they the people that sell ties at the airports?

garinda 28-08-2010 22:28

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 841365)
Are they the people that sell ties at the airports?

Yeah man.

:mosher:

accysimon 29-08-2010 10:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 840843)
Because snide people never do, they just like to stare it from from a place of anonymity

I'm not snide in anyway, so please don't accuse me of that. I am asking whether the local people approve of councillors, especially one in high office, claiming childcare allowance for a 15 year old, when she doesn't go to a childminder, she stays alone or with friends. It is similar to the MP expenses scandal in my opinion.

accysimon 29-08-2010 10:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 841150)
Although he never mentioned any names you can bet your bottom dollar he was referring to a Tory, otherwise he wouldn't have started the thread in the first place, that's the type of snide underhand person he seams to be judging from previous posts


Thanks, for the insult, it was uncalled for. I am trying to raise a serious point about taxpayers money, but you really don't seem to give a toss.

The teenager in question is 15, so I am told, so do they really need childcare?

garinda 29-08-2010 10:09

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Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 841439)
I'm not snide in anyway, so please don't accuse me of that. I am asking whether the local people approve of councillors, especially one in high office, claiming childcare allowance for a 15 year old, when she doesn't go to a childminder, she stays alone or with friends. It is similar to the MP expenses scandal in my opinion.

Snide I suppose, because you don't name them.

If rules aren't being broken, I see no problem.

If childcare allowances weren't available, it would limit who was able to become a councillor.

If I presume correctly, the councillor you allude to is a single parent.

Which must be a strain, when balancing home life, and public office.

accysimon 29-08-2010 10:14

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 841444)
Snide I suppose, because you don't name them.

If rules aren't being broken, I see no problem.

If childcare allowances weren't available, it would limit who was able to become a councillor.

If I presume correctly, the councillor you allude to is a single parent.

Which must be a strain, when balancing home life, and public office.


The debate is, in my opinion, should the expenses be claimed when the 15 yr old is staying with friends, not official childcare, or stays at home alone, as 15 yr olds often do.
Does it matter who the councillor is? He holds high office and already claims enough allowances.


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