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The Massey pub(at least I think it was a Massey pub) on the opposite corner to the Bridge pub(Church Street) in Accrington?
Only those who were out and about drinking in the sixties, will be able to scratch their heads and wrack their brains for this one....Come on Cashy and Jaysay...I'm relying on you.

This pub closed in the sixties and the day after it closed, the Astronaut opened in Union Street.

Karma for the answer.(and I don't know the answer, but I will trust you lot)

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Was that not the Bay Horse,Margaret, that we have talked about recently. Not sure about the Brewer...don't drink beer...LOL.

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I don't think so Kate.....I thought it was called The Crown........the girl whose parents had this pub went to school with me......Susan Denwood.

It was a very small pub...only one room....and in my recollection it was Accrington's little Crown, because the big Crown was near Joe Morts........well, that is unless my memory is failing and anyone out there knows different.
But thanks Kate.

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Think the Bay Horse may have not been operating then as a pub anyway.... although the buildings were still called Bay Horse buildings.
Don't remember one on the corner.
Haha... yes, if there were one, Cashy will know.

By the way, do you mean diagonally opposite or one of the other corners ?

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As I say, it was very small and easy to miss.

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There was a pub called the Crown Inn on Church Street according to the 1909 map.

The Bay Horse was facing the bottom of Warner Street.

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this request is not to satisfy my wonderings, but himself has been down to the bowling club and they were discussing it there.
Himself remembers the last night in there before it closed.......in those days one pub had to close before another one could open....and it closed so that the Astronaut could have a licence.
I don't know if it is the same today.....one pub closes before another one gets to open........more pubs are closing today than opening!

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Was it on the opposite corner to the Bridge pub Steve?

If it was, then you get the Karma.

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Unfortunately it doesn't show where on Church Street it was!
There's usually a P.H., Inn or Hotel at the location. It shows the Commercial, Bay Horse and Bridge but not The Crown but the name's on a list of "Beerhouses" printed on the back of the map.

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thanks Steve, much appreciated......perhaps the older drinkers on here will be able to throw some light on the subject. It probably was more of a beerhouse......it was only the size of a living room. Karma anyway.

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Thanks, Margaret!
There is a small building where Barnes Furniture is now - maybe too small to print in...?

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Looks about right. Steve... excellent.

Just looked at the licencing of beer houses for 1869. Crown Inn is listed ... was No. 32, which sounds about right ? A Martha Bentley was the applicant.

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Always known as The Little Crown.

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Couldn't have been known as the Little Crown, until the Big Crown was built though .... :D

Mind you,was another Crown Inn in 1869 ...listed as Dyke Nook. Not the one way up Whalley Road. Think an area near the Castle Pub was listed as this.

Was probably allowed though, because one was in New Accrington, the other in Old Accrington.

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I knew Accyweb would come up trumps...as usual.
Good stuff Kate...Karma to you too.....it will come up unsigned as the mouse just fell onto the enter key.:D
The mouse was a bit shaken, but alright now!

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That's what himself said.

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Was it the Junction next door to the Junction chippy, across the road from the swimming baths?

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Yes, that was a John Smiths house.
I had a big crush on (Neville) the son of the landlord....I was only 12 at the time, but thought he was very handsome...he(alas) never noticed me.

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Can anyone tell me what year the Astronaut pub opened? Another one for Cashy and crew.

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I think that's correct Anne. Though I had never been in,

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It was at 32 Church St, now you can put it on your maps.
Retlaw.

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Crown Hotel 124 Blackburn Rd.
Crown Inn Dyke Nook
& the little crown is in the other post, to late to add.
Retlaw

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Wasn't there a cinema next to the little Crown,the name Ritz comes to mind like the dance place.I remember queuing up to see a film there can't recall the name of the film but all teenagers went because Frankie Lane was in it singing That Old Black Magic in the film.

P.S. When you look back we were as daft as all teenagers through the years.

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Appen tha wur, bud aye ed nowt tu du wi them new fanguld singurs, alus thowt thurs bin no propur music writun this side o thu 1900's
A thowt wid dun alt cimenas on anuther thread.
Retlaw

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Think it was 63 or 64 Margaret, when I started serving my time with Townley's Joiners, the row in Union Street was the first job I worked on that was 62

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I always thought the little Crown was the one on Whalley Road that Stanley have taken over? Surely, there couldn't have been three Crown pubs in the town, all operating at the same time?

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No Steve, In Accrington, there was a little Crown(which was the one on the Ritz corner) and there was the big Crown...which was near Joe Morts dancing place(I'm talking early sixties here).
If we are talking about nowadays, then the little Crown is the one near the Stanley ground.

The little Crown in Accrington closed mid sixties and the licence was taken by the Astronaut pub in Union St.

Maybe you are too young to remember the little Crown in Church Street.
This pub we are talking about, was only the size of a terraced house and the licensed premises were just one room.

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Right, thanks, Margaret, you learn summat new everyday!

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I remember them as The Big Crown, The Little Crown, and The Crown Inn.

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Already told 'em that .....do concentrate Retlaw :p

Oh, and the one at Dyke Nook. Not the one near the Dyke Nook house up Whalley Road, 'cause is listed as Old Accrington. Further down near The Castle.

Know you know all this, just wanted you to confirm the Dyke Nook area for me ('cause I knew you wouldn't be able to resist this thread).

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Kate I grew up in that area near the Castle and I don't ever remember it being referred to as Dyke Nook, only the area further up Whalley Road near the house of that name. Couldn't the name Old Accrington have extended that far away from the centre of town?

Can't think of any other possible pubs between the Castle and Crown apart from Oaklea and Grey Horse today.

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Twas the Crown as i recall was just up past Barnes n before the Ritz cinema a very small Massey House, never actually had a drink in it as i was ejected whilst ordering me first.:eek:

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Thanks Cashy....I knew you would know...and my memory isn't so dusty....seeing as I remember it was a Massey house.

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How did you manage that, or is this yet another tale that can only be repeated in the Oaklea? ;)

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I was going to ask, but then, thought it might not be fit for telling.

Perhaps it was because he was under-age and they sussed him?

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Oh i used to find such things pretty easy, see yeh sat.:D;)

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So you aren't telling us then Cashy :D

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Can't wait to hear this one! :D

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Think Retlaw has put this one to bed.

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Indeed, Susie ... didn't think Old Accrington extended that far up, and could have sworn seen something marked as Dyke Nook further down, even though knew was an area further up. Know it surprised me at the time .... hmmm. maybe it was wrongly marked or summat. Retlaw will now tell me am losing my marbles, so will save him the trouble....LOL.

All the houses around the Crown were addressed as Dyke Nook seemingly and not Whalley Road as they are now.

Dyke Nook Lodge was not built until 1901.

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All this talk of Massey's has brought back the morbid fear of Massey's Mild beer, not one for the faint hearted, in fact it was so good they rarely sold it in Burnley pubs:D

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At least Retlaw and I were singing from the same hymn sheet on this occasion!

If I may be permitted a teeny correction :rolleyes: Dyke Nook Lodge dates from 1907 not 1901...

Dyke Nook Lodge - Accrington - Lancashire - England | British Listed Buildings

And I see from google Streetview that the nameplate on the gatepost says Dyke Nook not Dyke Nook Lodge!

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If my memory serves me correctly "The Littel Crown" was on the right hand side of Abbey St (coming from Little Blackburn Rd or Peel st) just past a Church Grounds (I think), it was also used for the young males to pluck up enough courage for them to dance with the young females at "The Ritz Dance Hall" which was next to it. The Ritz DanceHall was very popular when Frankie Laine was at his zenith, also the drummer of the resident band used to play a piece called "Skin Deep" which also was popular in the late 50's/early 60's.

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It wasn't Abbey St. It was Church St.....and yes, the Little Crown was next to the Ritz Dance Hall.

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When did the Ritz close Margaret, I started frequenting Accy on a Saturday night around 1962, but never went to this establishment or was it too formal for a young whipper snapper in them days:D

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I don't know John.
My auntie Phyllis used to frequent the place.......I can remember her getting 'done up to the nines' to go....spending most of Saturday in curlers and a headscarf.......lots of powder and perfume......red peepie toe high heels(they impressed me the most)....stiff starched net underskirts.......all this effort went into the night out at the Ritz.......I figured it must be quite a place to go......but never could dance so I never ever found out.
Maybe someone will be along in a minute to answer that thorny question John.

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Ya we'll have to wait for one of the oud fellas like Barrie to put us straight:Dsorry Barrie;)

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Anyway, In 1962.....I was only 15....and you couldn't have been much older John!

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Ya Margaret 16:D

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I can,t answer the the ?s about the Ritz but the hair in curlers brought the memories flooding back. We used to go down town on a Sat affy wi our hair in curlers an a headscarf on and have an oxo in the market.I also remember getting my 1st net underskirt a yellow one it got ripped to shreds in the Funhouse at Blackpool.

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Ya little rascal ya:Dfunhouse indeed:D:D

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Eeh aye many a happy hol Jay :D :D

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I bet under the north pier wasn't out of the question either:D:D:D

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Oooooh what you trying to say Jay I wasn,t that sort of girl.:eek::eek:

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :D

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the little crown pub was were funnies night club was,it was a massey house in the early 60,s then it shut down then dave miller bought it and changed it into funnies,for all the oldies,morts used to be next door,as did the old accy boxing cliub,the big crown pub is on whalley road near to asfc ground

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Wrong that was the Big Crown which was a Samuel Smiths house.;)

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One of the favourite water holes in the 60s cashy, used to take the latest flame in yon, what you drinking love, the milds good:D:D

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Send me a PM if you've changed.I don't want Cashy and them knowing.

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You cheeky bar steward:D Don't remember the pub but of course my roving stopped in '58 or thereabouts - besides I only frequented the better hostelries - Cattle Market, Australian etc:rolleyes:.
Did frequent North Pier quite often in my younger days - sort of hors d'ouvres before the passion wagon back to Accrington.
The Ritz was still going in 59/60 as was Bulloughs Club which was down the same entry, but turn right instead of left into the Ritz.
When did the Ritz cinema close?

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It seems like there are more questions than answers in this thread.
Still, it has stimulated the grey cells of a few of us

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My guess n thats all it is would be 62/63.:confused:

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I would agree with Cashman,my first daughter born August 60, occasional visits after then.

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I base me guess on the fact i saw The Cockleshell Heroes yon when i was early teens, n the Ritz wasn't open much longer after that.

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The closure is not recorded in the book A Hyndburn Chronology in 1960-63. It might be found in An Accrington Mixture, but I cannot find my copy.

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Barrie I've never work behind the bar in WMC:eek::eek::eek::D

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Seems a lot of places closed down after you'd visited cashy:D:D

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Cashy the "Angel of Doom"

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Na just Doom:D:Dhe's never been an angel:D

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Lol that made me chuckle.:D

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Yeh lost me wi that max,please enlighten.:confused:

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correct cashy,i always got them mixed up,good job theres only 1 crown now,do you remember the old australia pub on bull bridge at all.

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Yep Thwaites House wi n alsation,used to pop in from time to time, Was a mate of landlords son,

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Was that Gerald Moores you were mates with Cashy. Or was it before his old man had it. I am in Accy this weekend. do you still go in the Railway on Sat afternoon.

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Yeh mog, he was living down Church about 2 yrs ago, usually in Railway between 12-00 n 2-00, in the smoking lounge.:D;)

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The Crown inn (and it was a Massy’s house) is the correct answer. I used to go there regularly. As someone mentioned earlier, it was known as the “Little Crown” in order not to be confused with the other Crown Inn.
Cheers

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Almost 3 years between the last two postings. Is this a record ?

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Have a look at the 1st Barbers thread in the Old Accrington section below.

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I'm not sure about any records being set, but the answer is very simple. After searchimg through the hundred or so pages (still going through them),I stumbled across this one!

Cheers

Philip Kenyon
Late Belfield Rd.
Now in Switzerland