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Yesterdays elections
Does anyone know who got in in Barnfield Ward?
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According to HBC twitter, Tony Dobson held his seat. Some Labour gains elsewhere and apparently a bit of agro at the count :rolleyes:
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Accrington Observer | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk
Looks like labour gained four |
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Seems like having party politics at the local level does have the advantage of revealing the mood of the voters. I don't know if I'm correct, but I see them acting in the same way that the US mid term elections do ... as a comment on how well the ruling party (current administration) is doing. I was bored last nite, and a little stoned; so I followed the elections on the "Guardian" web site. Some things I found significant, foremost among them the size of the vote for the UKIP, even tho' it didn't translate into many seats. This seems to have goaded some tories in proposing that the party move further to the right.:rolleyes: This will probably not sit well with their coalition partners. Labour did well; however, it does appear that lots of voters voiced their displeasure by voting for a move to the right, rather than to (slightly) left of centre. The low voter turn out is also surprising, given the economic mess the country is in.
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I think most people are just fed-up and that translates into apathy, Eric.
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Well it doesn't give the turnout but looking at the figures it seems to have been very low, lower than usual less than 1000 voting in St Andrews ward, its usually 50%+ in that ward
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It's becoming more and more apparent, even at local level, that it no longer matters who is elected, as Europe are pulling all the strings when it comes to the governing of this once great country. Sad . . . but so very true.
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I looked at the twitter feed earlier in the day and recall reading 'the police have allowed a conservative councillor to re-enter the hall'. That entry is no longer there but there appears to have been some hassle.
EV Tel - "10:56 StuartPike78: Drama at the #hyndburn count as pushing and shoving near a big group of men at front of hall. Disgraceful scenes. [via Twitter]" and "1:09 StuartPike78: Temperatures seem to have calmed down now after scuffle at the #hyndburn [via Twitter]" |
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I think the apathy is down to people feeling that whatever they vote won't influence what the political parties do(or perhap more relevently, don't do).
People feel that their vote makes no difference at all. Their is very little difference between the three main parties. The electorate needs to be able to shake them up, out of their complacency...but I won't hold my breath waiting. |
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Eric, in the last general election I didn't vote..or perhaps to be more precise I spoiled my paper. I did this because, in all conscience, there wasn't anyone I felt reflected my core values.
I wasn't too idle to go to the polling station...I had appraised myself of the various candidates who were up for election.......and found them all wanting. I have many political discussions with my daughter - who tried her very best to get me to vote for someone rather than spoil my paper. I felt that my vote would count for nothing, it would make no difference. I have no political affiliation and support no party. At each election I try to weigh the candidates against my own values. I cannot see me putting a cross against any of them any time soon. But I might write 'none of the above'. We need some major changes to shake the parties out of their complacency. They need to start listening to the electorate, they need to start telling us(the electorate) the truth(rather than what they think we want to hear), they need to start living in the real world. |
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Local politics is thus tied to National politics, and so most of the time the majority of the voting public vote for the party and not the best person for the job. Having the local MP knocking on doors in an allegedly hotly contested ward (by party, not by personality) shows this to be true. Logic also dictates that if this were not true then more independents would be voted in, and there would not have been such a backlash countrywide against the Libdems in these 'local' elections. Therefore, some 65% of the local population cannot be 'arsed' (apathy), because some minority elected oik will eventually claim that 95% of the people agree with him. |
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I think that party politicians like to make mileage out of the results of the local elections, despite the fact that the two animals are only very lightly yoked together.
It is just another excuse to employ media hype and sling insults at one another - it benefits no-one...and certainly not the electorate. It is generally the case, that at the midterm of a government, local elections will show that the opposition party are favoured. This is often regardless of the policies implemented by the governing party. Many people vote blindly for a political party in both local and general elections......regardless of who can best do the job...and who can best do the job has as much relevance in local elections (probably more relevance when I think about it) as it does in general elections. If by some chance we could take party politics out of local elections then I think (just maybe) more would get done locally...there would be none of this 'walking out' of meetings because a party didn't agree with what the ruling party were proposing. More work would get done, more results would be achieved...there would be less mud slinging and in-fighting. |
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in my considered opinion, it isn't apathy.
I think the political parties fail to recognise how disaffected we are with their antics. Or am I generalising here? I certainly feel disaffected. I feel like the political parties do not recognise that I can see for myself, think for myself and make choices(provided that I am given something to make a choice on). Currently the political parties are so similar, that in reality, there is no choice. Career politicians are not out to improve the lot of the electorate...they are only in the job to line their own pockets, and ensure their own financial security for the future. Many of them have never done a proper job of work. They know (and care) little about the struggles which are faced daily by the 'common man'(and I mean that in the most respectful way). If voting really had any impact in changing things, they would stop us from doing it. They promise much but deliver little. |
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Towns like Accrington are dying, not entirely due to the economy, but more to the lack of leadership from the succession of self-interested parties that past elections have spawned. 'None of the above' has been my electoral mantra at both local and national level for some years past and, until given an affirmative response to the electorate's need for a referendum on our continued membership of the EU., I see no reason to alter my stance - however negative that may seem to some. The current Tory party is none but a shadow compared with it's historical counterparts; The Lib-Dems hardly rate a mention, and Labour is a leopard that changes it's spots to suit whatever opportunity falls into it's lap - and now we hear that the mass murderer Blair is chancing his arm again. Lord help us all!!!
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Tony Blair couldn't even lie straight in bed. The contemptible man!
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Yes, I'm sure she would look at you like a crocodile anticipating a tasty lunch...a caricature of a woman - they are well matched and would each spoil another couple.
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