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Retlaw 15-08-2012 20:16

Keyboard Mystery
 
Whilst reading some of the remembrance notices in the old newspaper, I've notice the following twiddley bit use many times ; what is it called, and what exactly is it used for, can't make any sense of its usage from the Observer.
Also whilst on the subject of thingy's on keyboards, whats the diferrence between the usage of and, and & when is it appropriate to use the later.

Retlaw.

Neil 15-08-2012 20:31

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This explains the use of the semicolon ; as clearly as mud The Semicolon

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2012 20:35

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Retlaw, it is a semi colon....and this explains its use.

How to use a semicolon - The Oatmeal

I know this is an American site, but I liked the way it explains it.

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2012 20:36

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Neil, I think mine is better. :D

DaveinGermany 15-08-2012 20:39

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Semi colon ; and Ampersand &. You're probably best looking at some kind of writers/writing site for an explanation of uses Retlaw. :)

Neil 15-08-2012 20:40

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1009209)
Neil, I think mine is better. :D

Still as clear as mud.

susie123 15-08-2012 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1009204)
Whilst reading some of the remembrance notices in the old newspaper, I've notice the following twiddley bit use many times ; what is it called, and what exactly is it used for, can't make any sense of its usage from the Observer.
Also whilst on the subject of thingy's on keyboards, whats the diferrence between the usage of and, and & when is it appropriate to use the later.

Retlaw.

I know you don't like me cutting and pasting Retlaw but this is as good a description of the use of the semi colon ; as you'll get:

Semicolon (;) - Oxford Dictionaries Online

As for the ampersand, it's not usual to use it in a sentence instead of "and". Its main use is in things like company names (Marks & Spencer) or pairs like Mr & Mrs or rhythm & blues, and book or movie titles such as Thelma & Louise.

Hope this helps.

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2012 20:41

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The other twiddly bit is an Ampersand......used for the word 'and'........but personally I wouldn't use it other than in something like Marks & Spencers.
Again here is something about it.

Grammar Girl : Ampersand :: Quick and Dirty Tips

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2012 20:42

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Sue...you beat me to it. :D

Neil 15-08-2012 20:43

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1009213)
The other twiddly bit is an Ampersand......used for the word 'and'........but personally I wouldn't use it other than in something like Marks & Spencers.
Again here is something about it.

Grammar Girl : Ampersand :: Quick and Dirty Tips

I thought your link was going to be a bit more interesting than it was. I was looking forward to Grammer Girl's dirty tips :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2012 20:44

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1009211)
Still as clear as mud.

I think this is aimed at children...and so I thought it would be as clear as it could be.......I understood it.

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2012 20:46

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1009215)
I thought your link was going to be a bit more interesting than it was. I was looking forward to Grammer Girl's dirty tips :rolleyes:

Yes Neil.....I thought you might...what a good reason for posting the link......to lead a moderator on.
That's the naughtiest thing I have done all day...but it isn't bedtime yet:D.

Neil 15-08-2012 20:50

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1009217)
Yes Neil.....I thought you might...what a good reason for posting the link......to lead a moderator on.
That's the naughtiest thing I have done all day...but it isn't bedtime yet:D.

You are a terribly naughty girl, from the bedtime comment I assume you will be sneaking choccy biccies into bed later for a midnight snack :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2012 20:57

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no nothing like that....what I meant was....I still have time to be naughty....but I'm not saying how naughty:D

Retlaw 15-08-2012 22:14

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1009208)
Retlaw, it is a semi colon....and this explains its use.

How to use a semicolon - The Oatmeal

I know this is an American site, but I liked the way it explains it.

Thanks Margaret.
This bit explains it more or less exactly as I need to use in in my files. I've been using that other dooffer as in Howard & Bullough's, so I got that bit right.
So whats this thingy used for :

Retlaw

Margaret Pilkington 16-08-2012 06:44

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That is a colon.
Here is some information on the use of the colon.

Colons | Punctuation Rules

I hope this helps.

jaysay 16-08-2012 08:47

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I'll make do with commas and fullstops:D

Less 16-08-2012 10:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1009270)
I'll make do with commas and fullstops:D

The thing at the end of your sentence is a smiley,

A fullstop is slightly different.

:)

jaysay 16-08-2012 10:19

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1009279)
The thing at the end of your sentence is a smiley,

A fullstop is slightly different.

:)

Na its sometimes these as well:eek:;):rolleyes::cool::confused::thefinger

Retlaw 16-08-2012 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1009255)
That is a colon.
Here is some information on the use of the colon.

Colons | Punctuation Rules

I hope this helps.

I think I'll gi thad un a miss, dusund mek a reyt lot o sense tu me.

Retlaw 16-08-2012 11:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1009281)
Na its sometimes these as well:eek:;):rolleyes::cool::confused::thefinger

Tha missed one, thowt this wur thi favwrit full stop :tongueout

Margaret Pilkington 16-08-2012 12:53

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1009297)
I think I'll gi thad un a miss, dusund mek a reyt lot o sense tu me.

I did try to find one like the'oatmeal' site...but didn't succeed.

jaysay 16-08-2012 17:52

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1009298)
Tha missed one, thowt this wur thi favwrit full stop :tongueout

Only where your concerned Retlaw:tongueout

cashman 16-08-2012 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1009279)
The thing at the end of your sentence is a smiley,

A fullstop is slightly different.

:)

Blame the keyboard Less.:D


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