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I'm fine with spelling errors, people not using capitals for proper nouns, grammatical screw ups, slang, local idioms etc.. but what really winds me up is the use of the word OF instead of the word HAVE

There's a thread in general at the moment...

Should OF gone to Specsavers....*mutters profanity under his breath*

I can readily accept 'hav', 'av', or 'ave'....but not 'OF'!! *more profanity*

Is it just me? Am I finally joining the 'grumpy old pedant' brigade?

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Well I am with you Guinness.
Text speak is another example.

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Not that bothered personally, perhaps its who used the word?:D

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Appun tha reight, thay shud a gon tu them thieur speksavurs

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Have you been talking to Susie? This is her main bug ... Maybe you are just filling in for her while she is taking a vacation;)

A lot of this kind of stuff happens when you have a Latin style grammar imposed on a Germanic language ... I could go on for hours about the moribund subjunctive ... but I'll spare youse guys the agony:D But I agree; "shoulda went to Specsavers" would of been better.

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No....it isn't just you. It struck me when the thread was first posted, but I gritted my teeth and tried to ignore it...for the reasons you have put in your post....but seeing as you brought it up.......yes it irritates the bejasus out of me. So you definitely aren't on your own.

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Spelling , bad punctuation, basically all bad grammar gets my goat, but we may as well get used to it as teachers only need to get the meaning of what is being conveyed these days. Apparently bad spelling and grammar are not deemed to be important anymore

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Hey ... that's two a youse guys! A couple or three more and we'll have us a pedant's revolt happnin'.:eek::D

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GruMpy ,OwD peDant, BrigadE

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I can take it or leave it, if we were to take issue with all the little niggles that turn up on here from various folk no thread would ever be on topic for more then 3 or 4 posts. :)

The only time really that it "bothers" me, is when someone is using it as grounds to have digs & theirs is equally as bad in one form or another as the person they're disparaging.

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I agree with you, Dave, and members do use it against other members if they are gunning for them.

I know we all tease, Jaysay, but he admits to his dyslexia and takes it in good sport, and knows we do not mean it in a nasty way. Of course, we realise what an intelligent man he really is.

I am Admin. on a small site aimed at over 18's (no, not pornographic or anything :D), and our members get away with a lot more than what they would on here ...but all good fun.

It taught me one lesson: We have a member who, a few years ago, had a cerebral hemorrhage. He now has difficulty arranging his words into the correct order and his spelling is absolutely atrocious. He also appears to have keyboard tourettes and comes out with naughty childlike sexual statements about private parts. They are completely harmless though and very often a good intelligence breaks through.

I met him last Christmas. Such a generous, kind, well spoken and articulate gentleman.

You just never know, do you. So live and let live, Guinness.

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You are not wrong there, Bernie. Teachers do tend to put emphasis on structure and content on a piece of work, which does seem sensible and a good attitude. However, it should be linked in with good grammar and spelling. Why not ? :confused:

My granddaughter once got an 'A' for an essay. She had spelt 'phone' as 'fone' and it hadn't been corrected. My daughter was furious and rang up the school to complain. Bit of a twist that, eh ? Usually, parents ring to complain when they think their children's work should have been given a better mark. :D

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I am not gunning for anyone, but some people do not know they have got it wrong..how are they to learn if they are not told?

I would not have brought it up, but seeing as someone else did, then I gave me personal view on the subject.....we all have them....personal views and things that get our goat.......and without those things there probably would be not much of a forum.

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And yes,we do become a little more inflexible, less tolerant, as we get older.....and that is something which is happening to all of us.

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I'm not gunning for anyone either, it's just the 'of' and 'have' that's one of my own bugbears, like squeezing the toothpaste from the middle or putting the milk in the cup before the hot water :eek:

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If I were you, I would go on about the moribund subjunctive.

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Should've - is the correct way to spell 'should of'

Should've | Easy to understand definition of should've by Your Dictionary

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Should have not should of!

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My remark was not particularly aimed at you Guinness, or Margaret, but you know full well that some members throw this criticism out as a Red Herring to knock them off their thoughts and suggesting they are ignorant.

Bit like if you were having a heated one-to-one in 'real' life ... you might say something like. "Do you know you have a bogey on your nose ?" Throws you out.

It did appear personal though, as not difficult to recognise the culprit. Better if you could have thrown it in a thread about general bugbears.

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Not offended Kate...I had hoped it wasn't about me...but then you never know.
sometimes we try to take the mote out of someone elses eye while we have a huge rock in our own

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'Mote.' Now you see, that is a word I had never heard of before ... so guess we can teach others something new about the English language ... :D:D

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You are not the only one. I pick my kids up on this ALL THE TIME. It's not just the writing of it, that I can put down to accent or mishearing/pronunciation, it's when they actually sat could of etc thinking that that's the way it actually should be. It shows that they really do not understand what they are saying. Sadly, some of my teaching colleagues are equally as unaware of the faux pas they are making, though I must say they are usually of southern origin. (Open invitation to have a go at quality of teaching for those of you so disposed)

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I work in Manchester and a few of my Mancunian colleagues always pronounce have as of.

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I wouldn't kick a man when he's down!

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SHOULD OF called this the gramer/pronunsiation/dislexea thread ;)

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Best time to kick em Gordon, they can't hit yeh back.:D

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I think that's a genetic disorder common amongst drinkers of the ship canal. Research shows that such victims are prone to brain cell deterioration in the presence of the colour red, and an inability to distinguish lapses of time e.g. They think that 120 minutes and 90 minutes are the same :D

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Ankle biting would be possible however.

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My goodness, you are either very good or utterly terrible with haw English wot it shud be rot is writting.

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It would be a change from the back biting which goes on on here.

I'll remember to wear boots if I change my mind!

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See I'm fine with every single word in that sentence except the second one :)

Ripped the following from an online dictionary

of -
auxiliary verb Pronunciation Spelling .
have: He should of asked me first.

Pronunciation note
Because the preposition of, when unstressed ( a piece of cake ), and the unstressed or contracted auxiliary verb have ( could have gone, could've gone ) are both pronounced [uhv] or [uh] in connected speech, inexperienced writers commonly confuse the two words, spelling have as of ( I would of handed in my book report, but the dog ate it ). Professional writers have been able to exploit this spelling deliberately, especially in fiction, to help represent the speech of the uneducated: If he could of went home, he would of.

Sheesh! I really am a sad old pedant... I'm trolling through a dictionary on a Saturday afternoon?? :o

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lol get yourself down the local and have a pint,the dictionary can wait ;)

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A tad harsh Gordon! I'm shocked that anyone could view the forums as anything but a utopian discourse medium filled with mutually respecting soul siblings;)

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Nope, it irritates me too, nothing to do with age-I've been a pedant since I was in my teens!
If it was typed like that, it wouldn't bother me as it would look to clearly be intentional word play rather than ignorance causing misuse of words!

It's true!In fact, I have even found myself having to think about correct use of words despite my pedantry, because they're written incorrectly SO often!From internet forums and discussions boards, websites, supermarkets, to official documents, letters and formal texts!It' saddens me and really winds me up.

Yes should have, 'Should've' been its abbreviation.
Pronunciation is different I think. Not everybody pronounces words as they're written-some words are correctly pronounced nothing like they are written.

I use the word 'Mote' quite often. It's got a few different applied meanings.

I like words. Probably why I get irritated at their mistreatment.

Dyslexia is obviously a cause, however I know many people who use it as an excuse. Not saying anybody on here is in that bracket.
My friend is dyslexic and his written words are impeccable-because he has deemed it as important to take time to learn to overcome the problem, and he checks if he isn't sure. Another method of learning.

I am rubbish at mathematics-but I double check if I'm doing something mathematical, do not assume I am correct.

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at school we had teachers that ran out crying. Stand-in teachers that told us to "copy from page..." I had to struggle along learning English myself.

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Never had to struggle to learn English ... I was born and raised in England. But I did have to re-learn a few words and terms when I landed in Canada ... pronunciation was different too: Canadians pronounce "Ottawa" without pronouncing a single "t" ... "Oddawa" ... :D Have to be careful sometimes too ... if you ask someone for a "rubber" instead of an "eraser", you might be handed a condom.:eek: And, to keep on topic, "of" instead of "have" is quite common here.

Oh, and Sugarmouse, it is "If it were typed like that" ... ;) Ah, the subjunctive:D

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A tad harsh?
I promise not to kick you and you threaten to bite my ankle?
A disgrace to your profession!
What's spiritualism and souls got to do with this thread anyway?

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"The Mote in God's Eye", Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle is a fun read ... Oh, and maybe you should of spent more time on Bible study;):D

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I'll see your pedantry and raise it to being rather than been?


:)

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Haha true.

I was just er, exemplifying the fact that I see so many mistakes , I pick them up :p

I'll bet, if you were bored enough to watch my posts of a weekend, the sense they make is questionable compared to during the week. Nocturnal living does something to my cognition! :)

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The problem I have is that I type as I would talk and for the ones that have met me sometimes that is difficult! :D ;)

I have been told off at work for it!

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I always have typed as i talk.:)

My bug bear is when people say baf instead of bath and fousand instead of thousand...Even Mark the schoolteacher on the chase says fousand instead of thousand and it irritates the hell out of me especially when he is supposed to be so intelligent!!!!!!.

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I cringe when I hear 'drawring' and 'nothink'

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Don't think I've heard the former but hearing folk put a 'K' on the end of nothing/something/everything riles me as well-I usually cannot help but say something(k).

Also people who do that, often say 'Noffink'-not even 'Nothink'......

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I have been known to drop my aitches.

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As long as thats all yeh drop.

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Mine's when people use two words when one's enough.:D:D:rolleyes:

bugbear
Pronunciation: /ˈbʌgbɛː/
Definition of bugbear
noun

1a cause of obsessive fear, anxiety, or irritation:

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Mine used to be when somebody shouted "Last Orders" But don't bother me these days.:D

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Hope you don't add the 'g' either, Sugarmouse. 'Ing' is a nasal sound and produced by raising the tongue (pronounced tung without the 'g' ..:D) at the back of the palette as you say it.

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Lol am I supposed to be sitting here saying words to myself, now? :)

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Me neither ... 'cause I always got a fridge full:D

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Find a pub where 'Last orders'= 'When the last person leaves' :)

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Drawring bugs me too! Especially when people leave the r out of words like farm (fahm) and then stick an extra one in drawing to say drawring. Bleeding bbc is not good or this.

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Thing is, its yokels talk like that, Yeh should pity em really.:D

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Try living in the USA
In the South it is a real blast :)

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Never lived, but spent time in Louisiana,Tennessee, n envy yeh,i love it. been to other states also but south is our favourite.:)

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got to be kekkle and hospikal, that gets me!

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Anybody ever get "aksed" a question?

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Thats proper Accy Talk.:D

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Bockle as well. I love that one:rolleyes:


A lot of West Indian folk talk like that as well I've noticed! :) I didn't know it was an Accrington thing.

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I have to admit that I haven't heard the 'akses' for asks much in Accrington...but then I suppose my social cirlce doesn't really include many young folk who want to adopt this carib. type patois. I must try and get out more :)

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Yeh didn't get out enough when yeh were young Margaret, we used akses all the time.:)

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And I've been known to drop my gotchies.;)

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i saw someone online selling "chester draws" :D

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I wur axed mony a time wad are ta up tu, wen a wur a kid.

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You are right Cashy...I didn't get out...too much cleaning to do...too many babies to look after.

I had never actually heard that word until one day I caught himself watching Jeremy Vile(Kyle).....hideous program.
So, yes I have led a sheltered life.

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How about texes? As in, 'I keep getting texes from him/her' or 'I texed him last week'
Or Draklia as opposed to Dracula?

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Time to revive an old chestnut: dilemma vs. dilemna. Some on here still insist that the latter is the correct spelling.

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pacific instead of specific ;-)

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I heard a few use that, To me its idiot talk not any local.:D

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Me too!Unfortunately idiots are a very widespread breed :)

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Its not far off :p

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I am a member of an internet group where people post things they want, as well as things they have and don't want (A Freecycle type local group).

Somebody has just asked if anybody has any spare 'Bombfire' material.

BOMBfire?!?

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My ex, is Irish, she always pronounced film as flim, when trying to correct herself she couldn't manage it, she would say filem.

Irony is...

She was a hard worker managed to get promoted to Manageress of a Cinema.
It was wonderful on the occasions someone rang up and she answered the 'phone for inquiries about what was showing.

"well the flim, sorry the filem", is such and such.

She was years ahead of the confusion we get when ringing up now.

Sorry G no insult intended.
:D