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Nicolam774 19-05-2013 19:16
Help! Whalley hospital information
 
Hi my names Nicola. Just joined today and been reading through some old threads. I'm wondering if anyone can give me information on the whalley area in 1954.
My mothers aunty died in the area and all we have is a document from the funeral directors which says she was collected from whalley hospital in February 1954.
We just want to know what the hospital was for and why she would have been there.
I know it's a long shot but her name was Margaret gamble and she was 29 when she died and my mum is desperate for any information on why she would have been there.

Thanks so much in advance for your help!

Retlaw 19-05-2013 19:26
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Originally Posted by Nicolam774 (Post 1059546)
Hi my names Nicola. Just joined today and been reading through some old threads. I'm wondering if anyone can give me information on the whalley area in 1954.
My mothers aunty died in the area and all we have is a document from the funeral directors which says she was collected from whalley hospital in February 1954.
We just want to know what the hospital was for and why she would have been there.
I know it's a long shot but her name was Margaret gamble and she was 29 when she died and my mum is desperate for any information on why she would have been there.

Thanks so much in advance for your help!
I think the Whalley Hospital could be Calderstones. It was at one time a military hospital in WW1.
Try one of them goggle searches, it may help. Lancs BMD Margaret Gamble 1954 Cltheroe A. CLA/8/36.

Bob Dobson 19-05-2013 19:26
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Google: Lancashire Births Marriages, Death ..... or Lancashire BMD This will give you some information from which you will; be able to obtain a death certificate

A search of the papers may bring up an inquest soon after her death. Likewise there may be a report on her death. Accrington Library may be able to help - [email protected] If she lived in Clitheroe - alter the address

Whalley Library may have a file on the work done there. I feel it was a place where people were sent for recuperation.
I will send you the address of the secretary of the local history society who may know something about the hospital

Bob Dobson 19-05-2013 19:27
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If it was Calderstones, there may be a mental aspect to her illness. I think there has recently been a book on Calderstones

Nicolam774 19-05-2013 19:31
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That's brilliant thank you! It's so hard to find anything out and there's a lot of stigma surrounding the subject. We are from liverpool and it seems she was sent away for whatever reason. There are no pictures of her and my grandmother, who was a very loving lady and wore her heart on her sleeve, would not speak about it.
We understand that some things are best left lie, but my 2 baby nephews are in hospital at the minute both having seizures and we just want to know if there is anything in our gene line that could be causing it.
I will look at what you have suggested and thanks again!

Retlaw 19-05-2013 19:41
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Originally Posted by Nicolam774 (Post 1059551)
That's brilliant thank you! It's so hard to find anything out and there's a lot of stigma surrounding the subject. We are from liverpool and it seems she was sent away for whatever reason. There are no pictures of her and my grandmother, who was a very loving lady and wore her heart on her sleeve, would not speak about it.
We understand that some things are best left lie, but my 2 baby nephews are in hospital at the minute both having seizures and we just want to know if there is anything in our gene line that could be causing it.
I will look at what you have suggested and thanks again!
Then what you need to do next is see if there was an inquest into her death, sometimes a visit to the cemetery and ask for burial details they may throw some light on her death, or point you to other sources.

MargaretR 19-05-2013 20:05
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I visited inpatients at Calderstones a few times in the course of my work.

Not all the patients were mentally ill. Some were old ladies sent there many years ago just because they were unmarried mothers.

cashman 19-05-2013 21:29
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MargaretR is correct quite a few were sent yon as un-married mothers, carried quite a stigma way back. the answer may not be as grim as yeh might suspect. good luck in yer search.;)

accyman 19-05-2013 21:47
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i remember been told about one elderly woman at colderstones who had been there as a mental patient from a young age because she was deaf

long gone now most likely but it seemed thatif your mom and dad couldnt be bothered with you it was pretty easy to get you put in a mental home

cashman 19-05-2013 22:07
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Accymans post just reminded me in 63/64 i lived in a lodging house in accy, one guy yon was released from calderstones, the reason he was put in, he was a bit slow on the uptake, sod all wrong wi the guy,just not the brightest lamp on the street, he worked at Nori after his release.;)

Neil 20-05-2013 07:12
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1059560)
I visited inpatients at Calderstones a few times in the course of my work.

Not all the patients were mentally ill. Some were old ladies sent there many years ago just because they were unmarried mothers.
It all starts coming together now, did you assume the life of a lady visiting you and condemn her to take you place in the nut house? :p

Neil 20-05-2013 07:20
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Originally Posted by Nicolam774 (Post 1059546)
Hi my names Nicola. Just joined today and been reading through some old threads. I'm wondering if anyone can give me information on the whalley area in 1954.
My mothers aunty died in the area and all we have is a document from the funeral directors which says she was collected from whalley hospital in February 1954.
We just want to know what the hospital was for and why she would have been there.
I know it's a long shot but her name was Margaret gamble and she was 29 when she died and my mum is desperate for any information on why she would have been there.

Thanks so much in advance for your help!
I would look into Bramley Meade Hospital which became a maternity Hospital before being sold and turned into a private house.

A quick google found this burial record for a Padiham Cemetery

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Burial: 3 Jun 1955 St John's Rd Cemetery, Padiham, Lancs.
Michael Hosker -
Age: 24hrs
Abode: 24 James St Padiham
Grave: 4215A
Plot: 27
Died At: Bramley Mead Hospital Whalley
Registrar's Signature: George H Helm
Buried by: None
Register: Burials 1930 - 2012, Page 82, Entry 8736
Source: Original Registers
I wasn't aware it was a normal hospital before being a maternity hospital but I am only a young lad :rolleyes:

This link also refers to Bramley Meade as being the Whalley hospital before it became a maternity hospital The Study: Bits and Bobs

MargaretR 20-05-2013 07:23
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cashman 20-05-2013 07:35
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1059607)
I would look into Bramley Meade Hospital which became a maternity Hospital before being sold and turned into a private house.

A quick google found this burial record for a Padiham Cemetery



I wasn't aware it was a normal hospital before being a maternity hospital but I am only a young lad :rolleyes:

This link also refers to Bramley Meade as being the Whalley hospital before it became a maternity hospital The Study: Bits and Bobs
I was born yon in 48? i think.:confused:

MargaretR 20-05-2013 07:46
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Family biographies: Frederick Dixon
Bramley Meade was home to a Dixon family until 1925

Neil 20-05-2013 08:07
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Can I remind you that posting just pictures is against the rules :p

MargaretR 20-05-2013 08:12
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Can I remind you that posting just pictures is against the rules :p
Can I remind you that insulting members is against the rules.

Neil 20-05-2013 08:13
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Can I remind you that insulting members is against the rules.
Shall I remind you of that the next time you do it?

jaysay 20-05-2013 08:16
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It all starts coming together now, did you assume the life of a lady visiting you and condemn her to take you place in the nut house? :p
That's one of the bravest posts I've seen on here for a while, jaysay stands back and waits for backlash from Heron Way:D

MargaretR 20-05-2013 08:18
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Shall I remind you of that the next time you do it?
I don't insult - I just use innuendo

innuendo - definition of innuendo by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Neil 20-05-2013 08:19
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1059622)
That's one of the bravest posts I've seen on here for a while, jaysay stands back and waits for backlash from Heron Way:D
Why? It was just an innocent question.

MargaretR 20-05-2013 08:22
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This is not the place for members or moderators to thread wander when a new member is seeking information vital to their peace of mind.

jaysay 20-05-2013 09:19
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Why? It was just an innocent question.
Innocent question:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

ossy kid 20-05-2013 14:26
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Private message sent {about the subject**.

westendlass 20-05-2013 18:01
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My mum was a nurse at Brockhall and Calderstones hospitals for all of her career, and she too told me that many of the elderly residents were sent there as children or young adults for what we,today, would consider something and nothing. They spent the whole of their lives in the hospitals, largely forgotten about, becoming institutionalised along the way. Also, I think there is a cemetery in Whalley that was used by Calderstones. I think it appeared in the Telegraph a couple of years back as it had become neglected and forgotten about. Maybe there could be clues to be found there.

Retlaw 20-05-2013 19:39
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Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1059718)
My mum was a nurse at Brockhall and Calderstones hospitals for all of her career, and she too told me that many of the elderly residents were sent there as children or young adults for what we,today, would consider something and nothing. They spent the whole of their lives in the hospitals, largely forgotten about, becoming institutionalised along the way. Also, I think there is a cemetery in Whalley that was used by Calderstones. I think it appeared in the Telegraph a couple of years back as it had become neglected and forgotten about. Maybe there could be clues to be found there.
I doubt whether visiting that cemetery would help, post 1 says that the body was collected by the undertakers at Whalley Hospital. Then the enquirer states in another of the posts that they are from the Liverpool area.

accyman 20-05-2013 20:00
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1059612)
I was born yon in 48? i think.:confused:
that definatley explains the wrinkles ,i think you only missed the crucifixion by a handfull of years lol

im a mere pup born in 1971

MargaretR 20-05-2013 20:07
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Ref - Calderstones

At one time there was an attempt to reintegrate those women back into society.
Social workers set up a 'half way house' where they could try to live independantly.
Two old ladies (maybe more that I wasn't aware of) did prove they could cope and I arranged payments for houshold goods.

ossy kid 20-05-2013 20:16
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Info sent re burial.


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