A question for Clayton 'bottom enders'
 

At the right hand side end of Lower Barnes St there is a new housing development which covers the area down to the river.

I am contemplating moving there.

What is your opinion of the area eg. crime and asbo type info would help me decide.

Thanks

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I think there was some opposition down there to waste company wanting to expand and it was thought that there was going to be an increase in vermin smell and flies etc

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Thanks for that response - which waste company is that? (so I can look on Google streetview), and is their application still pending?

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Cant remember the full details , the waste company is based right down the bottom near the river i think by turning left just before the Hyndburn Bridge pub on Whalley rd , the single lane track goes right to the bottom of lower Barnes Street

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Thanks - I think I have found them

Skip Hire UK, Nationwide Skip Hire, Mini Skips, Midi Skips, Builders Skips, Roll on roll off, Grab loaders and Asbestos removal from Skiphire UK

A potential problem that I am grateful to learn of.

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I thought the price seemed to good to be true without some hitch or other :(

Protest against asbestos plans for Clayton-le-Moors site (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Skip hire firm investigation following Hyndburn bonfire (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Green belt homes plan gets refusal (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Hyndburn planners receive one complaint a day (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Action is threatened against skip firm - Accrington Observer

I will be viewing it anyway and specifically ask about whether the firm is now 'behaving'

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just to put this in perspective the skip company access their site via Whalley Road and don't travel down lower Barnes street. The road between Lower Barnes Street and the Hyndburn pub is blocked off a few hundred yards in from Lower Barnes Street.

Lower Barnes Street is not the place that has been represented here.

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I have a couple of pals live in the flats top end nothing to say really detrimental, i.e. they like the area, there's the usual sprinkling of drongos wherever you go. Hobby Caravan stolen off Atlas Street compound last week.
Plus ..You are far enough from the Royal on Sparth down there Margaret too ;)
Call in the Forts and ask around.

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Heartening info - seems like the complaints about black smoke (mentioned in the press links) would be made from the older estate which is east of the skip site, and so the prevailing wind will have got it to them.

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They'll get used to you, just as long as you stick to your curfew hours. ;)

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I walk around lower Barnes Street on a casual, but regular basis, most of the time I am down there on my own, never seen black smoke, I have even posted pictures of the area in the "today in pictures" thread. If possible why not have a drive around to get a flavour of the place.

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I gave my car to my granddaughter a year ago and haven't been out since- I am a recluse.

My son will take me to view this flat. If I get it, (since it is ground floor), I might buy a mobility scooter

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My family have lived on Lower Barnes Street, on the little block next to Forts Arms, for around 50 years - in fact I was born in that house - & have always been happy there. I know this is a little higher up the street than you are looking at Margaret but on the whole I wouldn't have anything negative to say about that area, apart from maybe that the buses are a little infrequent these days especially at the weekends

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Am I right in thinking the area you are talking about used to be refered to as the Hounds, my grandad used to say Im goowin fer a walk round thounds.

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What curfew hours? - I am under self imposed 'house arrest' - it is a stress free way to live if you like yourself.;)

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My mother in law moved down to Lower Barnes Street from the top end of Clayton......she lived there until she died and she was very happy in her sheltered accommodation flat......she had a second floor flat and could see out over Clayton...she wasn't far from the park and she could go there for a gentle stroll on sunny days.
Margaret, go for it.

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Even before seeing it I have got a removal estimate.:)

Wherever you live there will be some 'negatives' - the 'trick' is finding a place that meets most of your needs and only has 'bad points' that you know you can cope with.

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I grew up in the bottom end of Clayton , my family still live there , i would move back tomorrow but the one thing that bothers me is the traffic in a morning , from sparth to hare n hounds is like a car park at times

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I found that when I lived in Church - Henry St was gridlocked in rush hours. It started after the motorway was built. If you are near any motorway exit you have to expect it (unfortunately)

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After living at the bottom of Henry St in Clayton, my mother in law found it really peaceful and quiet.

I think you are spot on with your comments about where to live...there will always be some drawbacks, but as long as the good points out number the bad ones, then you are onto a winner.

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My mother used to call it goin' round th'ounds as well. Don't know what the origin of that is.

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Wouldn't that be the Hare and Hounds pub?

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No. Miles away from there. This is the track that runs along the side of the Hyndburn from Lower Barnes Street to Whalley Road, so the very bottom end of Clayton. The Hare and Hounds pub is at the corner of Blackburn Road and Whalley Road up top end.

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My dad still calls the route from Clayton to Harwood via Lower Barnes Street "o'er switchback"

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smobile Ive always called it the same and walked it many times.

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when i first stated work i used to pedal that way on my bike , i didn't realise you could still get through ,i thought they'd blocked it off at the Harwood end when they extended the industrial estate

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I viewed it today and have applied for it. I will have to wait a week to see whether I get it. There were two young couples viewing at the same time, so I do have some competition - fingers crossed.

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Good luck margaret hope yeh get it. surely yeh must have priority oer young uns?? or is that another thing of the past?:confused:

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Age doesn't count with private landlords. They are more concerned with ability to pay and credit rating, and also whether you have kids and pets which could damage the place.

When I got back home I had an email alert from Rightmove that a house on the estate is on offer at £25 a month LESS - so I am hoping the competition will prefer that.

A question for Clayton 'bottom enders'
 

If that doesn't work out below is the email of an agent, he may be able to assist:-

[email protected]

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Have you applied for a one bedroomed cage?
Heating costs will be nil :D

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Well that's no good, Mags will make him put all the fires out cos I'm pretty sure she'll be allergic to all that Brimstone & Sulphur! And I'm sure her home deliveries won't be over keen on turning to either! :D

A question for Clayton 'bottom enders'
 

Tsk, I'm sure mags will agree, they sell these discrete air fresheners already.

Discrete? If the adverts right I'll never see it and I'll never smell it so why give me choices, one should do for all.

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I used to walk over the fields to visit my aunt Annie in Snuffy Arod on a sunday after mass at St Mary's, I think the first building you came to on the Gr Harwood side was a big weaving mill with a bowling green on the side, must have been part of the mills social club. always loved that walk & the smell of the sunday roast when I walked into aunt Annies. Sentimental ****** are'nt I.

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Getting that flat is looking good - they just need to see my income verification docs (on their way to them), and it's MINE :Banane20:

A question for Clayton 'bottom enders'
 

Looking forward to the housewarming party, I'll bring you some scented candles.

;)

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There's quite a few on here that won't be invited to that party, and thar No. 1. :hehetable

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No party - don't like crowds and noise - "I vant to be alone" - Garbo

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True, he aint half as popular as me.:D

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Just had confirmation that I have been granted tenancy - bottom end - here I come :D

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I hope you will wave from your veranda as I walk passed.

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Well, I can see some of those flats from where I live .. so if I get my binoculars out may be able to spot you tottering about ...:)

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Hope you enjoy living in your New Home Margaret...and that the move is not too tiresome.

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Splendid the class of the bottom end will now be raised.;):D

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I will be ground floor and so I don't think you will be able to see me having a fag on my balconeeee :D

PS I may be getting an electric scooter so could visit (if invited)

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Pickfords packing service costs an arm and a leg but will do the hard work.

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Eeew, yes, you would be welcome anytime, Margaret. Nearly offered, etc., but thought there was no flexibility on your 'vant to be alone' policy ...:D x

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I don't mind you seeing me in my nightie (under my fur coat), wearing a carbon face mask, and no teeth.

There aren't many folk I would risk inflicting that on :D

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It will be worth every penny if it allows you to sit back and watch them do all the hard work.

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Oh yes getting a firm in to do the packing is a really good move (pardon the pun). Have done it twice now, well worth it.

Hope your new home is all you expect and that you enjoy living there.

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A new home and an electric scooter- it could be the making of you!

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Margaret could even join "Hells Grannys":D

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Only after she gets a tattoo, and her belly button pierced(sorry Margaret - I couldn't help myself) :D

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Shouldn't that be "A Hellish Granny"? :idunno:

Ask the Grandkids. :)

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I like it here :D

My son and his wife are making great progress with the unpacking - I expect to be fully installed by weekend.

Sitting on the balcony in the sun, having morning coffee, reminds me of holidays in Italy.

Neighbours are friendly and civilised, and their children are well behaved.

Once I recover from the vapours from gloss paint (landlady thought she was doing me a favour by 'refreshing' woodwork) I expect to resume my contented life style.

Children play on the grass in front of these flats - I enjoy watching them and we exchange smiles and 'hellos'.

I know I did the right thing in moving - just need a little recovery time - I am very exhausted.

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Good on yer, seem to be settling in n enjoying life a bit more, hope it continues.;)

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So pleased Margaret, a bit of a gamble, glad it paid off. You can get on and enjoy life now. How lovely to have a balcony in this weather. Hope the sun continues so you you can make full use of it - you arrived at just the right time!

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One of my Home Help ladies is a born and bred 'bottom ender'.
She has told me that the site of this 6 year old housing estate was the location of Clayton Laundry which burn down when she was aged 10 - 30 years ago.

I have been unable to find anything about Clayton Laundry on the web., and would like any personal anecdotes about it if you have them.

When Dave recently posted pics of the river nearby, I asked him about this feature I had seen on Google Maps

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Cla...d+Kingdom&z=19

It is logical to presume that it was a waste water outlet for the laundry, would be nice to confirm or deny that. Such primitive pollution of water courses was tolerated 30 years ago.

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My mum worked in the office at Clayton laundry for a time, it was owned & run by the Joinson family - I remember the night it burnt down, we lived on Lower Barnes Street & it seemed the whole of Clayton was there watching, a horrible night

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Good info -thanks.
The name Joinson rings a bell. A girl I 'palled with' in the 50s (in Ossy) had a boyfriend named Joinson who lived in a house overlooking Mercer Park - likely to be the same family.

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I remember a reporter in the Observer named Joinson, in the 60s. I think they might have had something to do with the building trade as well, in Clayton.

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That was Rowland Joynson. He spelt his surname with a y rather than an i although I think they may have been the same family. I think he published some books on the local area as well.

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Yes, I have one of his books, can't locate it just now, but think it was a collection of his Observer pieces.

The grocer in Accy where Mum used to get her supplies on the 60s was also called Joinson, Herbert I think. May have lived in Clayton. He had an old fashioned shop on Whalley Road, I think in the same block as the Crown and Anchor. Chairs for customers at the counter, butter and sugar etc weighed, things stacked on shelves behind the counter. Mum used to write her order in a notebook, and then drop it at the shop. The groceries were delivered next day.

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If I can remember correctly wasn't Riley's chemical and colouring company just Down this narrow roadway. 2 brothers , Allan and Alec used to run it. They were making Alum for paper manufacturers.

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Cant remember the Crown & anchor, on Whalley road

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I too have had nites like those, bud;):D Come to think of it ... I can't remember it either; but, I've destroyed so many of my brain cells .... :cool:

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Alan, my husband reckons it was called the Hope And Anchor. It was across the road from the Broadway pub. It was the headquarters of the Accrington rabbit club, and when he was young he used to show his rabbits there. The the shows were held in a upstairs room. He thinks it was a Lion house in those days but stands to be corrected on that.

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OK, read it wrong, thought Susie was talking about Clayton.

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It is the Hope and Anchor, my uncle Reg Blinco was the landlord there for a while

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It's closed and semi derelict now Irene. Was a bikers pub for a long time and heavy metal bands featured there as Restless will attest to I am sure.
It can be viewed in it's former glory on Google maps street level.

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It was a Lion House in early 60s, used to have a slurp in yon wi the late Pat Snead, a top geezer,;)

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rileys chemicals were down there .they sold the works and land for building.some dodgy stuff made there during ww2.most folks in clayton either had a family member or knew someone who worked there,always had vacancies due to nasty type of work.

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So there was a chemical works as well as a laundry.
I don't have a garden to grow veg so I don't forsee chemicals in the land would be a problem for me - however, if anyone here can supply more info about precise location of that factory and the type of chemicals produced, I would appreciate it.

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I have now found this -
http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/counci...=A&FILEID=3763

which indicates that the chemical works was where the skip hire place is now - no problem :D