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My life would be much easier if I had a bedside telephone extension. In this spacious flat it is a long walk from the bedroom to the phone in the lounge, and I sometimes don't make it there in time to answer. I do have several daytime naps.

I used to use a radio phone a few years ago, but reverted back to a corded phone when I learned how much radiation radio phones emit. So don't bother suggesting that as a solution.

I have phoned BT who have said that they would charge £200+, but they do not object to DIY jobs using extension kits. Such DIY was within my capabilities at one time but now it is beyond me, especialy since the BT main socket is behind heavy furniture.

Do you know of any local tradesmen who could do the job?

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No, most tradesmen are frightened of dying from blood poisoning from hitting their thumb tacking your cables than any minute mild dose of radiation they may get from the airways.
;)

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I've just approached a mate of mine for you, Margaret. he is a retired GPO phone man but turned the job down because wiring has changed since his day.

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I am sure that a conventional telephone cable would be adequate - I wont be operating a PC at the extension.

It looks as though I will need a recently retired BT engineer who needs a bit of cash. Having a decent 'works pension' means that such persons will be as rare as rocking horse doodoo.

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Margaret, you can buy a small double socket which plugs into your lounge socket so you can plug in the lounge phone and run an extension round the carpets or wall to the bedroom. You can buy very long extensions(I have a spare one but we're too far away) and if you don't want to pin it use little strips of Blutack to stick it on the bottom of the skirting board.
No re-connecting or re- wiring needed, your son could do it if he's handy.

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Gordon, I was just about to suggest that.

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Just in addition to Gordons suggestion, if you get broadband through your telephone line you`ll also need a filter for the second phone.

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not with the new bt main socket

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Good point. Margaret's in a new apartment so may have the latest main socket. If she hasn't she'll already be having to use a filter so just needs another one.

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I`m a bit behind the times, i`ve not had broadband through the phone line for a few years. The new ones have built in filter?

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Because of the layout of the rooms I will need a lot more cable that such an extension would provide.
It would have to be routed along three walls in the lounge - needing about 38' - then it will travel the length of a long hallway going 'up and over' 3 door frames, before entering the bedroom where a further 26' would be needed to reach the bedside.

I told you this flat was big - I should have said 'palatial'
When I found it on the web these were the photos in the agents ad.

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These are the other agents ad photos (since I know I would want to see them too:D)

Two bathrooms!, the long hallway includes a large built-in storage cupboard.
I can't lay cable under carpet - it is glued down (office style)
The kitchen is 'open plan' of sorts - behind the wall where the TV is in these photos.
The main bedroom is bigger than the lounge and has two windows and an en-suite

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That's certainly big, Margaret. I can see why you can't get from bedroom to lounge before it stops ringing!
If you don't fancy a cordless how about plugging an answerphone in? If it's important they'll leave a message.

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yeh my bt one has

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If I don't answer my son thinks I'm dead :D

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Put your own message on-' I'm not dead yet but I don't run! I'll ring you back'.
If you don't ring him back within two weeks he'll guess there's a problem

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I don't get the telegraph anymore, but there was nearly always an advert in there for a man who was an ex Bt engineer who did fit extra sockets.
Will check in the Citizen next time I am in Asda.

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Think this is the one Margaret.
Blackburn telephone Engineer, all charges a Fraction of your SP & NO VAT, Ex BT.

might be worth checking him out after the festive break.

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My Mum has been talking about having an extension put upstairs.......for the same reasons that you need an extension....and I cut the number out of the paper.
I have just rung her to see if she still had the information...and she gave me that number....i had googled and came up with it too.
Before you ask...no, Ma hasn't got around to having an extension fitted yet.

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Go cordless,we did easiest option

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Frank, Margaret doesn't want a cordless phone because of the EMF it is thought to create.
A wired phone is safer for my mum because they still work when the electricity goes off......which is quite frequently.
She won't entertain a cordless or a mobile phone either.
A matter of choice.

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Your right Margaret,you are the sensible one who thinks first. I forgot about power cuts and cordless phones going off. We keep a corded one just in case.

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Is yours a new flat? My son has moved into a house on Riverside view and he has phone sockets in every room

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Thanks Margaret - just the ticket:alright:


This estate was built about 6/7 years ago. The flat has 4 TV ariel sockets (every room except bathrooms) but only one telephone socket. I was very poorly on flitting day so the removal men put things in place without much direction. I have recently got my son to look behind the wardrobes where there might have been one -but sadly - none there

TV ariel sockets are similar to what oldstyle phone sockets looked like - so are you sure they are phone sockets?

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My place is three years old and has dual telephone sockets in all rooms apart from the kitchen. One hole is for the telephone and the other on the same backplate is a broadband connection and they have filters built in.
The phones are wireless anyway because I don't care about the radiation, what little if any there is.
I always stand well clear of the microwave when opening the door to let the radiation pour out first, I suppose it just drifts away on the floor.

I still have a corded phone just in case of a power cut and I always have my mobile which I can charge in the car if all else fails.

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Read this and think again
Cordless phones: the unspoken DECT hazard at home and at work from the national research-based TETRA Airwave safety campaign

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I did read it Margaret and below is a copy of the last part translated from German.


With DECT phones, the SAR for the head below 0.1 W / kg. The recommended exposure limit of 2.0 W / kg is thus undercut by a multiple. According to the state of science at national and international level, although there is evidence of biological effects, but no evidence that high-frequency electromagnetic fields - the basis of the operation of DECT phones - cause health damage. This applies provided that the limits are adhered to. Also a special hazard to pulsed signals, which is repeatedly cited, could not be demonstrated so far on a scientific basis.

IRMC.

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It's the old and new ones that do. The original BT broadband was installed by BT. They replaced the original master socket front with an ADSL one. Then wires only broadband with nasty microfilters came along so you could install it yourself. More recently BT have realised their error and reverted to the original adsl master socket. It has a phone and ADSL socket on it.

They can be bought for about £10 from CPC. Wiring an extension is simple and if a retired BT man can't do it he can't have been very good. Only 3 wires to parallel on each socket 2, 3 and 5 and simple drawings are all over the net.

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Last time I had adsl was a few years ago and needed a filter for each phone (still have same set up at work), had optic fibre at home since moving in 3 years ago so no need for any filters.

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I love the idea, though I suspect that if you use your microwave a great deal it might be worthwhile opening the back door to allow the radiation to disperse to the outside otherwise it might all pile up on itself and flood your kitchen.
:alright:

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I have just had another thought.
There is a wall mounted extractor fan over the cooker opposite the nasty evil radiation spilling microwave.
Do you think that if I switched it on before I open the microwave door it would suck the offending radiation out onto neighbours garden, then if his plants start to roots upwards and petals down it will prove the point about radiation?

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Don`t know, but if the incredible hulk as taught us anything, radiation isn`t all bad.http://images.zaazu.com/img/Incredib...0342-large.gif

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In the past few years three people I knew of my generation have died from brain tumours. I don't recall that being a cause of death ever mentioned in the time before we were bombarded by/with gadgets that emit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=E_WJ_aJPWIA#

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You don't have fibre optic at home, no one does. Fibre ends at the street cabinet and you have wires from there to your house. Sounds like you are on Virgin cable.

With the ADSL master socket no other micro filters are needed.

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yes he has tried them

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Some DIY phone extension cables are not recommended for broadband internet service. It is usually possible, even in large properties, to save cable length by drilling through internal - and sometimes external - walls. I hope that this serves as good advice.

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Neatest way is to wire directly into the master socket and fit a second master socket where the extension is required, that way broadband works from either socket.

Surely someone local could wire that up in exchange for a few sheckles and a cup of tea.

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You only have one master socket on the circuit.

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I recall from elementary education that there is a difference between radiation and forced convection, if I read your account correctly. The microwave radiation appears because, very roughly, electrons resonate in a cavity - and this radiation can more 'easily' travel to your neighbour's garden if you disable the door switch. The less rough description cannot be given in terms with which most folk are familiar. It's quantum-mechanical, though no less fun for that reason.

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By dint of reading her original post, I consider that this lady needs only a cable suitable for low-frequency phone use, so nix to my and others' broadband gabble.

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That must have been one heck of a primary school you went to, Graham Hartley.

I don't think we learned much about microwave radiation and quantum mechanics even at AGS!

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I once had to turn up to a Restaurant to repair a microwave, the Chef in his wisdom had taken his carving knife to the door catch (not the switch) and had resorted to putting a brick in front of the door to keep it shut.

This was a large expensive catering machine, all singing and dancing state of the art expensive!

He claimed he had done it to try to stop it beeping when it finished cooking because it could be heard in the dining area, he didn't want his customers to hear him defrosting the ready meals he was serving up.

His stupidity as well as being dangerous did not of course stop the beep, it did cost his bosses the price of a new machine, because although when we finished repairing any machine we used all the correct equipment and tests to ensure the safety of any microwave oven, we weren't prepared to say that machine would ever be safe again.

Microwave ovens are perfectly safe if maintained and checked correctly by qualified personnel, anyone removing a door switch is a fool.
:microwave

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At Mount Pleasant in Clayton-le-Moors, Mrs Pickering and Mrs Haydock would often assist us with essays by giving the first line - usually 'Last night I went to bed and thought...' which was of course a gift to me. Before that sentence had ended I had mentioned the Texas transistor, now all power MOSFETS - Metal Oxide Silicon Field Effect Transistors (if I may capitalise) but then low-power p-channel hardware with a map of Texas printed on each one. There arose my fondness for Geography, and my award of full marks from Ma Waring for my 3X essay on Iceland. I venture to mention Jean Scull and Harry Foulds, who would often open a lesson by inviting questions. A few of us gave them them runs, but rarely pauses.

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An open microwave cavity is such an adventure! Even if it kills - and it rarely does that to humans even of the most stupid variety - for evidence, I am yet alive - it is a sacrifice worth making.

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Are we not at risk of judgement that we are no longer helping this woman with her telephone extension, and so can be pot-shot banned?

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And just the proof that MargeretR needs to prove that microwaves can addle the brain!:D

I hate to repeat myself but, I will emphasize what I have already said,

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I'll bet you've had that effect on a few people.

It's called a 'thread wander', Graham Hartley. Not entirely approved if it goes on too long but permitted.
And a thread wander can be so much fun. Look how we are learning what you thought about in bed!

Incidentally, I can't speak for MargartR but I think she might prefer 'this lady' or MargaretR .Perhaps Margaret might seem over familiar.

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Yet I fear that I will have but a short life here, given the fun some derive from my autistic posturing. Can one say 'some' without meaning 'Margaret Polkington' if I have her name aright?

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Thanks for reading my remarks in the intended spirit.

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I see no spirit in your posts, I see someone that is most likely troubled, very troubled in fact and tries to hide it whilst having the minimum of success with that deceit on anyone but himself!

Pity not contempt though, is the only emotion I can offer you.
:o

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Your life on here can be as long as you want it to be. It's up to you, the 'limits' are almost limitless. As you've found you can get away with quite a lot.

I am just as confident you're not autistic as I am that you knew Margaret Pilkingtons correct name. I could be wrong, I hope not.

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Any number of master sockets can be connected to a circuit as they are paralleled on the A and B lines only (connections 2 and 5 on the socket) connection 3 is the ringing circuit only.

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MargaretR and I are two different people......and it is quite easy to do the courteous thing, which is to spell my name correctly.
Spelling it as you have done, strikes me that you are in the business of deliberately causing offence and being bad mannered.
This is not an admirable trait.

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It is extremely thoughtless of you, Graham Hartley, and very demeaning to those people who have the misfortune to suffer with autism, to appear to be almost boasting of your so-called connection to this disability.
Your flippant use of the word in connection to yourself reeks of a lack of understanding of the disorder.
It is possible that you do not mean to be disrespectful but in my opinion, for what it’s worth, that is how you come across.
Be thankful that you do not have this disorder. I do not think you are autistic - just rude and full of yourself. These are not traits of autistic people.

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...and my apologies to MargaretR for posting a comment on her thread which is of no help whatsoever to her problem. Hope you get it sorted Margaret. Btw, your flat looks lovely.