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Less 09-11-2014 16:01

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1123191)
I dont wear one. Not for any person reasons other than I don't like pinning/sticking stuff to me, never have done.

That is your choice, isn't it good to be allowed one?

Restless 09-11-2014 16:28

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Putting money and not taking one is also a choice I make

US Angel 12-01-2015 15:19

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I have an enamel pin and this year I bought the 1914-2014 pin in the British store I eat at.

Accyexplorer 08-11-2015 19:55

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A interesting read,I fully understand where "Harry" is coming from.

This year, I will wear a poppy for the last time | Harry Leslie Smith | Comment is free | The Guardian

cashman 08-11-2015 20:07

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To be honest i will never understand some peoples reluctance to wear a poppy, they are a significance of "ALL" the people that fell and never came home, the conflict to me is irrelevant. its simply respecting those who fell.:confused:

accyman 08-11-2015 20:18

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I buy em in fact by the time its over i will have more than likely bought a few i just dont get round to sticking them on and when i do remember o stick on one they get lost throughout the day

sometimes i just put a quid in the collection pot or box

same way in which if i put something in a collection pot i say no thankyou to the sticker

its not a pride or shame of wearing one im simply clumbsy and forgetful

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2015 20:59

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This year I have bought four poppies....I have worn them for a couple of days and then they have dropped off my Jacket.......not that I am complaining.
I will NEVER give up wearing the poppy to signify my respect for those who did not come home to their families......because my dad did come home.
He was a changed man, but he came home.

Barrie Yates 09-11-2015 18:00

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I wear a red Poppy, I have done for as long as I can remember. I wear one in remembrance of all who have given their lives and to those who have had their lives irrevocably changed by injuries, both physical and mental, that they have endured. A few were friends who weren't as lucky as I.
I wear a Poppy in respect to all those who gave their all and to demonstrate my respect for the families of all those who have suffered through all the wars - the major conflicts and the brush fire wars. Nobody glorifies war, it is hateful, but respect the ones who served.
A question has been asked on how the Poppy should be worn - there is only one way. Wear it with pride.

Accyexplorer 10-11-2015 09:01

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Remembering the fallen etc is all well and good...Wether you wear one or not is irrelevant in my eyes,I mean,why should there be just be the one special day for remembering them,Perhaps we should wear poppies all year round as a sign we'll never forget them?

I wonder how many of those who fought in WW1 & WW2 would do so if they knew that what they was fighting for wasn't freedom and helping to keep folk safe but for elite greed and power.

accyman 10-11-2015 09:54

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1154353)
Remembering the fallen etc is all well and good...Wether you wear one or not is irrelevant in my eyes,I mean,why should there be just be the one special day for remembering them,Perhaps we should wear poppies all year round as a sign we'll never forget them?

I wonder how many of those who fought in WW1 & WW2 would do so if they knew that what they was fighting for wasn't freedom and helping to keep folk safe but for elite greed and power.

politicians love a good poppy day they get to show their respect....

want to know what government really thinks of the men and women they send to fight take a look at how they treat them when they come home

a soldier can go from hero to thieving lazy cripple sponger in a heartbeat

Margaret Pilkington 10-11-2015 10:08

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1154353)
Remembering the fallen etc is all well and good...Wether you wear one or not is irrelevant in my eyes,I mean,why should there be just be the one special day for remembering them,Perhaps we should wear poppies all year round as a sign we'll never forget them?

I wonder how many of those who fought in WW1 & WW2 would do so if they knew that what they was fighting for wasn't freedom and helping to keep folk safe but for elite greed and power.

Jason, the best thing you could do is bow out of this thread as you still do not get it.

The men who fought in those conflicts you mention were not given a choice. They were conscripted men.

If you are unsure of the impiications of this, then I suggest you look it up and find out what happened to those men who did not present themselves to the appropriate service centre at the required time.

These men did NOT fight because war was honourable...but because their country was, and it required this of them.
They fought for the freedoms we have today......now, from what you have written it appears that you cannot see this.......and I fear that it doesn't matter how many times it is explained, or how it is explained, you will not get it.......that is really sad because if you don't get it how can we expect the youngsters growing up to respect the sacrifices made by young men for their freedom?

Gremlin 10-11-2015 10:27

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They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

Im lucky to be allowed to grow old, the people we are remembering never got the chance.

cashman 10-11-2015 10:39

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1154363)
Jason, the best thing you could do is bow out of this thread as you still do not get it.

The men who fought in those conflicts you mention were not given a choice. They were conscripted men.

If you are unsure of the impiications of this, then I suggest you look it up and find out what happened to those men who did not present themselves to the appropriate service centre at the required time.

These men did NOT fight because war was honourable...but because their country was, and it required this of them.
They fought for the freedoms we have today......now, from what you have written it appears that you cannot see this.......and I fear that it doesn't matter how many times it is explained, or how it is explained, you will not get it.......that is really sad because if you don't get it how can we expect the youngsters growing up to respect the sacrifices made by young men for their freedom?

Yeh can't put sense where there is none margaret,:rolleyes:

Accyexplorer 10-11-2015 12:16

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1154360)
politicians love a good poppy day they get to show their respect....

want to know what government really thinks of the men and women they send to fight take a look at how they treat them when they come home

a soldier can go from hero to thieving lazy cripple sponger in a heartbeat

I have to agree,those who send folk to war on the back of lies don't give a flying about ex-service personnel once they are of no use....for that we have the British Legion to thank.

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1154363)
Jason, the best thing you could do is bow out of this thread as you still do not get it.

The men who fought in those conflicts you mention were not given a choice. They were conscripted men.

If you are unsure of the impiications of this, then I suggest you look it up and find out what happened to those men who did not present themselves to the appropriate service centre at the required time.

These men did NOT fight because war was honourable...but because their country was, and it required this of them.
They fought for the freedoms we have today......now, from what you have written it appears that you cannot see this.......and I fear that it doesn't matter how many times it is explained, or how it is explained, you will not get it.......that is really sad because if you don't get it how can we expect the youngsters growing up to respect the sacrifices made by young men for their freedom?

My point was that back in the day it wasn't as easy for folk to know the truth about war, there was no WWW,so folk relied heavily on the propaganda pumped by the MMS.Most folk who joined did so for what they thought were honourable reasons and I was just thinking how many of them would of took jail or whatever had they knew the truth about what they was fighting for...it may not seem that way but I'm on your side M......please don't take off your velvet glove :)

Your right,it's time for me to "bow out".....after a educational video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8

Margaret Pilkington 10-11-2015 14:07

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Propaganda.....the news service was not what it is now and many items related to the conflicts were not published as they were thought to be detrimental to the war effort or security.
As for the World wide web, there is much on the web that is skewed, biased or just plain rubbish.

I think you are wrong about the men of that era preferring jail to going out to fight.
There was an innate sense of pride for the country and a sense that such injustices as were forced on the world by the dictators could not be allowed to pass.
The men who fought did so for the freedoms which we enjoy.

War is never glorious, and there are no real victors...only survivors.
I am old enough to have been able to hear some of the stories told by the men who came back from the second world war.......my grandfather could not bear to talk about his experience in WW1.
No amount of 'educational videos' are going to persuade me of anything different........my judgement goes on my experience of those who were there and came back.....my family members. They were conscripted, but they did what they did because at the time it was the right thing to do.......they could not even know how the world would eventually turn out.
That is not to say their sacrifices were in vain, or that they should not e accorded the honours they earned.
I am glad that you are going to bow out of the thread.......you have added very little of any real use to it(and I say that with respect).


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